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J-Nius Apprentice Member Joined: 12/30/05 Posts: 26	5/02/07 2:44:06 PM#1 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Recently, today, I've been thinking that Richard Garriott was to much seen when I hear comments or interviews about the game. It feels like he's the only one working on the game. I understand that he is a great man for the role-playing game scene, even if I didn't know him before "Tabula Rasa", but he is only one, single, man. Where are the other people? Never heard of them. And now, things are getting "worse". I don't know if I've been passing over this after all the time I spent getting information about the game, but it is not called simply Tabula Rasa anymore. It is called Richard Garriott's Tabula Rasa. See for yourself on the official site. I am not saying that the name change is not good. In fact, considering everything I've written, they needed to do this to better commercialize the game. They have a great figure in their team who is building a deep story and should "exploit" this to their great advantage. But, again, he is not alone. Where is the team? This name change will only make the other developpers more invisible than they currently are right now... J-Nius
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Kyleran Elite Member Joined: 9/13/06 Posts: 14596 A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf	5/02/07 2:49:40 PM#2 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Trouble is...Richard's only a legend to us older players, truthfully, he really hasn't done anything revolutionary since he joined NCSoft. He's living off of his Ultima fame.... and many younger players have no clue who he is so it isn't much of an endorsement.... Should have gotten Fall Out Boy or Paris Hilton to do it "Just because you aren't paying doesn't mean it's not PTW." - Amaranthar Bitter Vet ™ since 2006 "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Gylfi Novice Member Joined: 7/06/06 Posts: 679	5/02/07 3:40:41 PM#3 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Garriott's my sovereign lord i'm his loyal yeoman. He can do whatever He wants I'll follow him to the deepest room of hells I play Ultimas since I was like 10. Knowing that the game is Garriott's TR adds to game goodness.. the most trollic blog of the net
JimmyMcCall Novice Member Joined: 10/31/04 Posts: 82 MMOer since 1996 Explorer 60.00% Achiever 53.33% Socializer 46.67% Killer 40.00%	5/02/07 4:34:57 PM#4 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Kyleran Should have gotten Fall Out Boy or Paris Hilton to do it Who? They should have named it "Lord Garriot's Tabula Rasa", I only became intrested in Tabula Rasa because he is heading the team with his long time freind and partner Lord Starr, otherwise I proberbly wouldn't give Tabula rasa a second glance. Few names in the game business strike any since of loyalty in me, but Garriot and Starr are two which I will always admire. Playing:I can't say Waiting:Tabula Rasa Played:M59,UO,EQ,AO,SWG,L2,CoX SB,EQ2,WoW,VG:SoH,GW,AC,AC2, DAoC,DDO,DR,EVE,FFXI,PSO,RO, RFO,RoE,MxO,H:EoI,N2,Imagine
sepher Novice Member Joined: 6/10/06 Posts: 3548	5/02/07 4:49:41 PM#5 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) It isn't really uncommon. Fable 2 for instance: "Fable™ 2 is the sequel to the enchanting, engrossing and award winning action role playing game Fable™ developed by Peter Molyneux and Lionhead Studios." Spore: "From the mind of Will Wright, the creator of The Sims, comes SPORE™, an epic journey that takes you from the origin and evolution of life through the development of civilization and technology and eventually all the way into the deepest reaches of outer space." They're both in the Academy of Interactives Arts & Sciences Hall of Fame, and so is Richard Garriott. Sid Meier was one of the first, and certainly he attached his name to quite a few products. As popular as World of Warcraft is, I can't name a single person on it's development staff. I know Rob Pardo was lead designer, and that's about it. In contrast, I know much more about say, Brad McQuaid and can name a half a dozen people in Sigil and tell stories about them. Point being, it doesn't much effect how well your game is received if the individual developers aren't widely revealed with their community. I actually think it's kind of detrimental. So, if Richard Garriott is to serve figurehead and CuppaJo do her part as Community Manager...that's enough. I don't mind if the other developers are overshadowed. That said, most of the people with Destination Games have only worked on Ultima Online or its canceled sequels. Even Starr Long who's probably most deserving of second-most deserving of notoriety only has Ultima Online under his belt. not that Mr. Lord British has any other claims to fame, but at least he's considered something deific amongst us geeks and has been recognized by the industry as such. I think it's a good idea to attach his name to it somewhat. it establishes that Tabula Rasa is his brainchild, a tradeoff worth other involved minds being slighted some. I'm sure they don't mind.
ronan32 Novice Member Joined: 8/19/05 Posts: 1474 I will never play an mmorpg with Microtransactions	5/02/07 5:09:08 PM#6 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Gylfi Garriott's my sovereign lord i'm his loyal yeoman. He can do whatever He wants I'll follow him to the deepest room of hells I play Ultimas since I was like 10. Knowing that the game is Garriott's TR adds to game goodness.. I'm sure alot of people felt the same about brad mcquaid until he released vanguard.
sepher Novice Member Joined: 6/10/06 Posts: 3548	5/02/07 5:33:00 PM#7 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by ronan32 Originally posted by Gylfi Garriott's my sovereign lord i'm his loyal yeoman. He can do whatever He wants I'll follow him to the deepest room of hells I play Ultimas since I was like 10. Knowing that the game is Garriott's TR adds to game goodness.. I'm sure alot of people felt the same about brad mcquaid until he released vanguard. The two have a few things in common. Brad McQuaid is from Everquest 1 and is heralded as its father. Richard Garriott is from Ultima Online and considered it's father. Brad McQuaid left an evil corporation and started his own company. Richard Garriott left an evil corporation and started his own company. Similarities end there... Brad McQuaid took a 30 million dollar budget, and decided to create the "second most expensive MMO" ever without a single revenue stream. They spent a bulk of the money buying the rights to the game away from Microsoft, and entered a co-publishing agreement with SOE rather than outright allowing themselves to be acquired then, which would've been better then since it's happening anyway. Richard Garriott conceptualized Tabula Rasa, and even began working on it, but he also made Destination Games synonymous with NCSoft in North America. Garriott effectively created a premise where he could nearly scrap the entire first iteration of the game and do it over; something Sigil needed to do themselves but couldn't, and eventually ended up releasing early due to lack of cash. I guess in short, one was quite foolish and one behaved as you'd expect from a responsible figurehead. Garriott hasn't done anything yet comparable to McQuaid's mistakes.
xPaladin Novice Member Joined: 3/21/06 Posts: 743 Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit	5/03/07 11:46:32 AM#8 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) hehe.. just to add to the list Chris Taylor did the same thing for Supreme Commander.. and Chris Roberts was doing it before all of them! I wouldn't be worried at all -- in the words of the great Yogurt, it's moichandising. Doesn't mean the game will be a drop different, I suspect. I say let the man get a little bookshelf (game shelf?) respect, even if it's limited to gamers! Rock on. -- xpaladin [MMOz] AC1/2, AO, DAoC, EQ1/2, SoR, SWG, UO, WAR, WoW
User Deleted	5/03/07 2:28:04 PM#9 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) It's too late at this point, but they should have changed the name entirely. I suspect adding Garriott's name is an attempt to add some brand recognition to this horribly misnamed game.
kable Novice Member Joined: 11/23/05 Posts: 134	5/03/07 6:26:39 PM#10 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by J-Nius *I understand that he is a great man for the role-playing game scene, even if I didn't know him before "Tabula Rasa", but he is only one, single, man.* And now, things are getting "worse". I don't know if I've been passing over this after all the time I spent getting information about the game, but it is not called simply Tabula Rasa anymore. It is called Richard Garriott's Tabula Rasa. See for yourself on the official site. J-Nius One reason many people havnt heard of R.Garriot is because when EA bought origin (R. Garriots old company) They actually paid him off to NOT make any games for a certain number of years , that should tell you volumes about his ability if a company was willing to pay not to work. As far as the name change I think its a VERY GOOD sign. If Richard garriot wants to put his name on the title he must really be happy with how the game is coming along and have alot of confidence in it. Think about it, if the game was looking like it even had a chance to bomb he would want to keep his name on as low profile as possable to protect his reputation.
_Shadowmage Novice Member Joined: 7/13/05 Posts: 1461	5/03/07 7:16:04 PM#11 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by xPaladin hehe.. just to add to the list Chris Taylor did the same thing for Supreme Commander.. and Chris Roberts was doing it before all of them! Actually he wasnt - Richard Garriott has a string of successful RPG's under his belt going back 20 years or more. And as for Brad - Everquest had he done anything prior to that?
MuffinStump Apprentice Member Joined: 8/06/03 Posts: 420	5/04/07 2:47:44 AM#12 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Well, it does have a rather lengthy tradition in the movie world as well. Recently George A. Romero's Dawn of the Dead, for example. They can call it Teletubbies Online as long as it delivers on the promised gameplay. :)
User Deleted	5/04/07 11:51:05 AM#13 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by J-Nius Recently, today, I've been thinking that Richard Garriott was to much seen when I hear comments or interviews about the game. It feels like he's the only one working on the game. I understand that he is a great man for the role-playing game scene, even if I didn't know him before "Tabula Rasa", but he is only one, single, man. Where are the other people? Never heard of them. And now, things are getting "worse". I don't know if I've been passing over this after all the time I spent getting information about the game, but it is not called simply Tabula Rasa anymore. It is called Richard Garriott's Tabula Rasa. See for yourself on the official site. I am not saying that the name change is not good. In fact, considering everything I've written, they needed to do this to better commercialize the game. They have a great figure in their team who is building a deep story and should "exploit" this to their great advantage. But, again, he is not alone. Where is the team? This name change will only make the other developpers more invisible than they currently are right now... J-Nius JFYI Richard Garriott (Better known as "Lord Brittish") is the creator of Ultima I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX and Ultima Online And a few other games as well He's a legend in the RPG industry as well as the MMORPG industry.
J-Nius Apprentice Member Joined: 12/30/05 Posts: 26	5/08/07 12:02:56 PM#14 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Strangely, about what did we talked in Game/On this week, among the many subjects of the show? Not Tabula Rasa. Richard Garriott, of course! We can't get enough... I'll stop now or you might think that I'm against "my friend Richard"... I should really stop... Back on the replies, I know that many games were created by known persons and that they use their names to present their games. But in this case, the name of the person is in the name of the game. I also know that it is common for many games to call themselves with the name of the known person in it. It is just that this is the first time it happens for a MMO, am I wrong?
_Shadowmage Novice Member Joined: 7/13/05 Posts: 1461	5/08/07 9:36:08 PM#15 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I think they did it as a publicity thing to boost the games profile in general gamer awareness. At the end of the day its his company (Destination games) so yes its his game. and becuase R.G is so well known - people will expect a lot more form the game.
clarezelie Novice Member Joined: 6/08/07 Posts: 3	6/15/07 10:44:52 AM#16 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Personally, I think the rebranding effort was necessary. If you were watching this game during it's early phase of development, it seems suitable to rebrand based on possible misconceptions. Early artwork was completely different :P I'm looking forward to it - love the Sci-Fi theme- and think they did a fine job selecting this new path for development.
Danjak Novice Member Joined: 2/17/04 Posts: 198	6/15/07 11:21:06 AM#17 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I hadn't noticed the rebranding, but I was thinking this past week that if I were in charge of the game, I'd call it "Richard Garriott's Tabula Rasa." The reasons are obvious - there's a slew of other games out there for this one to get lost in the shuffle, Garriott is a gaming legend (Autoduel and Ultima are my favorite games of all time), using a name in the title is like a stamp of approval and generally seen as a good thing ("John Romero's Diakatana" notwithstanding), and the association of his name with the game can only help distinguish the game from the rest of the pack. F'ing interesting, man.
Isane Apprentice Member Joined: 5/24/06 Posts: 2546 "Some do , Some don''t , Others just cry" Jean Sali	6/15/07 12:54:17 PM#18 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Lets see :- J-Nius's Tabula Rasa ... "No means nothing not relevant" Gary Gygaxs' Tabula Rasa ... " Not logical but grabs my attention" Brad McQuaids' Tabula Rasa ... " How the great have fallen but still attention grabbing Tiger Woods's Tabula Rasa ... " Very illogical wrong genre but attention grabbing maybe a golf grenade side game" Richard Garriotts' Tabula Rasa ... "Legend Legend Legend Interest immediate a god" or maybe we should have an Oatabix moment Joe,Johns,Bill,Bens,Fred,Jean,Gill & Daves Tabula Rasa ... " No potential here doesn't make a lot of sense Now I enjoyed responding to the totally pointless post, If anyone can come up with a ny better prefixes to Tabula Rasa it amy be fun. ________________________________________________________ SWTOR and COS games that could deliver !!
Danjak Novice Member Joined: 2/17/04 Posts: 198	6/15/07 1:07:54 PM#19 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Tiger Woods' Tabula Rasa ^^ LMAO!
Hexacoatl Novice Member Joined: 7/24/06 Posts: 9	6/17/07 6:05:49 AM#20 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Mmmh, let´s see..... George W. Bush´s Tabula Rasa - sounds like a Game sponsored by Daddy, with permission to betray people arround the gameworld and choosing fear instead of popularity to rule the countryserver......sounds like a goldselling Blizzard Executive compeling little Bloodelfes to buy Gold or be banned.