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Fugnudz
Novice Member
Joined: 11/22/06
MMORPG designs will never be successful while MMORPG designers are unsuccessful. |
Really like that space game. Was smooth gameplay, no rush, lots of exploring, a chance to ship goods as an intergalactic truck driver. And then the game died down. Guess players flocked away to try SWG's NGE or something. What is out there that comes close to Earth and Beyond? What is coming out that might be close? Please, serious replies only.
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8/07/07 3:33:39 PM#2
I really miss E&B as well. I don't know of any other game that compares, but there is a group of people working on an emulator for it. I've been following it's progress for some time now. If you want to check it out, go here: Take care, Meg |
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8/07/07 3:37:06 PM#3
Perhaps Jumpgate: Evolution will cut it? ---- |
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BaronJuJu
Novice Member
Joined: 2/27/04
"Just because it happens to you doesn''t make it interesting" |
8/07/07 3:48:06 PM#4
Might try EVE as well. I know they were sending out invitations to E&B players when the game was shutting down.
Boy do I miss that game. "If we don't attack them, they will attack us first. So we'd better retaliate before they have a chance to strike" |
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8/07/07 4:02:09 PM#5
Jumpgate is interesting but with the open PvP and Newtonian Flight model it doesn't compare to EnB, it does have an appeal though. The current community is a very small and tight knit bunch a large influx of subscribers would ruin that though. I'll go back and see what the revamp does for it. |
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8/07/07 4:15:40 PM#6
I played E&B from launch but left after 3 months to play Jumpgate. It was a great game and I loved every minute of it. However the complete lack of any sort of PvP made me leave since I maxed out my levels. Jumpgate kept me going until EVE came out. 3.5 years later I am still playing EVE as there is a complete lack of any other game out there that could challenge it like E&B. I personally believe the lack of PvP in E&B was its downfall. I knew several guildies who left because they maxed out like me and well....whats the point of playing after that? There are a few options coming out. Jumpgate (revamped), Infinity and I saw some developers working on a Jumpgate copy but looks more specky. Even though I loved E&B games like jumpgate (albeit small population now) and EVE have been going strong for 4 years plus and this is due to PvP. Even if you are not into fighting its still an adrenalin rush running trade and outsmarting griefers / pirates. Whats the point of having the biggest guns in the world if you can only shoot NPC's? Even so if E&B was relaunched I would play still......then probably leave again once maxing.
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8/07/07 6:09:01 PM#7
Has anyone tried DarkSpace? It may not be the biggest game out there, but it is unique, although I am admittedly biased in this regard being a voluntary member of the development team. Try it... |
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8/07/07 6:49:33 PM#8
I thought about Eve after E&B died, but I didn't like the idea of PvP. Lately I thought about Eve again and if anything the PVP is worse and the game is very ruthless. E&B was a game where I could relax and mine for hours. It was very zen like and I didn't have to worry. In a PvP environment, I'd always have to worry about gankers, grievers, and even other players. No thanks! Give me a space game where I can leave my ship and relax. |
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8/08/07 12:53:55 AM#9
Though it's not 3D like EnB was, www.pardus.at is a fun browser based space game based on action points rather than playing for 24 hours a day. I too had a lot of fun with EnB, but haven't found any 3D space game yet that I have liked. I would think if someone did a space setting not like Eve or SWG, it would make for a great MMORPG. MMORPGs are virtual skinner boxes. http://www.nickyee.com/eqt/skinner.html |
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8/08/07 3:24:02 PM#10
Alverant, Not sure how much you know about EVE's PvP system. I have been playing for almost 4 years and I have been destroyed by another player only twice and I have killed only 1 other player in that time. The reason for this is the whole universe has a security rating system. 1.0 - .00 Any system with .5 - 1.0 is basically safe and is guarded by NPC security. If any player shoots you then a whole lot of pain is inflicted on them. So basically as a miner / builder I tend to do a lot of afk mining and the worst thing you can expect is some crappy npc frigates attacking. EVE represents the real world in some ways. For example if you live in London (safe space) you will see probably 1 murder a week but you would get hunted like a dog by police. However if you live in Iraq there would be 60+ deaths a day (unsafe space) with little or no protection at all. Funny enough its normally fighting over rare resources... The best thing about EVE is that i still can do some heavy combat missions in safe space. So really it depends what path you wish to take. Besides even in unsafe space you can pretty much get around without dying. You can warp directly to a gate then jump instantly which has killed off the campers. Combat is there for corporations that are fighting on remote resource rich territory. Its up to you if you want to get involved. Safe space is about 10 times bigger than all of E&B ever had so you hardly get cramped either. Hope this has changed your idea of PvP in Eve slightly :)
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8/08/07 3:27:22 PM#11
Originally posted by Fugnudz And what exactly is that? "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." |
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8/08/07 3:34:10 PM#12
Seriously Earth and Beyond had massive potential and was pretty fun! Yeah everyone left for SWG, and look at that now!
I know of nothing like Earth and Beyond comming out, or out. Some might say Eve, I don't see it. Sic Luceat Lux |
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8/08/07 3:39:38 PM#13
I really do miss EnB. It was such a fun game. I hate EA for shutting it down.
On the bright side, the Emulator does actually look like it's coming along. |
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8/08/07 3:41:20 PM#14
Originally posted by Spalliero Out of curiosity why is this so? "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." |
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8/08/07 4:00:42 PM#15
When I played Earth and Beyond it was mostly questing, akin to say EQ in space (insert echo here). Eve is more economy, and goods allocation imho.
I am by no means an expert on Eve, but I've played it to an extent. That was my experience. Sic Luceat Lux |
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8/09/07 3:21:36 AM#16
there is no doubt that lot of eve is the economy and PvP. However if you stick to high sec space then you can mine in relative safety as the reward from ganking a miner hoes not outweigh the reward, your main problem would be ore thieves for which there are work arounds. There is questing, but it is not hugely eveolved, the introduction of lvl 5 (implinented) and 6 (comming) missions are centered around the need for gangs to form up (no more sloloing) and they are all in low sec space, putting more players into non-consentual PvP. Meaning a drive for more people working together and sharing intel and forming security teams to defend against piratical players.
not for everyone i am sure, but i like it. |
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8/09/07 3:29:09 AM#17
EvE Online. I'm also an ex-E&B player and EvE is the closest thing to it (And quite enjoyable). "Skill has not cool downed!" |
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8/25/07 10:36:54 PM#18
I beta'd Eve and played for about 6 months after launch (admittedly, haven't been back since). The only thing Eve and EnB have in common is that they both take place in space. That's it. A game where you can advance your toon by not playing made me giggle. |
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8/26/07 1:40:43 PM#19
Stop talking about Eve you are making em want to resub lol
EnB was awesome I hope the emulator works out and becomes what we all loved. The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not represent the views of <Insert Website Here ;) >, its associates, or affiliates. |
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8/26/07 1:44:01 PM#20
I miss e&b severly, eve imo is nothing like enb, it is a totally different space mmo, i do hope jumpgate evolutions will be close, I would really like too see an earth and beyond 2, lets all write ea-games and suggest that. playing eq2 and two worlds |
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