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  Stradden

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OP  7/27/07 3:29:17 PM#1

A while back, MMORPG.com ran the first part of an interview with Mark Davis and Steve Perlins from EA Mythic. Yesterday, MMORPG.com presented you with an overview of your first few hours as a Dwarf. Today, we bring you the conclusion of the interview where Mark brings us up to speed on the first few starting hours in the life of a Greenskin.

"When we first got into this... revising these areas, we were largely happy with the Greenskin area. But, after we had really put our resources into re-doing the Dwarf area and re-imagining that whole place, we looked at the Greenskin area and weren't that happy anymore. We though 'ya know, we can do Greenskins better."

Personally, I like the idea of developers overhauling something they don't think is quite as good as it could be. In today's MMO world, there are too often complaints that games are rushed to market without being completed, let alone polished and re-tooled.

Read the whole article here.

Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com

  Dregard44

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7/27/07 3:49:32 PM#2

Sounds like fun to me!

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  Darkz0r

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7/27/07 7:59:41 PM#3

Damn, it does sounds awesome.

Let's hope it is !

  Sathir

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Waaaaaagh!

7/27/07 8:01:37 PM#4

Originally posted by Darkz0r

Damn, it does sounds awesome.

Let's hope it is !

I'm sure it will be

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  moostown

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7/27/07 8:48:18 PM#5

Is it just me or does the game look lifeless and lacks the atmosphere that games like WOW have?

  lordsn0w

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7/27/07 9:15:15 PM#6
Originally posted by moostown

Is it just me or does the game look lifeless and lacks the atmosphere that games like WOW have?


How do you see it as lifeless and what do you mean by atmosphere? ( not trying to fight, just want some clarification) although remember that it is still in early dev.

  Vegetta

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7/27/07 9:15:18 PM#7


Originally posted by moostown
Is it just me or does the game look lifeless and lacks the atmosphere that games like WOW have?


Yeah...it's just you


  sai_borg_yaj

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Joined: 7/11/07
Posts: 9

7/27/07 9:31:13 PM#8

Well, I understand that the game is in early beta... but this area of the game doesn't sway me very much.  I mean I appreciate the art that is involved to creating the area, but it nothing exciting.

  treefitty

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Joined: 7/18/07
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7/27/07 10:15:33 PM#9

Wonder if the Devs read these forums? If they do:

 

Please! Make the Greenskin side and the Dwarf side equally enjoyable.

WOW COMPARISON ALERT!!!!!!!

Alliance cities were very detailed and had alot more to them that Horde Cities. (IMO)

Alliance questlines and starting areas had more depth to them. (IMO)

I played both sides and was shocked to see the lack of thought towards horde compared to alliance side. (IMO)

WOW COMPARISON OVER!!!!!!!!

Disclaimer: In know way do I want to compare the game to WoW, but I wanted to throw this in so they don't make the same mistake I think blizzard made.  I look forward to WAR because its an original game.

  Romse

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7/27/07 10:46:19 PM#10

Right now I like the Greenskin characters and zone better... better than what we saw in the previous part of the interview where they displayed screens from the Dwarf starter zone...

On the Dwarf side everything is very blocky and they don't look at all like they concept art... the Dwarf concept art is truely amazing... some of the best I've seen ever. Then they go ahead and pull out octogonal tubes that are supposed to be cannons?...

The dwarf faces look like they're painted on a flat surface.

I hope the screens we saw were prior to the revamp... not after... otherwise they need to put even more work into it.

One thing I realized when looing at the orc area however is that they could use some visual effect for objects in a distance... a light fog... something that makes objects further away appear whiter... this way when you look at a scene like a forest or mountains... everything doesnt just appear to be the same color and texture... that has a cheap feel to it ...with a fog effect you can make things out from one another better... it's a simple effect that adds a lot of depth.

...They need some of that pretty much everywhere I think. In the dwarf area it would add perspective to the enormous statues... it's something you barely detect consciously... but if you stand next to a 100 meter statue... the top of it would be a little faded into fog... meaning a little whiter and less detailed... than the enormous feet next to which you'd be standing.

They sort of have a distance effect where you just stop seeing things in the horizon... but I'm talking about objects in the field of view...
In these swamp pics... everything seems to be the exact same color... like a big green filter... or a big brown filter in other parts... maybe they should hire someone who's got cinematography experience... like especially someone who's dealt with setting colors in port-production movie making...

  arkanev

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7/27/07 11:38:49 PM#11

Originally posted by treefitty

Wonder if the Devs read these forums? If they do:

 

Please! Make the Greenskin side and the Dwarf side equally enjoyable.

WOW COMPARISON ALERT!!!!!!!

Alliance cities were very detailed and had alot more to them that Horde Cities. (IMO)

Alliance questlines and starting areas had more depth to them. (IMO)

I played both sides and was shocked to see the lack of thought towards horde compared to alliance side. (IMO)

WOW COMPARISON OVER!!!!!!!!

Disclaimer: In know way do I want to compare the game to WoW, but I wanted to throw this in so they don't make the same mistake I think blizzard made.  I look forward to WAR because its an original game.


People who tend to compare can never create.. they just try improve. And IMO I heard enough about WoW so stop taking it as a reference. WoW is only an easy step-in MMORPG. Otherwise is not that deep or fun.

So please stop comparing to WoW.

  arkanev

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7/27/07 11:42:54 PM#12

Originally posted by moostown

Is it just me or does the game look lifeless and lacks the atmosphere that games like WOW have?

No I think the problem is that most people knew the Warcraft Lore before they jumped into WoW.

When it come to Warhammer, many people don't know the HUGE amount of lore there is in WH.

I think the "atmosphere" you talk about is knowing what happened.Cause WoW never got any pressure or stress or Atmosphere ingame (check AQ opening, no consequences to open it or not)

 

And again please stop comparing to WoW, if you still need to compare it to WoW why don't you simply keep playing it?

 

 

  ormstunga

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7/28/07 5:58:31 AM#13
Originally posted by Romse

Right now I like the Greenskin characters and zone better... better than what we saw in the previous part of the interview where they displayed screens from the Dwarf starter zone...

On the Dwarf side everything is very blocky and they don't look at all like they concept art... the Dwarf concept art is truely amazing... some of the best I've seen ever. Then they go ahead and pull out octogonal tubes that are supposed to be cannons?...

The dwarf faces look like they're painted on a flat surface.

I hope the screens we saw were prior to the revamp... not after... otherwise they need to put even more work into it.

One thing I realized when looing at the orc area however is that they could use some visual effect for objects in a distance... a light fog... something that makes objects further away appear whiter... this way when you look at a scene like a forest or mountains... everything doesnt just appear to be the same color and texture... that has a cheap feel to it ...with a fog effect you can make things out from one another better... it's a simple effect that adds a lot of depth.

...They need some of that pretty much everywhere I think. In the dwarf area it would add perspective to the enormous statues... it's something you barely detect consciously... but if you stand next to a 100 meter statue... the top of it would be a little faded into fog... meaning a little whiter and less detailed... than the enormous feet next to which you'd be standing.

They sort of have a distance effect where you just stop seeing things in the horizon... but I'm talking about objects in the field of view...
In these swamp pics... everything seems to be the exact same color... like a big green filter... or a big brown filter in other parts... maybe they should hire someone who's got cinematography experience... like especially someone who's dealt with setting colors in port-production movie making...


I think gameplay is what will determine if ppl will stay with this or not, but thx anyways for your insight 

  aqee

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7/28/07 8:47:31 AM#14


Originally posted by moostown
Is it just me or does the game look lifeless and lacks the atmosphere that games like WOW have?


Originally posted by Romse

On the Dwarf side everything is very blocky

The dwarf faces look like they're painted on a flat surface.



They haven't added any lightning effects. Everything is just basic graphic, with lightning engine on you see will see shadows and things look more alive.

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  Airspell

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7/28/07 9:20:38 AM#15

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

 

P.S. They really nailed the Warhammer Orc look in this game, really pleased with it.

  MuffinManXIV

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7/28/07 4:07:31 PM#16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l27xKDCV2S0

 

I really hope they do some polishing with these public quests...  The way the developers present the game makes me really want to get in there and start playing.  The way the video presents the game, the two public quests they have been going on and on about how awesome they are, looks very dull, lifeless, and boring.  Is it just me?

  neosurfeur

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7/28/07 8:03:32 PM#17

I understand you this vidéo :you post its very very very  ugly...

 

( this vidéo im talking about : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l27xKDCV2S0 )

  siresper

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7/28/07 8:06:27 PM#18

I liked the Dwarf Starting Area part better. It seemed to be far more detailed and interesting.

But maybe I'm just biased cause I planned to play Order primarily.

Still good though. And its always great because mythic has been so open about sharing information. They are confident about what they have and it shows.

  Flummoxed

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7/28/07 9:04:43 PM#19

Originally posted by MuffinManXIV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l27xKDCV2S0

 The way the video presents the game, ... looks very dull, lifeless, and boring. 


Probably because it doesn't convey the sense you get when you're actually IN the game yourself, frantically running around yelling and fighting like a madman, trying to coordinate your actions with the other players.

  moostown

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7/29/07 3:49:39 AM#20

Originally posted by arkanev

 

Originally posted by moostown

Is it just me or does the game look lifeless and lacks the atmosphere that games like WOW have?

 

No I think the problem is that most people knew the Warcraft Lore before they jumped into WoW.

When it come to Warhammer, many people don't know the HUGE amount of lore there is in WH.

I think the "atmosphere" you talk about is knowing what happened.Cause WoW never got any pressure or stress or Atmosphere ingame (check AQ opening, no consequences to open it or not)

 

And again please stop comparing to WoW, if you still need to compare it to WoW why don't you simply keep playing it?

 

 

I can compare it to WOW if i want :S I'm making a point and WOW is the obvious choice to use seeing as it has atmosphere.

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