Originally posted by Dremac

 

 

Haha great.  Now I have something to link to when people ask me what a "fanboi" is.  Thanks!

But seriously, one little troll isn't going to scare anyone away from a game.  I'll still give this game a fair shot when it comes out like I would any other game.  And really, if you want to support this game do it a favor and stop posting about it, nobody wants to play with people like you who fling insults at anyone that isn't 100% in love with a game.  That's a not a "noob" that's a normal person.  Grow up.

Thanks for your time, but uh... yeah u shud leave the Aion forums now.. u have done neough Damage already.. LOL! 

Come on, all of you. Just drop it.

Originally posted by Dremac

I suppose, I know nothing about Darkfall.  And I agree, before beta there's no way to even have a good idea what the game will end up looking like when it's actually released, which is why I haven't voted on Aion.

Aye this game has very high chance to be a crap like Tabula rasa or Auto assault, so there is no point of hyping it. Should wait till release.

Originally posted by Noan

 

Originally posted by Dremac

I suppose, I know nothing about Darkfall.  And I agree, before beta there's no way to even have a good idea what the game will end up looking like when it's actually released, which is why I haven't voted on Aion.

 

Aye this game has very high chance to be a crap like Tabula rasa or Auto assault, so there is no point of hyping it. Should wait till release.

All previously released games from the development studio developing AION (not the same one as TR or AA) have been instant hits - even if this one gameplay-wise is going to be different.

Originally posted by Caladon

 

Originally posted by Noan

 

Originally posted by Dremac

I suppose, I know nothing about Darkfall.  And I agree, before beta there's no way to even have a good idea what the game will end up looking like when it's actually released, which is why I haven't voted on Aion.

 

Aye this game has very high chance to be a crap like Tabula rasa or Auto assault, so there is no point of hyping it. Should wait till release.

What is that based on? You have zero foundation for that. Besides, TR isn't crap. It's "okay".

 

All previously released games from the development studio developing AION (not the same one as TR or AA) have been instant hits - even if this one gameplay-wise is going to be different.

 

Foundation is: Auto assault was a crap and now it's closed. Tr is boring and ppl give up on this game already. Gw is played because it's almost free(no monthy fee).

Heh, another WAR maniac..

Well just go back to your WAR forum will ya?

Originally posted by Noan

 

Originally posted by Caladon

 

Originally posted by Noan

 

Originally posted by Dremac

I suppose, I know nothing about Darkfall.  And I agree, before beta there's no way to even have a good idea what the game will end up looking like when it's actually released, which is why I haven't voted on Aion.

 

Aye this game has very high chance to be a crap like Tabula rasa or Auto assault, so there is no point of hyping it. Should wait till release.

What is that based on? You have zero foundation for that. Besides, TR isn't crap. It's "okay".

 

All previously released games from the development studio developing AION (not the same one as TR or AA) have been instant hits - even if this one gameplay-wise is going to be different.

 

 

Foundation is: Auto assault was a crap and now it's closed. Tr is boring and ppl give up on this game already. Gw is played because it's almost free(no monthy fee).

.............

Okay.. i don't want to be really mean...

So you were talking bout Foundation...

Ok..

Auto Assault, developed by Net Devil and.... published by NCsoft.

(RG) Tabula Rasa, developed by Destination Game (Austin) and... published by NCsoft.

Aion: Tower of Eternity, developed by NCsoft SEOUL and published by  NCsoft

so.. what does your so called  "foundation" is talking about?

Maybe the game doesn't interested you.? Ok.. maybe.. fine.. just let it be.. 

so...Why do you even bother to start a post that you think it has a highly chance to be a crap?

Looks like Aion has jumped a few spots in the hype meter. Good! Hopefully they will release a good amount of info at TGS.

they're not going to tokyo this year, dont think they did last year either (i read it on aionsource). That show is mostly about console games anyway.

Why do you care about Hype so much? If this game will be good a lot of people will come to play it.

Can't really get importance of hype at all.

I think a person enjoys that a game he follows has a high hype for the following reasons:

* It helps showing you're right when you speak only good of the game, as others are likely to do so aswell.

* It's a ridiculous part of the ever-going "which game is better?" feud, even though it doesnt indicate anything worth noticing.

* It shows that others are following and anticipating the game too.

* It shows that other people have seen the good things about the game.

* It could help the developers realize "heck, we must be doing something right".

...and probably many more reasons.

The flaw is that it's not really representative of anything except for this little community's fanboism's current focus. :) I could care less however, as i keep coming back.

Originally posted by Caladon

I think a person enjoys that a game he follows has a high hype for the following reasons:

* It helps showing you're right when you speak only good of the game, as others are likely to do so aswell.

* It's a ridiculous part of the ever-going "which game is better?" feud, even though it doesnt indicate anything worth noticing.

* It shows that others are following and anticipating the game too.

* It shows that other people have seen the good things about the game.

* It could help the developers realize "heck, we must be doing something right".

...and probably many more reasons.

The flaw is that it's not really representative of anything except for this little community's fanboism's current focus. :) I could care less however, as i keep coming back.

 

"heck, we must be doing something right" - I hope koreans think something like that sometimes rather then "farm? farm? farm, farm, farm!, farm!".

You know, all of those rating are nothing. Why? Because EQ2 has high ratings if you look at the "good" game ratings. I hate everything about EQ2, I played this game for a 2 monthes in the beginning and another 2 few times ago with all addons and I really hate this game, it annoys me very much.

Other ppl like this game. That's why all of those ratings mean nothing for me.

If you want to find a good game, don't listen to others and check it by yourself to be sure for 100%.

Originally posted by Noan

"heck, we must be doing something right" - I hope koreans think something like that sometimes rather then "farm? farm? farm, farm, farm!, farm!".

... and this is me leaving this dicussion.

Originally posted by Caladon

Originally posted by Noan

"heck, we must be doing something right" - I hope koreans think something like that sometimes rather then "farm? farm? farm, farm, farm!, farm!".

... and this is me leaving this dicussion.

It's very, very hard to believe that koreans can make a good game. RF Online had my hopes to be a good one and then failed, ArchLord did the same, LA2 too, then Cabal. They failed too many times.

Originally posted by Noan

 

Originally posted by Caladon

Originally posted by Noan

"heck, we must be doing something right" - I hope koreans think something like that sometimes rather then "farm? farm? farm, farm, farm!, farm!".

... and this is me leaving this dicussion.

 

It's very, very hard to believe that koreans can make a good game. RF Online had my hopes to be a good one and then failed, ArchLord did the same, LA2 too, then Cabal. They failed too many times.

The only thing that is important here is that Aion is developed also for a western, casual audience, whereas the most (I would believe all) of the ones you mentioned above were not. The developers have stated time after time how they have been made aware of modern players' demands on content, story and depth in games. Because RF Online was a shallow "cookie cutter" grinder, doesn't mean Aion will be. Just as Dark & Light which was a buggy horror from hell doesn't mean Age of Conan will be. Perpetual made the not-very-successful DDO, but returned with LOTRO. Despite of what we think of the individual cases presented by me here, generalization is bad. So let's refrain from it. I hope we're better than that.

And as always, "good" is subjective.

Originally posted by Noan

 

Originally posted by Caladon

Originally posted by Noan

"heck, we must be doing something right" - I hope koreans think something like that sometimes rather then "farm? farm? farm, farm, farm!, farm!".

... and this is me leaving this dicussion.

 

It's very, very hard to believe that koreans can make a game I like. RF Online had my hopes to be a good one and then failed, ArchLord did the same, LA2 too, then Cabal. They failed too many times.

2: There are over 100 (possibly 200) Korean MMO's. You're judging all of them based on those few games...?

Originally posted by Gameloading

 

Originally posted by Noan

 

Originally posted by Caladon

Originally posted by Noan

"heck, we must be doing something right" - I hope koreans think something like that sometimes rather then "farm? farm? farm, farm, farm!, farm!".

... and this is me leaving this dicussion.

 

It's very, very hard to believe that koreans can make a game I like. RF Online had my hopes to be a good one and then failed, ArchLord did the same, LA2 too, then Cabal. They failed too many times.

1: Fixed it for you

 

2: There are over 100 (possibly 200) Korean MMO's. You're judging all of them based on those few games...?

1: Thanks. Always thought I was saying for myself.

2: You suggest me to try all of 100 or possibly 200 korean MMOs & learn Korean language?

edit: Caladon: Sure, western guys failed a lot too but they had some success. Imo Koreans didn't have any success at all.

Originally posted by Noan

 

Originally posted by Gameloading

 

Originally posted by Noan

 

Originally posted by Caladon

Originally posted by Noan

"heck, we must be doing something right" - I hope koreans think something like that sometimes rather then "farm? farm? farm, farm, farm!, farm!".

... and this is me leaving this dicussion.

 

It's very, very hard to believe that koreans can make a game I like. RF Online had my hopes to be a good one and then failed, ArchLord did the same, LA2 too, then Cabal. They failed too many times.

1: Fixed it for you

 

2: There are over 100 (possibly 200) Korean MMO's. You're judging all of them based on those few games...?

1: Thanks. Always thought I was saying for myself.

 

2: You suggest me to try all of 100 or possibly 200 korean MMOs & learn Korean language?

 

edit: Caladon: Sure, western guys failed a lot too but they had some success. Imo Koreans didn't have any success at all.

About success well if you're talking about quality then that is your opinion and you're entitled to it, but if based on profit and success, then that is just plain wrong. The korean MMO market is much larger and advanced than the western MMO market. MMORPG's are the most important genre in korea, sort of like what First Person Shooters are in the west. There are several korean MMO's that made it past 1 million subscribers. There has only been 1 western MMORPG that ever made it past 1 million subscribers (WoW ofcourse)

Originally posted by Gameloading

 

Originally posted by Noan

 

Originally posted by Gameloading

 

Originally posted by Noan

 

Originally posted by Caladon

Originally posted by Noan

"heck, we must be doing something right" - I hope koreans think something like that sometimes rather then "farm? farm? farm, farm, farm!, farm!".

... and this is me leaving this dicussion.

 

It's very, very hard to believe that koreans can make a game I like. RF Online had my hopes to be a good one and then failed, ArchLord did the same, LA2 too, then Cabal. They failed too many times.

1: Fixed it for you

 

2: There are over 100 (possibly 200) Korean MMO's. You're judging all of them based on those few games...?

1: Thanks. Always thought I was saying for myself.

 

2: You suggest me to try all of 100 or possibly 200 korean MMOs & learn Korean language?

 

edit: Caladon: Sure, western guys failed a lot too but they had some success. Imo Koreans didn't have any success at all.

If you want to have fair judgement of the entire korean market then yes, I suggest trying them all. Basing your opinion of  hundreds of games when you played (possibly) less than 1% of them is a bit silly.

 

About success well if you're talking about quality then that is your opinion and you're entitled to it, but if based on profit and success, then that is just plain wrong. The korean MMO market is much larger and advanced than the western MMO market. MMORPG's are the most important genre in korea, sort of like what First Person Shooters are in the west. There are several korean MMO's that made it past 1 million subscribers. There has only been 1 western MMORPG that ever made it past 1 million subscribers (WoW ofcourse)

Good post!

Now I know one thing for sure, my brain works in different way then korean's, if they have MMOs that look close to RF, ArchLord and others.

Also I can't try to play other korean MMOs because they block IPs. Was unable to play RF, they blocked my IP by saing I'm not in korea or something untill I solved it. The thing is I judge by games I'm allowed to play.

Some of those videos remind me of final fantasy.