ther is no GREAT with a war it's like a great disaster, never have ben never going to be. ther is  wery few surviving heros in a disaster.

 and the most surviving feel guilt and the heros die. and WWII is a sim but could use some more Allied player, to be a fair WW2 sim.

Originally posted by KOrnfan4evr
No the germans sunk an ammo ship with a U-boat.  I dont remember the cong having submarines (although have been wrong in the past) so couldnt really agree with ya.  Also it was found in the mediterrainean (gah spell check) so im nto sure how it would be in the vietcong. 

Also i heard that it was Awoke a sleeping dragon (tora tora tora) but then again i got in an arguement with some friends and did some research but its not quite EXACTLY sure what the jap. general said except it was along those lines.  oh how right he was.  But yes i dont think we wouldve went to war with japan if it wasnt for pearl harbor, but im not living in those times and not sure what exactly was the political status im just sure of why we went to war with the nazi party otherwise we wouldve just kept feeding our allies more weapons and stuff (main reason for us getting out of the great depression).  Although im glad we did enter the war and kick some major a$$.

And i agree WWII was the last widely supported war.  And in the end great things were accomplished

Originally posted by KOrnfan4evr
Pearl harbor started our war with Japan.  The German U-boat sinking A civilian ship filled with americans and a few others started our war with germany (later it was found that ship was carrying ammunition to our allys).  And since Germany already took over much of the european states we helped them first.  PLease now, read up on it.  JAPAN bombed us, not the nazi's.  So it wasnt the japanese who started our fight with the germans, and remember we didnt know about the death camps till toward the 3rd part of WWII so dont even try bringing that up.

Actually the U.S.A didn't declare war upon anyone in WW2 until after they were attacked (Japan) or until after they were declared upon (Italy and Germany). Since the U.S President cannot declare war (only congress can declare war according to U.S law), FDR wasn't really in a position to declare war until it was made an obligation due to the fact they'd been attacked or declared upon already.

Dec 7, 1941 Japan attacks Pearl Harbor. Tokyo declares war on United States & Britain

Dec 8, 1941 U S Congress adopts declaration of war against Japan.

Dec 11, 1941 Germany & Italy declare war on the United States

Dec 13, 1941 Hungary & Bulgaria declare war on U. S.

Shortly afterwards Congress passed resoloutins against Italy and Germany with oone congresswoman voting against, both Democrats and Republicans agreed to adjourn polotics for the duration of the war.

The incident about the U-Boat and the liner was in WW1 as someone already pointed out.

The pacific war is quiete interesting and has something to do with imperialism and colonies as well expansion of japan, at the beginning of the 20. century and at this time the majority of the pacific area and southeastasia was in western hands i.e. Indochine: Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam (FR), East-India/Indonesia (Netherlands), Malaysia (GB), Philippines (USA), Hawaii (USA), Polynesia (FR), Samoa (US) and more.... After ww1, Japan got the former german areas: Marshall Islands, Mariane Islands, Karolin Islands and Chinese Tsingtao. China and Japan were the only 2 powerfull countries in this area. The main point of japans expansion, was to end the western influence and the establishment of japans control and influence instead ( Panasiatism = Asia for Asians). WW2 already started actually 1937 with the china-japan conflict. Since japan had troubles to get basic materials for their industry and western countries in this area suppressed the deliveries, japan was forced to attack them since they didnt want to stop their expansion.

Originally posted by Skarmy
I'm just saying, WWII was the last widely supported war of the average citizen due to the fact that they believed that what their county's activities in conflict were the right thing to do. The last war where the majority of 18-30 year old citizens of the US were MORE than glad to serve their country ( even one 12 year old Navy boy ). I am big into military history, and WWII has to be my favorite conflict to learn about; from the battles to the war machines used, it is all so fascinating to me.

Originally posted by Dpedersen

 

Originally posted by Skarmy
I'm just saying, WWII was the last widely supported war of the average citizen due to the fact that they believed that what their county's activities in conflict were the right thing to do. The last war where the majority of 18-30 year old citizens of the US were MORE than glad to serve their country ( even one 12 year old Navy boy ). I am big into military history, and WWII has to be my favorite conflict to learn about; from the battles to the war machines used, it is all so fascinating to me.

No your not, You just read the quotes on the loading screen, J/K you might actualy be into it like I am. But still all WWII Online players have READ that before.

Originally posted by KOrnfan4evr
but im not living in those times and not sure what exactly was the political status im just sure of why we went to war with the nazi party otherwise we wouldve just kept feeding our allies more weapons and stuff (main reason for us getting out of the great depression). 

 Firstly - no country in the world declared war on the Nazi Party. Nor did the Nazi party declare war on anyone. It was Germany. Neutrality was the official American response to the outbreak of war in Europe in 1939.

Congress approved immense sums for rearmament and in early 1941 passed the Lend-Lease Program, which enabled President Roosevelt to transfer arms and equipment to any nation (notably Great Britain, the Soviet Union and China) deemed vital to the defense of the United States.

 The United States entered the War for their own reasons - one was the 'decolinization' of the British empire. Its also important to realise that the UK virtually funded the US war (Money from its empire), thereby boosting the US economy. At the same time. After the War, the UK was bankrupt, the US having dealt as much a blow as Germany. Had WWII not taken place, Britain would be a lot more powerfull today (economically anyway). Some of the great America vehicles (The Thunderbolt is an example - the UK contracted US companies to develop a new plane because british engineers kept thinking on a certain level. A new design was needed, and the UK turned to the US for a new design team. When the first shipments arrived in the UK, the British designers removed the american engines and replaced them with rolls royce engines) were funded with british money directly.

On December 7, 1941, the Japanese bombed the U.S. Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. On December 8, Congress declared a state of war with Japan; three days later its allies, Germany and Italy, declared war on the United States. The western Allies decided that their essential military effort was to be concentrated in Europe. As a result of Germany’s strong land forces, however, Great Britain and the United States postponed a cross-channel attack until June 1944. On D-Day, June 6, 1944, Allied forces landed in Normandy. On August 25, Paris was liberated. By February (May be wrong here, but I believe this is when the US found the first concentration camp - though rumours had been heard from Russian Forces - but kept to the Government and High Command.) and March 1945, troops advanced into Germany and on May 7/8, Germany surrendered.