With all the uproar around SWG demise, all the major things that got ripped from the game, one aspect that slipped through the cracks was the loss of the Teras Kasi profession with the NGE. People talk about losing CH, but CH was nerfed long before that to the point of uselessness. TKM was a staple in SWG. Everyone had one. That class was a blast to play with. TKMs were the jedi of SWG long before any of those glow stick wielding fight clubbers came stumbling in.

 My first class was BH, and I did pretty well in most pvp, except against TKMs. It was like shooting a brick wall with a water gun. Before the CH nerf you had TKM/Master CHs running around with Gurreks. That combo could take on twelve guys at a time.

 Force of Will alone made that class absolutely badass. I can't remember how many hate tells I would get from coming back from an incapp and db'ing the seemingly victorious player dancing over my corpse. My TKM was also a master doc, and my guild would not do any sort of group hunt unless we brought him along, period. Think your rifleman/cm is the end all be all? Think again.

 Then you had the stackers. A tkm/fencer/master brawler? Forget about it. Those guys were unstoppable.

 TKMs could regen mind, and we also one of only four classes that could attack mind. Essential in any kind of pvp.

 Just one more reason why SOE wil be remembered always as the purple butted baboons who screwed up Star Wars.

My Favorite combo was Swordsman / Ranger I could solo the Rancors with my area attack, and harvest tons of hide, bone or meat.

I want my Swordsman Back Please!!!!!

There was one SWG template that was UBER and never nerfed, (pre NGE/CU)

Lancer/Carbineer with the rest in medic.

Im sure you guys remember that Carbine Lancer whooping EVERYBODY down.

Yeah that was me.

Sure i had to farm DoT lances for many hours a day

Not even a 4444 Jedi could mess with that template as long as you had some good lances.

Nobody could touch it 1 on 1, nobody could touch it period.

Originally posted by Tetters
oh I loved my TKM/Master Weaponsmith .... then I switched to TKM/Master Doctor .... I loved that game so much in the early days

Never had a TKM.  I loved 2H though and had it combined with smuggler, CH and a couple other professions during the precu days.  Gave it up with the CU though...it was never the same after that hit.

Crafting (at least for a while) was my thing. I loved being a master artisan/master architect, and even chef for a while.

I think the reason that CH is the "iconic" victim of the NGE is that so many CHs were in it for the fun of having a rancor or gurreck trail behind you, not for the combat chops, which were zapped into near nothingness by the Great Nerf of CH in December 2003.  For many hardcore CHs, it was never about being uber, it was about having those critters at your command, and of course the NGE did away with that entirely.

I had some TK in my template for a long time, and it was great fun.  One of the classic imbalances of the preCU period was that blasters, which totally dominated the original trilogy, were underpowered.  Then, of course, in typical SWG fashion, they were overpowered in the CU.

The SWG devs never used the nerf bat in moderation.  They always over buffed or over nerfed. 

I made a thread about this a few weeks back. To paraphrase: If $OE wanted to compete with WoW they should have kept the melee professions. Now, bringing back CH/BE, seems like they still don't get what alot of vets want. No disrespect to CH/BE players but I think you guys are outnumbered and should have been brought back AFTER melee was reintroduced.

Originally posted by irukandji

I made a thread about this a few weeks back. To paraphrase: If $OE wanted to compete with WoW they should have kept the melee professions. Now, bringing back CH/BE, seems like they still don't get what alot of vets want. No disrespect to CH/BE players but I think you guys are outnumbered and should have been brought back AFTER melee was reintroduced.

 

But..but...they did have melee!

Glowsticks!  Wonderful glowsticks!  Be a tank with a 10k health pool heal!

Originally posted by BigBlackWook

 With all the uproar around SWG demise, all the major things that got ripped from the game, one aspect that slipped through the cracks was the loss of the Teras Kasi profession with the NGE. People talk about losing CH, but CH was nerfed long before that to the point of uselessness. TKM was a staple in SWG. Everyone had one. That class was a blast to play with. TKMs were the jedi of SWG long before any of those glow stick wielding fight clubbers came stumbling in.

 My first class was BH, and I did pretty well in most pvp, except against TKMs. It was like shooting a brick wall with a water gun. Before the CH nerf you had TKM/Master CHs running around with Gurreks. That combo could take on twelve guys at a time.

 Force of Will alone made that class absolutely badass. I can't remember how many hate tells I would get from coming back from an incapp and db'ing the seemingly victorious player dancing over my corpse. My TKM was also a master doc, and my guild would not do any sort of group hunt unless we brought him along, period. Think your rifleman/cm is the end all be all? Think again.

 Then you had the stackers. A tkm/fencer/master brawler? Forget about it. Those guys were unstoppable.

 TKMs could regen mind, and we also one of only four classes that could attack mind. Essential in any kind of pvp.

 Just one more reason why SOE wil be remembered always as the purple butted baboons who screwed up Star Wars.

I'm gonna get flamed....

A lot of what he praises is exactly what was wrong with Pre-CU.  TKM's being God was absurd.  they should've been the ultimate in melee classes, a skilled master being able to go toe to toe with a Jedi.  Instead, they were being made into the uber class being able to stand up to both melee and ranged with little problem.  TKM's should've been low on damage, and high on defenses.  A true "tank" so to speak.

A TKM would've been fine I suppose if not for the wacked stacking system SOE had.  Stackers didn't improve PvP.  They ruined it.  But the fault was not with them.  The fault was with the over abundance of Jedi thanks to Pub 9, that made stacking essential to prevent PvP from becoming Jedi wars.  The original plan for modifying stacking in the CURB was a very good one.  Making stacking more realistic (instead of just taking the defensive trees in all professions) would've solved this problem right away.

I had in my posession a mind poison that ticked around 1.7k, and a mind disease that blacked any stat bar with one tick. with some rancor bile to give me a billion uses.  I ONLY used that on stackers.  And I always let them triple incap, just so I could say:

"You spent 500 hours number crunching the perfect template instead of enjoying the game, just to get triple incapped.

I honestly think people stopped enjoying the professions when they were trying to stack, instead just looking for the uber defenses.

Nah,TKA + Master Rifleman was a best solo temp and of course a little FD arm from Smuggler prof.=)Every know

The funny thing is, prior to the Great Nerf, player controlled meatshield pets were the tanks.

Because, they were high on defense (particularly those with high kinetic resists, like the midrange Greater Sludge Panthers and the high end Graul Maulers) and low on attack.

As a last box of pistols marksman, I outdamaged all my MCH pets.  Pets were high defense, low damage.

The preCU melee classes, on the other hand, got both, particularly after they introduced mitigation in early 2004.

TKM was a blast, no doubt.  My first toon was a TKM and I loved going solo against anyone, npc or player alike.  However, another profession that got taken away was my favorite.

Dueler.  Fencer/Pistoleer hybrid if you remember had incredible defense and was the most fun I had playing SWG.  I REALLY loved those hybrid professions.