More warhammer fanbois flocking to attack AoC? Who could have ever seen it coming. So the devs having a little fun automatically makes the entire game juvenile. But they plan on going to WoW 2.0 with all the same juvenile tree hugging elves and hold your hand gameplay. Sure, there will be some younger kids that go to AoC, but i'm willing to bet a WHOLE lot more of them will be going to warhammer.

It's just light-hearted humour, there's no way to know for sure when it comes to potential community. And seriously, to me, it's no issue to brood over now - *before* the game has even been released :)

Besides, I think as long as you have a popular game, you can't avoid teenagers or immature people whatever their age may be. It seems to me that we MMORPGers will learn to not mind childish behaviour in the games so much, if we want to keep playing. A good community is a joy, but from personal experience, it's ultimately how fun the gameplay itself is that counts more.

Darkfall will kick AoC's  ass hard.

'Nuff said.

I've seen a lot of talk about  the twitch nature of the combat system, and I'd like to set a thing or two strait.

Age of Conan isn't "Split Second".  You can string combos together, this is the biggest part of this fighting system.  You need to KNOW the combos.   You don't just push X button and  a combo will fire off.   You'll have to tell it, to  use each type of swing, and if the chain you put together  is the same as a combo you've learned then it will trigger,  and  get a bonus to its speed of execution, or Damage or another aspect that combo has to it, like stun, or armor debuff.  It's not like rapid button mashing.  More like a planned out path of buttons pressed  in a timely fashion.  Watch the Videos on youtube,  At the bottom center when the little area lights up yellowish, Its telling you that theres a combo that can be triggered from the move you just made, and the small lighted  icon is the NEXT type of attack in that combo.   IF you watch its not too fast.   Most combos take a few seconds to rip off.   NOW I do think that other classes such as rogues MAY have very fast combos.    Don't quote me on that tho.

I think they probably felt pressure to stress they have "boobies" because with the complete lack of Female Avatars in the Screen Shots, the game is looking very "homo-erotic". (Note: I don't mean this as a homo-phobic remark,  just an observation).

I have to agree with the sentiment that their marketing of a "mature themed MMO" has been very immature in nature. They are turning off a lot of Mature players and appealing more to immature teens. They could destroy the game's potential for success just by completely flubbing their marketing approach.

even if people dont like the m rating it still should be a good game.

Originally posted by Lucifrank

I'd take a console controller anyday over mouse-and-keyboard for any twitch-based game, whether we're talking FPS or hack-and-slash.....I'd rather leave it up to a few joystick toggles and button taps than the sloppy mouse point-and-click in one hand and fumbling over the keyboard with the other.

You are the only person I have ever heard say that.  Everyone I know that games, literally everyone, feels exactly the opposite

Originally posted by thinkingbear

Originally posted by Lucifrank

I'd take a console controller anyday over mouse-and-keyboard for any twitch-based game, whether we're talking FPS or hack-and-slash.....I'd rather leave it up to a few joystick toggles and button taps than the sloppy mouse point-and-click in one hand and fumbling over the keyboard with the other.

You are the only person I have ever heard say that.  Everyone I know that games, literally everyone, feels exactly the opposite

Originally posted by fiontar

I think they probably felt pressure to stress they have "boobies" because with the complete lack of Female Avatars in the Screen Shots, the game is looking very "homo-erotic". (Note: I don't mean this as a homo-phobic remark,  just an observation).

I have to agree with the sentiment that their marketing of a "mature themed MMO" has been very immature in nature. They are turning off a lot of Mature players and appealing more to immature teens. They could destroy the game's potential for success just by completely flubbing their marketing approach.

 

Originally posted by viza

 

Go to the AoC site. There's a new E3 reviews news article with links to  different articles written by people that have played the game for an hour or more. There's also more info about PvP in those articles.

 

Check it out! I'm pretty pumped after reading them. There's also some recent real gameplay videos on Youtube.

Thanks for the heads up!   It looks like Funcom is finally opening up the floodgates this month, cool I've been waiting to get more details on this game.

Now to slough through all the articles :)

Omg this game is being marketed to 15 year old boys and will unavoidably crash and burn.. all because a dev said 'hey look. boobies.'

DOOOOOOOOM!

Originally posted by DownMonkey

I've read R.E.Howard since I was a small kid and I have to say I'm really not getting into this game at all, Conan never felt like it was "all about teh booobz" even when I read the books as a kid.

Nor is it now. Some people (certain journalists included) are simply blowing it out of proportion, acting offended about basically nothing, etc. We live in very sanitized, politically correct times, especially in the U.S., and attitudes/reactions to such things reflect that, clearly, to the point where a tongue-in-cheek comment by a dev or two becomes a horrific travesty to some.

Male characters in games can get slaughtered in droves (by male or female characters), but show a female body part in a game (or even mention the fact in a humorous way) and all hell breaks loose. Gotta love the double standards that P.C.-ness  brings to the table.

Agreed!  This is going to be a darker, gorier, more violent mmo than anything previous, and yet it's the R-rated nudity that draws the ire of the conservative base.  Good to know we have our priorities straight. 

On a side note, I've done a lot of digging on this game (unfortunately since hitting 50 on LotRO, the gaming arena has been stale).  This looks to be an excellent game.  The gameplay will make it or break it for me though, and that's a variable that cannot be tested until launch (or at least late beta).

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Originally posted by thejudge1
Darkfall will kick AoC's ass hard.

'Nuff said.

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Darkfall is better than everything.

This is simply because the imagination can make it a perfect game. Because it will never exist, we can all imagine what a perfect game it could be.

I love Darkfall.

darkfall isn't going to go anywhere. It'l just be another shadowbane. With what i've seen the devs wanting to do with it... the community will eliminate itself.

For those who are complaining and stating that it is not mature because they keep mentioning boobs, that is part of maturity, being able to look at boobs in a game while keeping your hands on your keyboard and mouse is maturity, just like drinking within the game, it is aiming towards the aspects of life that adults are exposed to and are mature enough to handle, if you are looking at it as immature because of boobs, you may as well take out fighting, which is immature. Those who are able to not get carried away about boobs will be those that advance in the game and don't suck at pvp. No sane person would play a game just cause there are boobs in it, they may as well play 3feel, they play for content and because they feel it is a good game, which im sure AoC will be.

We're not saying the fact that it has boobs makes the game immature...its the fact that they need to prove the maturity of the game by proclaiming... "we've got boobies" and then furthermore try to show how "mature" and "sexual" the game is going to be by posting pictures of demons feeling themselves up on the website and call it a content update....  The game may be mature, alright sure, not arguing, the marketing strat isn't....

I find some of the post about how hot the fanny is at the booths are a bit over the top, because weather or not they have to result in using females to sell a product to me is just shallow.  But I have to say I think the shot of them plastic nip and tuck tarts would not tempt my coin from my pocket unless I just wanted to play this game.

I personally can not understand why people get so excited with birds dressed in fur flashing their tit's about at game shows.  Seems some of you folk do not get serviced to regular.  Personally I would like to see the use of gender exploiting removed altogether from advertising.

Bandit.

Mature is an interesting word with an ironic effect on people.

Mature content is designed and intended for mature people. And yet, it is most often the immature, and not the mature, that are so specifically drawn to it.  In a way it could just as easily be called immature content when you think about it.

As for AoC, I only hope they aren't using mature content to cover up a lackluster game, as so many games have done in the past.

Which I'm afraid they are <_<

Originally posted by TrentH

For such a "mature" game, that quote sounds like a sure way to get preteens interested....c'mon... who shows off about boobs to promote a game, thats just getting desperate.  This isn't BMX XXX

You'd be surprised how immature top level executive meetings can get, we men are simple creatures with primal motivators. People would be amazed to find out about the decision making of some of the world's top executives.