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daddysboy30 Novice Member Joined: 9/15/06 Posts: 11	6/04/07 2:48:19 PM#21 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I think that this a one great game and its gonna beat others when Sony gets to work .... I would recomment this game to any1!
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Markaj Novice Member Joined: 2/12/07 Posts: 166 BE A RESPONSIBLE GAMER, TODAY!	6/04/07 3:53:12 PM#22 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) If the tragic premature release, terribly generic feel of the whole game, the identity crisis btw wow and eq, bad press, successive confessions from Brad, patches gone borged, people who left in hordes, Sigil shut down, 50 developers fired, the premature adoption by SOE and the upcoming server merges have not convinced you about the vivacity of the game, what will? CONTRIBUTE INTO THE GAMING INDUSTRY! STOP PAYING FOR BORING COPYCATS, UNFINISHED BUGFESTS AND CRANKY JUNKWARE. BE A RESPONSIBLE GAMER!
ZandalfDJs Novice Member Joined: 6/14/06 Posts: 16	6/04/07 3:57:12 PM#23 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I second that Markaj!
Tnice Novice Member Joined: 1/21/07 Posts: 563	6/04/07 5:22:47 PM#24 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Markaj If the tragic premature release, terribly generic feel of the whole game, the identity crisis btw wow and eq, bad press, successive confessions from Brad, patches gone borged, people who left in hordes, Sigil shut down, 50 developers fired, the premature adoption by SOE and the upcoming server merges have not convinced you about the vivacity of the game, what will? To add to that the game was just short of having it's servers turned off were it not for Smed coming in at the last minute to save it like Spiderman. However, you have to admire the tenacity of the VG fans. They don't seem to be as hostle as they were when we told them initially how bad the game was. I think they realize that the servers may be shut down any day now.
Urdig Novice Member Joined: 5/20/07 Posts: 1263 I do wish I didn''t still miss her.	6/04/07 5:27:19 PM#25 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Tnice Originally posted by Markaj If the tragic premature release, terribly generic feel of the whole game, the identity crisis btw wow and eq, bad press, successive confessions from Brad, patches gone borged, people who left in hordes, Sigil shut down, 50 developers fired, the premature adoption by SOE and the upcoming server merges have not convinced you about the vivacity of the game, what will? To add to that the game was just short of having it's servers turned off were it not for Smed coming in as the last minute to save it like Spiderman. However, you have to admire the tenacity of the VG fans. They don't seem to be as hostle as they were when we told them initially how bad the game was. I think they realize that the servers may be shut down any day now. Care to elaborate on that for those of us that were unaware that the servers were about to be shut off? Got some inside information perhaps? Wish Darkfall would release.
Tnice Novice Member Joined: 1/21/07 Posts: 563	6/04/07 6:03:53 PM#26 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Urdig Originally posted by Tnice Originally posted by Markaj If the tragic premature release, terribly generic feel of the whole game, the identity crisis btw wow and eq, bad press, successive confessions from Brad, patches gone borged, people who left in hordes, Sigil shut down, 50 developers fired, the premature adoption by SOE and the upcoming server merges have not convinced you about the vivacity of the game, what will? To add to that the game was just short of having it's servers turned off were it not for Smed coming in as the last minute to save it like Spiderman. However, you have to admire the tenacity of the VG fans. They don't seem to be as hostle as they were when we told them initially how bad the game was. I think they realize that the servers may be shut down any day now. Care to elaborate on that for those of us that were unaware that the servers were about to be shut off? Got some inside information perhaps? Just speculation. If they keep bleeding Subs how can they keep the lights on? Maybe in like the Matrix Online but what is the breaking point? Edit: However, if SOE did not buy VG it would be history and we would not be talking about it right now. When Sigil fired all their Employees in the parking lot they were out of money.
Gules_Aspen Novice Member Joined: 3/14/04 Posts: 282	6/04/07 8:41:44 PM#27 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Dead is a relative term. If there were no expectations, and the "game" wasn't hyped beyond all reason by not just the fans but th edimwits making it...it wouldn't be described as dead. But, after spending millions, bragging about how great it was, and general stuff like this: A lot of people who have researched and looked into the features and aspects of Vanguard will know that it will be one of the best MMORPGs out there for its genre, the amount of content is unbelievably large. What i want to know is if you all really think this game will get up there with WoW, EQ2 and the other top games. Personally i hope the success of Vanguard never stops until it is #1. honestly it will probably surpass either of the games mentioned in quality but it is hard to see any game in the near future surpassing the "popularity" of WoW i agree with the above two posters combined, vanguard should easily surpass eq2 and beat it into submission. im guessing VG will have around 300k-400k subs to start.. Bet it has more like a quarter million (or more) at release. I think Vanguard will be an elixir for the entire genre and capture a very large audience. Topping WoW? I say yes! And just remember, if I had told you WoW would have 4 million subscribers worldwide before it launched you would have called me crazy too! If in fact this game has no problems and runs smoothly with all the features its presenting, it'll shoot straight to the top in no time. If it doesn't surpass EQ2 I'll be amazed... Vanguard will be a great game and it won't be like wow where all you can do is raid at max lvl Vanguard Will surely be the best All I want is a awesome kick ass game, and i know that Sigil is going to bring us that And so on and so on and so on..... all that drivel is from ONE THREAD here a while back. After hearing this over and over, yes. Vanguard is dead, 30K subs or not. McQuaid suckered everyone, and hard. Bite me, Turbine.
manzene Novice Member Joined: 5/04/07 Posts: 62	6/06/07 12:06:18 PM#28 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) VG is mostly dead (Princess Bride) and I dont see anyone in their mind jumping for a chance to give it financial/creative mouth-to-mouth
David_RR Novice Member Joined: 8/04/06 Posts: 134	6/06/07 4:03:35 PM#29 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) if the game dies it will not be the end of the world but I am hoping that this game can be saved. It has potential. I like the combat system and I like the crafting and the diplomacy systems. What I do not like: Rogue is one of the weakest classes, cannot find vendors who will buy your surplus items and the fact that there are not enough players to group. I will play the game till it dies, I die or they make it better. I can think of other games that are worse. If the game does die, my credit card will be thankful. I am presently playing DDO, LOTR and Vanguard. I like all three. I hope Vanguard can get its act together.
chryses Advanced Member Joined: 5/29/07 Posts: 1197	6/06/07 4:45:42 PM#30 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Once again a thread about VG dying lol Well I have played VG since launch. I have seen huge improvements and above all massive potential. I have not played EVE-Online since VG came out and that is saying something! As long as the dev team keeps adding content and performance improvements it will be fine. They do need to get rid of about 4-5 servers and merge them with others. The only problem I have with the game is that I love doing lots of stuff solo but I do need a group for most missions. At low times its hard to find a group. However this is probably my fault since I am on GMT and I go on a USA server. So I guess its not a VG problem but pretty much mine for being daft! Even if the dev team add absolutely nothing there is so much content it would take you a good 6 months to get through it all. Unless you are a 24/7 game addict.
Tnice Novice Member Joined: 1/21/07 Posts: 563	6/06/07 5:56:07 PM#31 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by chryses Once again a thread about VG dying lol Well I have played VG since launch. I have seen huge improvements and above all massive potential. I have not played EVE-Online since VG came out and that is saying something! As long as the dev team keeps adding content and performance improvements it will be fine. They do need to get rid of about 4-5 servers and merge them with others. The only problem I have with the game is that I love doing lots of stuff solo but I do need a group for most missions. At low times its hard to find a group. However this is probably my fault since I am on GMT and I go on a USA server. So I guess its not a VG problem but pretty much mine for being daft! Even if the dev team add absolutely nothing there is so much content it would take you a good 6 months to get through it all. Unless you are a 24/7 game addict. Even after Horizons shut it's servers down it's fans did not admit that the game was dead. Check out this thread --> http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/97610. It is great to read and very similar to the VG situation with the exception that SOE will keep at least 1 server up and running to train their new Developers. Here is an example of the great posts. Seem familiar to the VG posts? Yes, it does: Game dead? It's hard to say. It really seemed that when Taluga(sp?) ran it...the game seemed to be coming around. There seemed to be genuine effort to do new things gamewize. I always loved Horizons and thought the game had a nice "style" to it. The community was great in the beginning, but when the servers were merged years ago, it seemed that there was nothing but a lot of fighting and bickering. Horizons was the first mmo that I ever played and no game has ever matched that feeling of the first few months of playing it. However, many other games have come along that hold a closer spot in my heart. It saddens me to see Horizon's suffer like this because I felt the game had real potential but was never really given a chance due to the people running it. Things seem even more grim now...=*( TranceKnight (Oaken)
lancebird Novice Member Joined: 1/17/07 Posts: 166	6/07/07 6:46:10 PM#32 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) The only possible way Vanguard has potential.. is that it would be possible to completely gut the thing and rewrite it. But it just doesn't make financial sense to do it. If you're going to put that kind of time and money into something, you might as well just write a new game that doesn't have the horrible reputation that Vanguard has earned.
Urdig Novice Member Joined: 5/20/07 Posts: 1263 I do wish I didn''t still miss her.	6/07/07 6:48:10 PM#33 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Tnice Originally posted by chryses Once again a thread about VG dying lol Well I have played VG since launch. I have seen huge improvements and above all massive potential. I have not played EVE-Online since VG came out and that is saying something! As long as the dev team keeps adding content and performance improvements it will be fine. They do need to get rid of about 4-5 servers and merge them with others. The only problem I have with the game is that I love doing lots of stuff solo but I do need a group for most missions. At low times its hard to find a group. However this is probably my fault since I am on GMT and I go on a USA server. So I guess its not a VG problem but pretty much mine for being daft! Even if the dev team add absolutely nothing there is so much content it would take you a good 6 months to get through it all. Unless you are a 24/7 game addict. Even after Horizons shut it's servers down it's fans did not admit that the game was dead. Check out this thread --> http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/97610. It is great to read and very similar to the VG situation with the exception that SOE will keep at least 1 server up and running to train their new Developers. Here is an example of the great posts. Seem familiar to the VG posts? Yes, it does: Game dead? It's hard to say. It really seemed that when Taluga(sp?) ran it...the game seemed to be coming around. There seemed to be genuine effort to do new things gamewize. I always loved Horizons and thought the game had a nice "style" to it. The community was great in the beginning, but when the servers were merged years ago, it seemed that there was nothing but a lot of fighting and bickering. Horizons was the first mmo that I ever played and no game has ever matched that feeling of the first few months of playing it. However, many other games have come along that hold a closer spot in my heart. It saddens me to see Horizon's suffer like this because I felt the game had real potential but was never really given a chance due to the people running it. Things seem even more grim now...=*( TranceKnight (Oaken) I'm not seeing a connection. Could you explain it for me? Wish Darkfall would release.