The similarities, looks wise, are just a tad too close don't you think ?  I am not hater of WoW, but I am a huge hater of Blizzards inability to do anything remotly original.  Anyone agree ? Anyone at all ? :P Could also say it looks like the Witch King Witch Lich :P

Make your judgment people. Yes I see the similarities, but I also see quite a difference. Up to your personal opinion and judgment.

Tolkien stole his idea of the Lord of the Rings from Blizzard's WoW, you didn't know?

Originally posted by Airspell

  The similarities, looks wise, are just a tad too close don't you think ?  I am not hater of WoW, but I am a huge hater of Blizzards inability to do anything remotly original.  Anyone agree ? Anyone at all ? :P Could also say it looks like the Witch King Witch Lich :P

All floozles look more or less alike to me.. .(see if any remembers that word)

oh noes, now i'm gonna have to quit wow cuz things are similar to other things....honestly i really don't care, you must be bored tho to even bother with this.

  As I said I don't hate WoW.  Just kinda rubs me the wrong way when I see Blizzard stealing left and right for the past 13 years.  Yes their games are great, but something needs to be said about the things they may be doing wrong.  From the beginning they have seen it is more profitable to steal and pay off the lawsuits later instead of actually think up something themselves. Obviously most people do not care.

well you call it stealing i would need more proof they are stealing anything,  i have seen alot of evil armored character types with a similar look,  unless someone has actual proof of stealing then i don't see it,  are ideas borrowed probably is that stealing not sure it is...everyone nowadays seems to borrow from everyone else, if your mad at blizzard for so called stealing then you need to be mad at every other game that has borrowed from tolkien.

I don't care if they copied.  I love the WoW lore... then again i don't really know much about LOTR.  I went to see the first movie and fell asleep in the theatre.  After that I lost interest in the others.  I was going to read the books, but everyone said "if you thought the movie was boring you won't like the books."  I'll check out the movies again one day.  If Blizzard was (obviously) inspired by LOTR, that's cool... as long as they didn't take LOTR and say they made it.

Almost all fantasy of a certain type can be traced back to Tolkien, who surely was influenced himself by several things.  Let's face it, Blizzard didn't invent orcs and elves, nor did EQ, nor did D & D, nor did Tolkein.

Anyway I was thinking it's more like the Witch King of Angmar.

Even so, I don't think the fact that there are similarities will affect many people's playing.

Originally posted by bleyzwun

I don't care if they copied.  I love the WoW lore... then again i don't really know much about LOTR.  I went to see the first movie and fell asleep in the theatre.  After that I lost interest in the others.  I was going to read the books, but everyone said "if you thought the movie was boring you won't like the books."  I'll check out the movies again one day.  If Blizzard was (obviously) inspired by LOTR, that's cool... as long as they didn't take LOTR and say they made it.

  If you think Blizzard is just inspired by things than you obviously don't know about the multitude of lawsuits they had to settle :>

Ignorance is bliss, and that seems to hold for millions of WoW fans who rather believe their game is the first mmo ever and 100% original :P 

As long as the game is fun doesn't work for me as it works for others.  If I was a fanboi of something and I found out it was just a copy of other things it would take my respect for the company down a notch.  I'm wierd like that.

Sauron is nothing compared toe hLich King.  The Lich King is entirely original..WTF are you talking about?  Name me one game with a Lich King like the one that's going to be in wow.

Also, no offense but I consider wow more orginal than lotr. Lotr was a synergy of christianity and traditional folk mythology.  I can't stand noobs who read lotr and then its the be all end of all of all fantasy.  IT's not, its a book written by a christian man that symbolises the wars going on during that time, or that's what he said he wrote it about. 

Yes he borrows from folklore like all tehse games too and before tolkien people were telling stores along the same lines.  The imagination will do this, and always has, since the begining of man.  Stop reducing schemas over things an dstart learning that trolling is rediculous in nature and aw aste of your own time.

Well this is just blizzard's style when creating video games. They don't even try to hide it most of the time when they copy and make things their own. A lot of the blizzard games wouldn't be what they are if they didn't take from other stories. Although Diablo, Lost Vikings, and Blackthorne are pretty original games made by blizzard (Correct me if I'm wrong).

Actually Lich King is strangely similar to Nagash, the Lich King of Warhammer.

But as someone once said "There is nothing new under the sun"

Originally posted by Airspell

 

Originally posted by bleyzwun

I don't care if they copied.  I love the WoW lore... then again i don't really know much about LOTR.  I went to see the first movie and fell asleep in the theatre.  After that I lost interest in the others.  I was going to read the books, but everyone said "if you thought the movie was boring you won't like the books."  I'll check out the movies again one day.  If Blizzard was (obviously) inspired by LOTR, that's cool... as long as they didn't take LOTR and say they made it.

Well Blizzard does more than be inspired, there is also the copyright aspect of many things they ripped off.  I kinda find it funny how you like the WoW lore, which is just a generic mumble jumble of the past, including LOTR as can be seen with this Lich King business, over LOTR which you found boring for some reason. 

 

  If you think Blizzard is just inspired by things than you obviously don't know about the multitude of lawsuits they had to settle :>

Ignorance is bliss, and that seems to hold for millions of WoW fans who rather believe their game is the first mmo ever and 100% original :P 

As long as the game is fun doesn't work for me as it works for others.  If I was a fanboi of something and I found out it was just a copy of other things it would take my respect for the company down a notch.  I'm wierd like that.

no one is claiming wow is original, and stop talking in black and white. No one is going "OMG WOW WAS THE FIRST EVER!"(cept for maybe ignorant 10 year old, but they havnt been around long enough to know any better)

And who cares honestly, if the game is fun, its fun. I will admit i do like Warcraft lore(not recently though, aka WOW lore) and while i would love to move on from wow, not a damn good MMO has come out yet(im banking on AOC)

i would like to add one more thing, remember what wow was aiming for, trying to take all the ideas and make the best they can out of them, rather then make new ones, very conservative move, but it worked.

Lotr has a villain

Warcraft has a villain.

Omg, copied!

Do you know bowser? yeah well he is a sauron clone too.

Originally posted by StevenTheRoc

Sauron is nothing compared toe hLich King.  The Lich King is entirely original..WTF are you talking about?  Name me one game with a Lich King like the one that's going to be in wow.

 

Also, no offense but I consider wow more orginal than lotr. Lotr was a synergy of christianity and traditional folk mythology.  I can't stand noobs who read lotr and then its the be all end of all of all fantasy.  IT's not, its a book written by a christian man that symbolises the wars going on during that time, or that's what he said he wrote it about. 

 

Yes he borrows from folklore like all tehse games too and before tolkien people were telling stores along the same lines.  The imagination will do this, and always has, since the begining of man.  Stop reducing schemas over things an dstart learning that trolling is rediculous in nature and aw aste of your own time.

Now as to the Lich King, people compare it to Sauron and they are way out of line on that too.  Read the history of Sauron and the lore behind the Lich King and you will see totally differing backgrounds and there is totally ZERO similarity between the two.

People should learn to hold their opinions before they even check them out, else they look like idiots to the world. Albeit, an anonymous world of the internet and the ego-boosting monickers most use for nicknames.

Originally posted by rshandlon

 

Originally posted by StevenTheRoc

Sauron is nothing compared toe hLich King.  The Lich King is entirely original..WTF are you talking about?  Name me one game with a Lich King like the one that's going to be in wow.

 

Also, no offense but I consider wow more orginal than lotr. Lotr was a synergy of christianity and traditional folk mythology.  I can't stand noobs who read lotr and then its the be all end of all of all fantasy.  IT's not, its a book written by a christian man that symbolises the wars going on during that time, or that's what he said he wrote it about. 

 

Yes he borrows from folklore like all tehse games too and before tolkien people were telling stores along the same lines.  The imagination will do this, and always has, since the begining of man.  Stop reducing schemas over things an dstart learning that trolling is rediculous in nature and aw aste of your own time.

I don't know how old you are and how old you think LoTR is, but you are so far off base about its originality than I have ever seen.  Tolkien and his world were THE ORIGINAL fantasy style.  He created the whole world and history to create a mythology for the English, as that was one thing that was missing compared to all the other old world countries.  There were alot of analogies of The Hobbit and the times, but most of the similarities of LoTR and the Great War were that, just similarities due to the fact of the world he lived in. He wrote so much detail and history for the world of Middle Earth that no one has ever come close to it since.

 

Now as to the Lich King, people compare it to Sauron and they are way out of line on that too.  Read the history of Sauron and the lore behind the Lich King and you will see totally differing backgrounds and there is totally ZERO similarity between the two.

 

People should learn to hold their opinions before they even check them out, else they look like idiots to the world. Albeit, an anonymous world of the internet and the ego-boosting monickers most use for nicknames.

Tolkien's world is iluvatar, the god that created the world. but he did not do it alone, he created the valar to help him with their song.

The best of the valar, Melkor, goes haywire and decide to go on his own, he is cast from the heavens on the earth and scores of his followers go with him.

Now you tell me you do not see the similarity between this story and the christian mythos of satan? Cause I see it.

Tolkien took inspiration from many many things, including folklore and christian legends.

Does this means lord of the rings is some derivative crap? hell no, it is one of the best fantasy story ever written.

Warhammer lore takes a lot from historical facts and Michael morcock eternal champion series. Does that makes it derivative crap? hell no, it is a great intriguing and immersive world.

Warcraft lore takes a lot from warhammer and other fantasy sources, including the lord of the rings for sure (hard to find ANY western fantasy that did not take inspiration from it), does this means it is derivative crap? once again, hell no. warcraft might not be the best fantasy around, but it more than decent.

as for lich king = sauron... ? what? maybe there is some physical similarities between the helmet design of the MOVIE and the lich king of warcraft... as for actual similarities between sauron of the books and arthas.... nope... none... zero.. zilch.

Sauron is a maia, a spiritual energetic being, never had been a human nor a corrupted one at that... not to mention fusing with an orc shaman.... no... way.

Originally posted by Airspell

  As I said I don't hate WoW.  Just kinda rubs me the wrong way when I see Blizzard stealing left and right for the past 13 years.  Yes their games are great, but something needs to be said about the things they may be doing wrong.  From the beginning they have seen it is more profitable to steal and pay off the lawsuits later instead of actually think up something themselves. Obviously most people do not care.

there games were great.  where will they go now that the blizzard north team has all left?  oh yeah, starcraft 2, that's the future of blizz games.