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  Sinkael

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5/22/07 10:36:28 AM#21
I have about had it with these ignorant "female gamer" stories, you know what a majority of "female gamers" want? For editorials to quit segregrating (sp?) them off as some kind of second class player. You know what a female gamer is? A gamer, just like everyone else, and they do not need to be constantly referred to as something different.

As for the basis of the article, do men get treated differently in games then women? OF COURSE! Lets look at almost every single fantasy story being pushed down our throats, along with every popular story throughout history. Now take a look at the morals most of us got brought up on, "don't hit girls", "the man walks on the outside to keep the girl safe on the inside", "open the door for the lady", "don't use swear words around ladies", etc etc etc. We have been programmed from birth that it is the mans responsibility to protect the woman, it's an engraved response within most men.

But don't you women worry, with the state of the country and the decline in personal responsibility and accountability, and the decline in family values, you women won't have to worry about us men doing they annoying things like opening the door, pulling out your chair or tossing our jacket over the mud puddle for you.
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  premierebori

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5/22/07 10:40:05 AM#22
Excellent first piece! Good job!

I play only female characters in all games that let me. Be it online or singleplayer. I just find a female form more pleasant to look at especially if you are going to spend many hours playing her.
  CasaFranky

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5/22/07 10:43:42 AM#23
Im allwasy using female Chars, but i never do say " HEY ima GIRRL! GIV MONEY!"
  mxmissile

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5/22/07 10:46:05 AM#24

gender faker == wanna be transvestite

no other way to put it

sad but true

always has been, always will be

nothing else to say

 

  jayheld90

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5/22/07 10:46:55 AM#25
Originally posted by Wobblebob

Quote: "There has yet to be an MMO that gives you XP for Dancing."

Dance Online gives you XP for dancing.

SWG used to give xp for dancing...

  zeedaam

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5/22/07 10:47:12 AM#26
My brother and I got our girlfriends to start playing a while back. We were both very surprised at the avatars they created. Large breast and skimpily dressed. When we asked them about their appearance they both had the same response. "Have you ever seen how the girls dress at the mall?"
  kjemper

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5/22/07 10:49:36 AM#27
Originally posted by korvass
Not a bad first time piece from AJ. Curious what she'll write next. Couple minor faults really. Dancing thing being one.

AJ, try SWG; you get xp for dancing, music, image design and entertainment quests (it has a full entertainer system as a profession, where you can piece together your own music/dancing routines, and change nearly every facet of the character).

Not a bad, and quite amusing read all-round. Curiously you didn't touch on the male-playing-female cybering part of internet gaming.

 

Heard quite a few horror stories of actual females so desperate for attention that they play on RP servers and participate in such things as cyber.  Additionally, they have a new "boy friend" nearly every week.  I guess they view it as a graphical messenger.  Quite sad and disturbing really....  Most of them are minors.

  elvenangel

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Why So Serious?

5/22/07 10:53:13 AM#28

Originally posted by Sinkael
I have about had it with these ignorant "female gamer" stories, you know what a majority of "female gamers" want? For editorials to quit segregrating (sp?) them off as some kind of second class player. You know what a female gamer is? A gamer, just like everyone else, and they do not need to be constantly referred to as something different.

As for the basis of the article, do men get treated differently in games then women? OF COURSE! Lets look at almost every single fantasy story being pushed down our throats, along with every popular story throughout history. Now take a look at the morals most of us got brought up on, "don't hit girls", "the man walks on the outside to keep the girl safe on the inside", "open the door for the lady", "don't use swear words around ladies", etc etc etc. We have been programmed from birth that it is the mans responsibility to protect the woman, it's an engraved response within most men.

But don't you women worry, with the state of the country and the decline in personal responsibility and accountability, and the decline in family values, you women won't have to worry about us men doing they annoying things like opening the door, pulling out your chair or tossing our jacket over the mud puddle for you.

I don't know guys that do any of that unless they're dating you or want to date you lol my male friends never hold the door for me or pull out my chair and I'm just fine with that.  Why?  Because I'm not interested in them!!   The few non interested in me guys that have ever done this (usually just getting the door to the building) are usually co workers and they're being polite or its just coincidence they get to the door before me (because i tend to take my time sometimes) .   


You missed the whole point of this article....its to protect guys from FAKE WOMEN lol!!    This article isn't an ignorant female gamer story this is a guys stop thinking with your pants and you wont have a reason to complain about fake females scamming you help article.

Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!

  Laibeus_Lord

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5/22/07 10:57:46 AM#29

I'm not a gurl, I'm a straight guy, but I don't agree with the #3 point. Real gurl players will say "fine", "okay", or just change the subject (if she knows you) or ignore you (if she doesn't know you). Why? Simple, to a gurl, why should she tell you what happened on her day unless you're one of her "circle" of friends or best friend?

If the gurl "talked" about her day after being asked out-of-the-blue, that is a guy.

Then this: 2. She's violent because it's "that time of the month"

Gurls are not "violent every day of the month", they are not beasts to be violent everyday. But I see your point, I think the examples you gave doesn't fit the point you are trying to make. Camping? KS'ing? A gurl on "that time of the month" is more likely to do just that because she is not feeling well. She is online either because she has to or because she wants to put her mind on something else via an MMO. If it isn't her "time of the month", she will take that effort to go out, quest, and be patient enough not to KS.

And I really don't know why it is #2, I haven't encountered any faker or even a real gurl giving that reason... "it's that time of the month".


Another: 5. She has to go and "wash her hair," "do her nails," etc.
You mixed a gurl activity to a general activity. Real gurls do say she's going to wash her hair, take a shower, and other general-type activities. What they do not "usually" say is "do her nails" and the like, "usually" because there are gurls who still tell those reasons, sometimes it isn't even true, just giving out a reason to log-off.


8. Too much pink ??
I don't think so. Maybe there in the US, but in other cultures, pink is "cuteness", "pretty-ness", especially for us Asians, even gurls will choose Pink if given a choice - yes, all-pink. We Asians also take care of how our characters look, and most Asian gamers (who are not farmers) are playing MMOs just for the vanity of it.


Finally this: most girls will take it (and say thank you if she's a lady)
Now, you as a guy just admitted that guys don't know how to say thank you. I beg to differ, I say thank you to people who helped me without me asking at all. Yes, even while running, fighting a mob, or getting PK'ed, I take time to say thank you, win or lose, live or die. A thank you is a thank you. Saying 'thank you' is not a gurl thing, it is universal. Either you were not raised by your parents to be good and respectful of others, even to a stranger (trust and respecting a stranger are two different things), or you are just lazy (lazy in the sense that, say you are multi-tasking or talking to a bunch of people, it will be hard to take time to say thank you of course).


Hey, its a good read. Just sharing my opinions. Also I do not know your experiences with guys playing a gurl character, but I'm sure you won't be able to detect me :p I had four characters in the past that is so believable, until now they still don't believe I own those characters :p

It was part of my experiments and studies about virtual world and MMOG in general. Hmm... you know, you gave me an idea for an article :p

Good read. :)

Other than myself, I also know a couple of guys who people will never believe they own the popular gurl character on their online game :p Almost all of us are "Role-Playing" Gamers, that explains our secret of perfecting it :p But no, we don't take advantage of people, and are straight guys :p hahaha... It's fun, I even Role-Played with a male character who later turned out to be a gurl IRL :p

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  User Deleted
5/22/07 10:58:02 AM#30
Originally posted by shae

The condescending generosity part has always made me laugh a little.

I've been part of guilds where they've had no idea I was female, I don't go out of my way to deny it or shove it anyones face. The second I jump on Vent for a raid (or whatever) the next time I log on I'll have a bunch of guys asking if I need help with this, that and the other.

Saying we've got it made though? That's a load of BS. If a guy says he's a guy in a guild chat, no one questions it, no one cares, he's just a gamer. If a girl says she's a girl in guild chat, the innevitable response is... prove it. In case you're wondering, the response to that is, bite me!

Oh and by the way, I never complain to people online, unless it's a friend and I genuinely have something to complain about. If someone asks me if I had a good day, and I had a good day, I'll say I had a good day. I'm not going ramble to just anyone without need. Way to hit on those stereotypes AJ.

I'm a man myself, and I just detest when vent "changes" after a girl logs on. Why can'we talk about playing on the toilet(this is a joke, if somebody is wondering) or tell a girl/woman she isn't doing something right or needs to improve her playing on Ventrilo?

Yes, I like to be quite the gentleman myself, but that doesn't mean  I'm not willing to disagree with or critisize a woman or girl when it is necessary. Generally, I've noticed that in real life the suckers who become totally selfless when around female company, are not very appealing to women. Also if you're too courteous, most women will not be impressed.
  Sinkael

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5/22/07 10:58:20 AM#31
One more thing, and yes I know I am guilty of it too in my previous post, but who the hell is this AJ person to make such broad assumptions for all women who play games? I mean did she poll a bunch of women? Where is her facts and statistics to back up her claims?

This should be labeled as an opinion piece and not as an article on gamer girls, because that is all it is, one womans opinion on what she wants. I know several women who play games who could fall on either side of those assumptions.

I mean, it would be like me posting an article on women in journalism and then making some broad assumptions about how female writers are constantly taking on persona's of their male counterparts. I mean, seriously, AJ is commonly seen as a males name, doing a job that was traditionally a male job, in a male dominate industry, who's first piece is about the sexist treatment of women in said industry.
Bah, I have piss and moaned enough, so I will just end with this plea to the MMORPG staff, please, stop with the opinion pieces and have your writers actually start posting NEWS, with FACTS to back it up.
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  evilastro

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5/22/07 10:58:30 AM#32

Originally posted by mxmissile

gender faker == wanna be transvestite

no other way to put it

sad but true

always has been, always will be

nothing else to say

 


someone who actually cares about real life gender = sad lonely dateless person looking for cyber sex

no other way to put it

sad but true

always has been, always will be

nothing else to say

  User Deleted
5/22/07 11:03:33 AM#33
Originally posted by premierebori
I just find a female form more pleasant to look at especially if you are going to spend many hours playing her.
I find this is generally true in real life as well.
  0over0

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5/22/07 11:03:59 AM#34

You know what would be truly ironic?

If the writer of this article were actually a guy, and using the persona of a female in order to get more responses to his writing....

Apply lemon juice and candle flame here to reveal secret message.

  elvenangel

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Why So Serious?

5/22/07 11:04:39 AM#35
Originally posted by Sinkael
One more thing, and yes I know I am guilty of it too in my previous post, but who the hell is this AJ person to make such broad assumptions for all women who play games? I mean did she poll a bunch of women? Where is her facts and statistics to back up her claims?

This should be labeled as an opinion piece and not as an article on gamer girls, because that is all it is, one womans opinion on what she wants. I know several women who play games who could fall on either side of those assumptions.

I mean, it would be like me posting an article on women in journalism and then making some broad assumptions about how female writers are constantly taking on persona's of their male counterparts. I mean, seriously, AJ is commonly seen as a males name, doing a job that was traditionally a male job, in a male dominate industry, who's first piece is about the sexist treatment of women in said industry.
Bah, I have piss and moaned enough, so I will just end with this plea to the MMORPG staff, please, stop with the opinion pieces and have your writers actually start posting NEWS, with FACTS to back it up.


Are we even reading the same article? Or are you simply hoping for a post count?  Its not about any of those things she's not making assumptions simple observations which in my opinion ARE correct since i've witnessed it myself and experienced some of it as a  gamer that is female.  You're not even female!

I dont know any true gamers (that are female) that fall on the 'bad side' of those assumpitions, a princess or two yea but only role play wise.  I know females that play games that DO fall on the 'bad side' but they're not true gamers.    The few that might fall on that side that are true gamers are far far far few and inbetween (extremely rare)

btw AJ is not commonly a male name, infact i've never known a male named AJ i've known two girls named AJ though.

Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!

  User Deleted
5/22/07 11:05:49 AM#36
Originally posted by evilastro

 

Originally posted by mxmissile

gender faker == wanna be transvestite

no other way to put it

sad but true

always has been, always will be

nothing else to say

 


someone who actually cares about real life gender = sad lonely dateless person looking for cyber sex

no other way to put it

sad but true

always has been, always will be

nothing else to say

The human ability to blatantly generalize never ceases to amaze me. (That goes for both of you goons! )

Sad but true.
Always has been, always will be.
Nothing else to say.
  ginatrout

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5/22/07 11:08:53 AM#37
Its almost a given that most of the girl toons out there are guys.  And although I never volunteer my gender ingame, for the most part most guys leave me alone even though I roll girl toons exclusively.  Yeah, guys will give me things and ask if I need help.  In general though, its a shock to most guys, nevermind if I've been raiding with the same people for months, that I'm a woman. 

That is not to say that women gamers are all serious, I mean I've done my share of naked dances or two with people.  However, I had this same discussion with an ingame friend of mine, another woman, and we both agreed that no woman would take her girl toon to a capitol and dance naked on top of the mailbox for money.

I think its important to note that women as well as men are human and that you shouldn't make generalizations on how women behave online.  We are made up of individual people you know...and I know my share of  "guild princesses" along with some awesome smart women gamers.
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  AshGUTZ

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5/22/07 11:09:04 AM#38

Hm, considering I was in a guild for about 7 months on World of Warcraft that I had to actually work in, I find these specifications hard to believe.

I, just as everyone else, was online at 12 PM sharp to begin raid preparations. I maybe got ONE new epic bi-weekly. As far as my epic mount, I was able to purchase that myself at Level 60 Ding because I made the money myself from selling crap on the Auction House.

Just because most girls are annoying little jail baits that want you to show them how to move with WASD doesn't mean they all are.

  reaphsharc

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5/22/07 11:12:17 AM#39
In any MMO I automatically assume a female character is 'driven' by a male gamer, unless I learn otherwise. And often enough, the girls have some of the toughest chars I've met ingame and I find myself suprised to learn the gamer behind the char is a girl (or woman!) in real life. For example, the best darn Fleet Commander in my entire EvE alliance is a woman and there is not a guy around that can come near her superior expertise in setting up a fleet of pilots, pointing their noses towards the same goal and leading them into and during a battle. And without ever 'acting like a girl'.

I roll women chars as often as I do male ones and I never make it a secret to anyone that I am a guy.
And I never hit on the female populous of the MMO's I play, my wife won't allow it
  Sinkael

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5/22/07 11:12:36 AM#40
Originally posted by elvenangel
Originally posted by Sinkael
One more thing, and yes I know I am guilty of it too in my previous post, but who the hell is this AJ person to make such broad assumptions for all women who play games? I mean did she poll a bunch of women? Where is her facts and statistics to back up her claims?

This should be labeled as an opinion piece and not as an article on gamer girls, because that is all it is, one womans opinion on what she wants. I know several women who play games who could fall on either side of those assumptions.

I mean, it would be like me posting an article on women in journalism and then making some broad assumptions about how female writers are constantly taking on persona's of their male counterparts. I mean, seriously, AJ is commonly seen as a males name, doing a job that was traditionally a male job, in a male dominate industry, who's first piece is about the sexist treatment of women in said industry.
Bah, I have piss and moaned enough, so I will just end with this plea to the MMORPG staff, please, stop with the opinion pieces and have your writers actually start posting NEWS, with FACTS to back it up.


Are we even reading the same article? Or are you simply hoping for a post count?  Its not about any of those things she's not making assumptions simple observations which in my opinion ARE correct since i've witnessed it myself and experienced some of it as a  gamer that is female.  You're not even female!

btw AJ is not commonly a male name, infact i've never known a male named AJ i've known two girls named AJ though.


I wonder if we are reading the same article, the one I read listed eight things that this person has observed, formed an opinion about and then touted her opinion as fact for all women. Perhaps you should go back and reread the article, each point in the article is an opinion, an assumption, just because you agree with them, does not make them fact. Now perhaps you can point out the place where AJ listed her sources or the poll she used to reference her "facts".

As for the AJ reference, my "fact" is as valid as the authors, I don't need any statistics or references to back it up, I said it was true, therefore it must be true.
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