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*Laughs* Hi all, the title may be slightly misleading, sorry no naughty pics or links here, but a story about my adventures on a hardcore server of PVP to show how certain moments are worth dying for.
MMORPG's without a hardcore PVP server option can and are still fun, but will not bring you the same height and emotional response you can and do get while in a Hardcore PVP server world (emotions from disappointment and anger to sheer joy, elation and plenty more) It's almost like a drug, typical MMORPG's without hardcore PVP are like aspirins, as opposed to PVP hardcore which is more like ecstasy IMO (ok onto my story) I wont mention the game, but I was a character who was very strong at this point in time with few at my level or with my quality of items, due to partying heavily with friends for quite a time, and the fact I was on holidays, allowing me to devote much time. STORY START: Exploring the lands on my own was exhilarating, from things I discovered to keeping an eye out for those that would do me harm, both PC and NPC alike. I came across a bridge along a ravine, and I could see on the bridge in the distance there was a chase, 3 PC's chasing 1 PC and I could tell she was already badly injured and if they got to her, it'd be all over for her very quickly. I made a choice, should I let this happen and move on... should i stay and observe, or should I exercise my right to intervene. I chose the latter and stormed down (with a speed buff on) on an intercept course, I prayed I would get there before it was too late - and was already planning my strategy in my head of what I should do. I knew I should root the DPS clown first, and wail on the healer using my slow debuff on him and keeping a healing and mana potion near by in case i needed it, as it would still be 2 vs. 1 and i knew fully well i was no God... Yet ;) As soon as I was near, I could tell she saw me and was not sure if I was going to join in the attack on her, but as soon as my root hit the melee person, i think she got the idea I wasn’t here to kill her (or was I?) My plan worked and the root hit, and I instantly turned my damaging abilities onto the healer, and sure enough, the healer turned his attention towards me, and so did his friend when they realized I was more of an immediate threat. She kept running and was soon gone over the hill... she was safe, my job was done. The battle was on, and my blood was pumping. My brain was screaming at me... don’t forget the root will break soon, finish the job dammit! I knew the healer wouldn’t be able to get his heals off as quickly as he normally could thanks to my interruptions, but the bastard combined a healing potion with his spells, keeping him alive for longer than I’d hoped. Eventually he did fall, but it had taken more time and I’d taken more damage than I initially thought, as friend number 3 who I’d ignored was also doing everything he could to kill me. Things went worse from here on in, because as soon as the healer dropped (and was probably running back already) the root dropped on our friend, the DPS king of the three amigos, and I honestly thought it was going to be a close one, I knew I could fall. Why did I do it - I thought to myself. And then my mind responded "Think about the problem at hand moron" so I popped a healing potion and evened the score. Even though I was higher level than both these bandits and had better gear (or was it soon to be their gear), together they were really testing me and eventually had me down to half hit points again quickly. I was focusing attacks on the one with less hit points, (it was a toss up, should I kill the one doing more DPS to me or the one that'll drop faster) and once i got him down to half hit points, something happened. Appearing seemingly out of no where was the girl they were chasing earlier, her hit points had recovered somewhat, but not yet fully - she was at this knaves back and had backstabbed him, dagger plunged deep into his unsuspecting back. His hit points vanished from half down to almost nothing and he was close to death, A smile creped onto my face as I instantly spun around to face the DPS PC and said “good things come to those that wait, now its your turn” Things were looking up. What an amazing feeling, - she finished off the near dead bozo - and back-pedalled away from our fight and disappeared again... DPS King assessed the situation and almost instantly figured out its time to do the 100 meters sprint, so he turned and began to run away. CRACK: Almost as if on cue, my slow ability/effect/debuff had recharged and I let him have it. I could keep pace for a while and do the damage I needed to make sure he was going to take a dirt nap. And again, out of the blue, what was left of his hit points instantly vanished, as the girl from before appeared to his flank , standing there with a dagger plunged into his side. Victory was ours, and she thanked me profusely. I was badly hurt, and so I took a nice healing potion from one of the backpacks of the fallen and used it to heal myself "Thanks very much" I said to the corpse followed by a loud burp. Further rifiling through their stuff, we split up the booty and I let her have stuff more inclined to her path. We became instant friends and have travelled together to other worlds since. She lives in a different country than me, and has moved on with life since that time many years ago; she now, has a family etc. However, every once in a while, she'll jump online into the game I’m currently playing and we'd go on adventures together, often lamenting the fact that this world is not as 'exciting' as the one where we first encountered. This is one of many experiences I had that give me the will to let you all know how great a pvp server is... If there was no consequence to dying... I’m sure the DPS king would have simply stood there when he knew his time was up at our hands instead of trying to run away... or even her, if dying meant nothing - why would she bother running from these 3 goons in the first place - we would have never met and formed this great relationship that has carried on for many years since. Of course there are those that will run, no matter if there is no cost to death, but often in a soft PVP world when dying means simply respawning at another point (like a free teleport) you will not often get to experience the heights of joy and anguish that a Hardcore PVP server can bring. Cheers, Ginetti. PS: I'm fully aware i'm not the best writer out there, so don’t cut me down to hard, but I hope the essence of the story came though all the muck of my grammar or lack thereof. ---- |
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7/12/07 10:36:20 AM#2
No, no, your writing was fine! I very much enjoyed that and when I finished reading it, I smiled and said , "awww", out loud. Ack!! I'm still smiling! |
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7/12/07 10:46:01 AM#3
Thanks for the good story. |
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Ghost12
Novice Member
Joined: 1/25/07
Achiever 66.67%, Explorer 26.67%, Killer 100.00%, Socializer 40.00% |
7/12/07 11:26:54 AM#4
And yet again, ANOTHER post relishing the aspects and beauty of hardcore PvP. Great story, makes me remember the days of oldschool Darktide. |
Originally posted by Ghost12 Glad it rekindled some fond memories for you Ghost12. ---- |
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7/12/07 2:55:38 PM#6
Originally posted by ginetti You do realise that the ENTIRE situation could have happened in WoW just as easily, right? Okay, so you couldn't loot the potion, big deal, but entire situation could have happened just as easily in WoW or even EQ2. |
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7/12/07 3:36:04 PM#7
nice story, and contrary to your apology, it was very nicely written. ____________________________ |
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7/12/07 3:46:25 PM#8
<yawn> Go play Eve, Shadowbane, or Siege Perilous on UO. Listening to you go on and on about FFA PvP is getting a more than a little stale. On the other hand, I did waste precious minutes of my life reading this drivel. So I do share some of the blame..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2if5GYXOGyo |
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7/12/07 5:11:14 PM#9
Great post. I've experienced that story many times, but only in Ultima Online back in the old days. The problem is most players have started to play POST EQ mmorpgs as their first mmorpg. All mmorpg's after everquest were pretty much carebear trash (SWG, WOW, LOTRO, etc) ... They will never get to experience what you just described in your story. The mmorpg player of today has been tricked into thinking getting the next better item is what mmorpgs are all about. When instead its about player community, good vs evil, struggle and reward. |
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7/12/07 5:18:45 PM#10
Originally posted by PVPKing
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7/12/07 5:23:03 PM#11
Agreed. Nice topic. |
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Originally posted by Gameloading
There's nothing lamer than getting the jump on someone (or getting jumped yourself) and standing there typing "LOL Noob!!" as they kill you... ---- |
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Cymdai
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Joined: 6/05/05
It''s my job to be objective, it''s my right to have an opinion. |
7/12/07 8:09:53 PM#13
I for one just don't care about this sort of competition these days. Times have changed.
Back in the "golden days" of MMORPG's, you didn't have elaborate bot setups, or 3rd party markets running around, or power-leveling services readily available. Frankly, I don't care to lose all my items to some guy who skill-ups while he's sleeping through a botting program, or bought a max-level/god-geared character.
The only way hardcore may ever return is if there is strict dev enforcement of TOS's and active dev involvement. Since I haven't heard of any of the up and coming MMORPG's planning this, I doubt this is going to happen anytime soon. In my opinion, the "hardcore" market is dead until the 3rd party software and goldselling/powerleveling websites have been permanently decommissioned. No one wants to work hard just to lose it to some guy who logs off twice a month. |
Originally posted by Cymdai I just had a revelation... imagine killing a gold farmer and taking all his items and gold hahaahahahahaha.... ---- |
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7/12/07 9:12:17 PM#15
@ginetti - yay great story. All of my great PvP moment are from MUDs not MMOs so I appreciate the story. |
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7/12/07 10:02:43 PM#16
What's "hardcore" about losing points and imaginary items in a video game? Arcade games must be even more hardcore than the hardest-core MMO. Die enough times, and your game is over. Lose three lives and it costs you 25 cents of real money. Whoah, dude! I'm totally harder core than you. I play Space Invaders!
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7/13/07 4:34:24 AM#17
Ok if people don't like PvP threads Don't read them why come in here trolling and telling people to stop posting?
Some of us like PvP threads if you don't I don't want to hear it. I don't read PvE threads and come in bitching about it.
Quote - What's "hardcore" about losing points and imaginary items in a video game? Answer - Because some items take ages to get and alot of hard work to build up and you can loose it from 1 little mistake. And don't even compare it to an space invaders you totally do not understand the concept what so ever. I suppose Space Invaders and loosing 25 cents would be hardcore if you was a bum and never had money but bums don't really play MMOs unless they are using a stolen card
Anyhow back on topic now my rants over with the "I HATE PVP GUYS" go troll another thread. Good story I always liked Neocrons pvp on the old servers where you could drop items in most zones was great fun. The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not represent the views of <Insert Website Here ;) >, its associates, or affiliates. |
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7/13/07 4:38:45 AM#18
good story ginetti. getting on an old skool UO shard right now. sigh, the carebears will never understand will they lol |
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7/13/07 4:51:41 AM#19
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2. Game(s) I Am Currently Playing: GW2 (+LoL and BF3) |
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7/13/07 10:41:15 AM#20
While WoW PvP has no lasting consequences, the point of that game is you are fighting constantly. More hardcore games have you fighting a hell of a lot less, with long boring gaps in-between. Ever considered the fact that the heightened sense of elation in hardcore PvP games is because you spend most of the time not actually fighting? If you were doing it constantly, over, and over again (which with huge loss on the tables isn't likely - otherwise), I'm sure that heightened sense would diminish, like it does in WoW. It doesn't make WoW the inferior game. It just makes it different. EVE online has pretty hardcore PvP - you can lose a lot, but there are times when I prefer the more balanced - almost arena like PvP of WoW compared to the lop-sided battles where you can spend a huge amount of time waiting... and waiting.... Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting... |
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