World of Warcraft

I noticed that World of Warcraft isn't on the top mmo's list for this site... I find that pretty funny.... It seems that the "underground" RPG fans HATE wow with a passion.  The hardcore EQ boys and girls... the Hardcore D&D fans...

I guess the point of this post is to ask, why so much hate.  Sure some don't like it... thats fine.  But the fact that it has the most active accounts and players EVER for an MMO and the fact that it brought the whole MMORPG idea to mainstream gaming....

I will agree or say one thing... I think WoW helped to KILL the quality of mmo's these days.  No one has the money or funding to produce something as "grand" as blizzard has.  So everything looks cheap and clunky when compared

I bet most WoW players have never heard of this site...

Well WoW is getting less fun for most players. The game is just getting a bit too boring for people. The graphics are indeed Cartoony but they are still good. Now don't get me wrong, WoW is great, It's just not the type of game for everyone.

it may have the most players, but it is far from being the best MMO, or the worst. Regardless of its size i consider it more of a balanced mmo, held back by the things that make it WoW.

I think it is because most of the people who post on this site are not the main stream crowd. I could be wrong but that's what I can gather. Plus the fact that WoW has many elements from many mmos, but non of these elements are really focused. This can be seen as a pro and a con because it has alot to offer for many people, but for some who want certain aspects of it to be great it falls short.

I played WoW for about 2 years and recently retired because hitting level 70 pretty much killed the game for me completely. I had absolutely no desire to raid, pvp, 5 man instance, or craft. I especially had no desire to rep grind. All I found myself really doing was hanging around town and socializing with friends/guildies/and the occasional stranger, but this game does not have the most social community. So naturally I just left when I found nothing else to do. That's my thought on the subject although I could be completely wrong.

you're right. most never heard of this site. they are too focussed on getting to level 70 and getting their flying mount and going on raids

WOW is the Mc'D's of the MMO world. Its easy and made for the masses for the most part and if you do it to much you end up getting bored of it. 

But really it was something that came at the right time from the right people and drew on the popularity of blizz's previous games and fans. And then it was learned that it was a MMO that appealed to the crowds that didnt want to waste away thier lives grinding and raiding and those that wanted too could.

maybe because this site is a mmorpg fans site , regardless if its a eazy one or not and the large majority of WoW players are "WOW fans" not mmorpg fans ?

I'm quite amazed to not see any flames yet.  I assumed the first page of posts on this thread would be about how much wow sucks and how terrible it is and how much better "X" is.. bla bla bla

Its nice to see some balanced input and reviews.  I played wow a TON... many many many 60's and a 70..  I don't think 70 killed or ruined the game... I feel that it just let the softcore casual gamers see what it was like to be geared as well as a hardcore raider... 

Anyway back to the main topic... I'm just amazed that out of the millions and millions that play WoW... those huge numbers of players weren't able to push wow into the top list of MMO's here... but like the guy said I think that community is different than this one.  Blizzard forums are awsome.  They might be full of spammers and little kids talking shit.  But they're FULL none the less. 

You take a game like Vanguard that (aside from other reasons) failed horribly because they took down the OFFICAL forums and communication with the community.  Blizzard has had HUGE success with all of their games.  And if you notice, they've had battle.net going since the start.  (well Diablo/Starcraft anyway).  A FREE and common communication between all players and even some of the development staff is REQUIRED for success in an online game.

Wow is a good game its just getting old thats all. I know alot of players that play alot and they say its getting more and more boring to them but they don't cancel because they don't find any other games attractive. The one thing Wow is doing really well is attracting new players. I would say atleast 1 million players quit this year. But the thing is over 1 million or more also starting playing this year so there sub numbers haven't decreased. For every one person that quits two seem to come join. So Blizzard is definetly doing something right.