At first I was amused, now after i listened to it twice I actually feel sad.

New type of gaming forms brings new types of problems, whole familys have to learn and adept. I feeels sad for that kid, not getting the point, I feel sad for he's parents who suddenly has to "parent" when their kid plays a game, suddenly there's no "pause" button or "save" button.. There totally unprepared for this.

And as many others have replayed, this could never happen in my home either, my kids now what to expect and would never get themselfes in a team/raid so close to bedtime, If they did they had to abort. The reason it's not an issue in my home is not my rules are different, but my rules are communicated and agreed on before my kids even log into a game.

Sometimes I think back on my first mmo's 10 years ago, there were no prepaid cards and almost noone you meet was underage.. I don't know.. Some times I wish I was back there..

Originally posted by Ruffoz
Are you serious? The poor woman didn't even yell at the kid, I guess things were different back in the day.. if that was losing her temper, my mom was a psycho lol

Originally posted by Savvon

Originally posted by Ruffoz
Are you serious? The poor woman didn't even yell at the kid, I guess things were different back in the day.. if that was losing her temper, my mom was a psycho lol

My previous post was directed at some responses to the audio clip, not to the audio clip itself. I then explained what I would have done in the same situation. Again, for the people here.

why does anyone care? I would have booted the little ass clown from the group for leaving an open mic.

Originally posted by nethaniah

why does anyone care? I would have booted the little ass clown from the group for leaving an open mic.

Boot him?  And miss out on the all the great "lols" to be had?

Originally posted by Supernerd

Originally posted by Tsolless

Originally posted by Supernerd
borderline child abuse i'd say

He was asking so nice to play and said please and the mom is just being way to strict and harsh.

That's sarcastic, right?

Well yes and no.
Do you think the mom has any idea how hard it is to set up a 25 man and how long it takes to get it organized and stuff?
He said he never has done it before and he was all excited and the mom must be having pms or that new pmm,
because she was not showing any love or understanding at all.She wasn't even trying to compromise .
Maybe if she let him play a bit more he would listen to her once in a while,instead of demanding he do what he is told all the time.

Sometimes parents need to be understanding and see what maybe important to their child instead of trying to teach them a lesson.
I think the mom needs to watch a few episodes of Shalom in The Home or something.

All I can say is wow....

If that were my son and he started that, I'd unplug power cord from the computer and take the dsl/cable box and lock it in the safe.

That degree of addiction takes some time to get that bad and steps should have been taken much, MUCH sooner to prevent it in the first place. His parents need to cancel that subscription, toss out the CD's and restrict computer usage to school work only.

Originally posted by 9216544
The parents handle this pretty well.

I would like to see how some of you 20+ year olds would take it if someone pulled the plug on your raid in any game... There might not be tears but some punches to the wall.

1) If there's no substance then there is no addiction, so STOP MISUSING THE TERM ADDICTION. It's plain willfulness, nothing more.

2) I've had my PC shut off when I was a teenager for less, so that kid has some very tolerant parents, and I think those parents need to consider being stricter with the kid.

3) But I do see that the kid was PO'd in that it took him forever to get a 25 raid together, personally I would have introduced the kid to MUDing and not WoW, if you want a kid that will play on the PC, but be able to easily say, "Bye" and get on with life. This is why I'm really say it, WoW is a scourge on the MMO market for pulling the raid/pokemon-equipment crap on kids (aka CASUAL MY ARSE!). At least in MUDing the worse the kid might get into is teenage furry pr0n or running his own website and MUD server from home. :3

-- Brede

Originally posted by ladyattis

1) If there's no substance then there is no addiction, so STOP MISUSING THE TERM ADDICTION. It's plain willfulness, nothing more.

-- Brede

1. 1. Compulsive physiological and psychological need for a habit-forming substance: a drug used in the treatment of heroin addiction.
   2. An instance of this: a person with multiple chemical addictions.
   3. The condition of being habitually or compulsively occupied with or or involved in something.
   4. An instance of this: had an addiction for fast cars.

Hmm, Fear and respect. My dad hasn't even grabbed me ever, not nearly, his look and the anger in his voice was enough. He'd keep on me about everything, to this day at 23, nothing good enough, i'd be useless at everything, no encouragement, i was expected to be better. I still don't argue with him, what's the point? You NEVER win at arguments, you just gotta say "ok then".

In my teenage years, he'd take me out for drinks. Madness you say, well whilst others were vandalising the park drinking extra strength lager, i was drinking in the pub with my dad, the youngest little local. I now know the dangers of alcohol and drink responsibly and have no desire to binge drink like my peers. Growing up with people twice my age i saw things without having to try them myself. I still drink with him now in the pub, like a mate.

But i respect my dad, even though he'd have a go at me for no reason at all, i'd never do anything bad out of fear of his reaction, i mean, if he reacts badly due to the noise i make when chewing food with my mouth closed...but it never got to that stage, because i never did anything bad...ever. He'd do a strange thing. Buy me anything i wanted, i'd have the best clothes, games consoles, everything, but if i did anything REMOTELY bad, even trivial stuff like leave a dirty glass in the kitchen without washing it, he'd go mad. The result was i knew if i just accepted anything thrown at me with good will and a smile, the rewards were there, and it carries so well over to real life, as it's made me so self-confident and strong-willed.

I'd play MMO's 12 hours straight whilst at Uni, he'd say how lazy, i was, i was a failure, i'd never become anything. The penny dropped, i felt bad about myself, started eating healthily, stopped MMO's and hey presto, got the degree, got the good job and the girlfriends flowed lol. Punishment - Reward - Punishment - Reward. Dogs learn that fact pretty fast, are kids dumber than dogs?

So in summary. TELL THE LITTLE TURD HE'S WRONG, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S A FACT, HE DEALS WITH IT, NO SPECIAL MEETING, DISCUSSION, IT HAPPENS OR HE GOES AND LIVES WITH HIS NAN AND HE'LL HAVE NO PC, NO NICE CLOTHES, WEARING THOSE CHEAP IMMITATION NIKE TRAINERS WITH THE FAKE PLASTIC BUBBLE IN THE SIDE SO THE KIDS MAKE FUN OF HIM.

Originally posted by pb1285n

Originally posted by porgie
Why?  Because he deserves a good thump in the head?

Geez, my parents would have put up with that whining for a whole 1/2 a second.  Just the amount of time it would take my dad to get within striking range of me.  That's ridiculous!  Talk about weak parents. 

 

Yes because beating your child is always the answer.

Though his parents didn't do a good job of dealing with it either. It's so sad when a parent insults their child.  They could of deal with the situation more positively. It's just sad...

please my mum gave us nice smacks across the face and guess what she breed a surgeon in my brother.

This is whats wrong with the world now the next generation are gonna be totally useless (already are).Now kids can do what they want without any fear of anything but allowance or tv been taken from them.

Now a good slap is the msot feared thing on earth for a kid and trust me it breeds character.

My apologies xXSeraphielXx. I was pretty tired at the time and must have edited the quote boxes incorrectly. Thank you for correcting me, I certainly wouldn't do that intentionally.

~Mysk

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Originally posted by xXSeraphielX
Though, judging from your syntax, you aren’t the most heavily educated person yourself. I feel like this is a large part of the problem. There are so many parents out there who have no concept of how to raise a child and no respect for the responsibility they have to that child. Like you, infrared, are blaming the child for this behaviour when his very nature has been determined by his life up to this point. You and the rest of his family, the way you have treated him, and the conditions of his childhood are what made him the man he is today. It is important to respect your children as human beings.

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I don't necessarily agree nor disagree with infrared1, nor am I saying that there isn't any truth to what you're saying.
Seems to me, though, that you're being a bit high and mighty here. The grammar used by the both of yous (that was deliberate :p) isn't the greatest, and this is a forum. Forums can be a poor judge of a person's education.
I'm also not saying that there aren't any social factors involved with addiction, but some people are simply predisposed to being an addict of one thing or another. Gambling, drugs, gaming, sex, whatever; if they're the type to become addicted, then they'll get addicted to one thing or another.
I suppose that gaming is better than cocaine.
Folks like the kid in the audio and infrared1's kid need help. Sometimes that help comes in the form of "hard love", and other times it's counseling. It's unfortunate that friends in this case are fueling his addiction and holding him back.. whether or not I agree with him, I think that I see where infrared1 is coming from.
Personally I would recommend counseling as the next step, but the guy has his own life to live. Ultimately there's only so much that you can do to help someone.
As for the kid in the audio, I would pull the plug on his computer and from there just allow him a "time allowance" of sorts to check his email. The rest of the time there would be no computer and no game consoles, and maybe he'd have to do chores around the house to earn that "time allowance".
...annnd it's bed time. /wave
~Mysk

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Please if you are going to post a quote ensure the correct person is quoted.... if you check I did not say that....
xXSeraphielXx

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