Lol , i bet that the 29th of july we will have a new message like : " Sorry but we need a few couples of weeks more "

Well too bad another wasted game ...

1. Thousands of people have played Closed Beta, so its clearly not vapourware.

2. I'd rather a games company took their time to get it right instead of rushing out a bug ridden client. Too many companies just rush out half built games, and its good to see someone actually working on something for a change!

Originally posted by Wobblebob

1. Thousands of people have played Closed Beta, so its clearly not vapourware.

2. I'd rather a games company took their time to get it right instead of rushing out a bug ridden client. Too many companies just rush out half built games, and its good to see someone actually working on something for a change!

Actually if you read what DP said , they won't put any cool feature on OB , major reason for the delay is ... the item mall with acclaim coin system ! Lol they just are to busy trying to get some money instead of fixing bugs and/or adding new features. Implementing a pay option in a beta shows us how they consider the gamer community...

Now they already shown us that they are incompetent by calling Korean devs to the rescue and delaying the OB (once more), so i guess we will have another "2weeks more guys" the 30 of july and finally IF the OB come online (may be in november , may be in 2107) we won't have the so waited PvP system promised by DP , nor the others promised features except a nice item mall!

To sum up :

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Originally posted by PvtCaboose
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DP annoucement :
"The billing system is the biggest problem right now, not really technically difficult, but has been left to last. It has to be coded and tested as the Acclaim Coins system is different than theirs in Korea. Acclaim wants you to be able to use the same coins in any Acclaim games , this means interfacing closely & securely with Acclaim hardware & databases."
GM Jillean :
" I said that the PVP would come in a future build not this one. Our goal is just to get this up..."
Q.E.D , now before posting usless comment read and learn before .

Miyoshi,

If you dont like the game, dont like the company, and dont think it will ever be out, why oh why are you here spreading rumors and dissent amoungst the forums?

I for one would much prefer a company to make a good game instead of a rushed game. Plus, Openbeta is not your personal god given right. Its a method of the company testing their product prior to release. They dont have to do it, but they know it will make the final game stronger. So what if they want to make sure the coin system works? Would you rather they released something that didnt work, and when you spent your $10 it vanished with no trace? I sure wouldnt!

Instead of bashing them for trying to make it a painfree and fun experience, support them and give them the time to make it the best they can. It wont be much longer and I'm sure a few weeks wait wont kill you.

First this is a forum , so it's an open place to put our opinion and feelings. If you just want to hear that acclaim is a wonderful company that always keep their promise then go to acclaim's forum.

I personnaly participated in many close/open beta like hero online , iSro , Cabal Eu , 9dragons (etc...) , and participating in some others (metin2 e.g)

Now even a greedy company like joymax didn't implement item mall in open beta stage , i'm ok with the fact that an item mall must be secure BUT , at this time this isn't the main problem , they could put OB on line and implement the item mall in the gold version.

Why am i a bit sarcastic with acclaim and 2moons ? Well i registered an account for 2moons in august 2006 , when i saw no evolution i just left and forgot it (no mail , no update...) . Then a friend had a CB key and invite me , so i registered a new account in february , too bad i didn't got a key ... At the end of CB i was waiting and reading annoucement from acclaim , first it was planned in april then delayed , and delayed again , and again . Then they at last called the korean devs to help after .... 4 month !

This "stay tuned" policy is really irritating because , first the CB client was totally different than the one planned for OB and gold ; secondely , instead of this "stay tuned" policy they should say "ok guys thanks for the info provided , now we need several monthes to bring it back" instead of thoses constant lieing , it should be more professional...

So now what could we expect from a company that always try to find excuses for their incompetence and lie ? What will happen with game's update ? What about the future communication with the game's community ? What about the customer service ?

If acclaim keeps this kind of behavior , well i think it's gonna be worst than iSro...

Edit: i forgot to mention that they can't even update their website homepage ! How pro is that ?

Originally posted by Miyoshi

First this is a forum , so it's an open place to put our opinion and feelings. If you just want to hear that acclaim is a wonderful company that always keep their promise then go to acclaim's forum.

I personnaly participated in many close/open beta like hero online , iSro , Cabal Eu , 9dragons (etc...) , and participating in some others (metin2 e.g)

Now even a greedy company like joymax didn't implement item mall in open beta stage , i'm ok with the fact that an item mall must be secure BUT , at this time this isn't the main problem , they could put OB on line and implement the item mall in the gold version.

Why am i a bit sarcastic with acclaim and 2moons ? Well i registered an account for 2moons in august 2006 , when i saw no evolution i just left and forgot it (no mail , no update...) . Then a friend had a CB key and invite me , so i registered a new account in february , too bad i didn't got a key ... At the end of CB i was waiting and reading annoucement from acclaim , first it was planned in april then delayed , and delayed again , and again . Then they at last called the korean devs to help after .... 4 month !

This "stay tuned" policy is really irritating because , first the CB client was totally different than the one planned for OB and gold ; secondely , instead of this "stay tuned" policy they should say "ok guys thanks for the info provided , now we need several monthes to bring it back" instead of thoses constant lieing , it should be more professional...

So now what could we expect from a company that always try to find excuses for their incompetence and lie ? What will happen with game's update ? What about the future communication with the game's community ? What about the customer service ?

If acclaim keeps this kind of behavior , well i think it's gonna be worst than iSro...

Edit: i forgot to mention that they can't even update their website homepage ! How pro is that ?

 

hmm maybe becuase there actualy putting time into the game?i doubt they want to go bankrupt a second time.Its good to know there taking there time on this game, not releasing another crappy asain point and click.When this game FINNALY launches its going to be huge.And before you said what updates we are getting, and i seriosuly doubt you now that,so you learn to read.

Originally posted by PvtCaboose

hmm maybe becuase there actualy putting time into the game?i doubt they want to go bankrupt a second time.Its good to know there taking there time on this game, not releasing another crappy asain point and click.When this game FINNALY launches its going to be huge.And before you said what updates we are getting, and i seriosuly doubt you now that,so you learn to read.

lol this game is mainly an english translation of Dekaron and as stated by DP himself Dekaron is played by 150k players atm in korea (this game is also available in japan , taiwan , china ...). The main difference with Dekaron will be more quest and a better pvp system (may be a siege system but i think this will be also an update in Dekaron).

So the only time they have to put on is to add quests atm (as Jillean said the new pvp system won't be on the OB first release) and of course their item mall system ( different from the korean one).

And how do i know that ? Well i just read the news and annoucements from DP and acclaim since july 2006 ....

you get what you pay for and from what my friends who've played it tell me (from the korean server mind you) its a pretty kick ass game so i wouldnt complain when you compare it to other f2p games out now.

hell look at rf online being run into the ground by codemasters with lack of content, updates, support and the whole 9 and ppl PAY for it.

honestly, what mmo isnt delayed these days? personally i'd rather play a complete game thats delayed than a game that goes live far too soon and dies because of it

Originally posted by PvtCaboose
if you read the announcements then you would now they have to wait for the koreans to give them the codes.

Originally posted by Miyoshi

...... Then they at last called the korean devs to help after .... 4 month !

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Yes and as i said after ... 4 month , next time read the whole post ...

Originally posted by opium2k

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honestly, what mmo isnt delayed these days? personally i'd rather play a complete game thats delayed than a game that goes live far too soon and dies because of it

As said by Jillean the main task atm is just to bring the game online , not with all the features promised :

GM Jillean :

" I said that the PVP would come in a future build not this one. Our goal is just to get this up..."

  From what I picked up, it wasn't that they called the Korean Devs for anything, they have the code.  IE they are the ones doing the actual coding.  Acclaim probably wont do much besides localize the game implement the coin system, and then add updates as they are available.  The issue I see is that the actual server code is coming straight from Korea, hence the Korean team insisting on higher security measures, and new server, etc, before transfering the code over.

  And frankly, it doesn't have anything to do with being greedy.  Acclaim doesn't owe you crap.  While I'm sure they want everyone to enjoy this game and therefore use the item shop, they aren't putting the game out for no reason.  They want to make money, like any other company.  Hence the focus on the Coins issue, and frankly I don't blame them for that.

  They want to get the game up as soon as they can, and I'm sure they will as soon as they can.  If that is not good enough for you, go play  another MMO.

Originally posted by Jittan

  From what I picked up, it wasn't that they called the Korean Devs for anything, they have the code.  IE they are the ones doing the actual coding.  Acclaim probably wont do much besides localize the game implement the coin system, and then add updates as they are available.  The issue I see is that the actual server code is coming straight from Korea, hence the Korean team insisting on higher security measures, and new server, etc, before transfering the code over.

  And frankly, it doesn't have anything to do with being greedy.  Acclaim doesn't owe you crap.  While I'm sure they want everyone to enjoy this game and therefore use the item shop, they aren't putting the game out for no reason.  They want to make money, like any other company.  Hence the focus on the Coins issue, and frankly I don't blame them for that.

  They want to get the game up as soon as they can, and I'm sure they will as soon as they can.  If that is not good enough for you, go play  another MMO.

Actually i'm already playing another mmorpg (well actually 3 atm ), and guess what ? Too bad Acclaim won't get my bucks ... and btw all the ppl from my guild in others mmorpg are playing with me to , so no more bucks from them to !

Acclaim clearly missed the point by failing in adapting an existing game, delay , more delay and again more delay to bring us a game that is already running smoothly in others countries ! Teasing us ( the customers ) and constantly trying to find excuses isn't the good policy as there are a lot of mmorpgs actually on the market .

So as i said , instead of trying to implement first an item mall to bring the game on , the should put the game on and then , when the item mall is secured enough, implement it in game .This kind of behavior would actually bring more ppl in and open it to a wider community (IOW , more potential customers ...). That denote a really bad commercial policy in addition to a bad dev one ....

So as DP said , they are "new kids on the block" in the mmorpg's market and they actually porved us that they are clearly incompetent