It's not vaporware, but it's got some serious problems.

Anyone looking for the salvation for MMOs should just keep looking, they won't find it here.

My 'friend' wanted to love this game, but it's just not good.

Actually a game can become vaporware even after it reachs beta.WISH is a great example.

Until it hits retail, it can become vaporware.Retail is the line it needs to cross.

Now,notice very clearly i make NO comment about whether or not the game fits the mentioned description.

All i do say, is that its not free of the possibility of becoming vaporware (no matter how likely or unlikely) TIL it goes retail.

I'm not familiar with Wish.  Of course, a project can be cancelled before it reaches production (like Starcraft Ghost) but that doesn't qualify as it vaporware either -- Blizzard didn't actively market it after cancelling it.

Originally posted by tkobo

Actually a game can become vaporware even after it reachs beta.WISH is a great example.

Until it hits retail, it can become vaporware.Retail is the line it needs to cross.

Now,notice very clearly i make NO comment about whether or not the game fits the mentioned description.

All i do say, is that its not free of the possibility of becoming vaporware (no matter how likely or unlikely) TIL it goes retail.

Well, wish would have been pretty dead in the water anyway,even if it had reached retail .It would have very likely  performed just a little better than Irth did.

Sometimes games should become vaporware.Irth should have.

And agian, please note i make NO reference to PotBS's statis, or what its fate is,should,or will be

Originally posted by teabag

Just got Beta invited and they wanted CREDIT CARD NUMBERS for proof of age...

Okay so be it, i am far older than 18 and surely will not show these so called VAPORWARE crooks my credit card numbers.

Dream on spotty, move along nothing much to see here.

Just because there are some people that will actually believe his statement - Teabag {mod edit}

This game is not vaporware, and people need to stop making outrageous claims about EVERY game that's being looked forward to.  Vaporware is a claim used on games that have not released much if any information, because there is very little proof that the company is actually working to create a game.. thus, a game does not exist in the state that they claim.

FLS has done a very good job of releasing screenshots, and allowing people to play the game at the different conferences they go to.  There are many videos from conferences floating around the internet that give a lot of information and gameplay footage to prove that the game is not vaporware.

Anyone claiming that it is vaporware is a full blown idiot.  This isn't a case of "fanboi-ism".  It's a case of looking at information and videos, and finding proof to disprove these claims.  You have the internet, and most of you have a brain.  Use both, and actually do some research before getting your panties up your crack and accusing a game of being vaporware.

Delayed release dates are -not- a sign of vaporware either.  Again, stop mis-using the term vaporware.   Wish wasn't vaporware - It was a game that very much existed and the few people that played it loved it.  It was a game that got canceled because the company didn't see enough support.  A game being canceled is a very different thing than being vaporware and simply not existing.

Getting pretty sick of idiots claiming a game to be vaporware just because it's still in a beta phase.  It's like you're angry because you didn't get picked for beta so you're going to make stupid claims and try to get people against it.

vaporware

Main Entry: va·por·ware
Pronunciation: vay'pr-weir
Function: noun

: A computer-related product that has been widely publicized far in advance of any release but has not and may never become available.

: Vaporware (also called vapourware) is software or hardware which is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge, either with or without a protracted development cycle. The term implies deception, or at least a negligent degree of optimism; that is, it implies that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility.

A true example of vaporware is the much anticipated MMO Star Trek Online (www.startrekonline.com), still in the early pre-production (conceptual) stage after 2 and a half years with nothing to show for it but some 2D and 3D conceptual renderings. This game still does not have a full featured web site.

Nevermind, Now I understood where the paranoid mod come from.

You have been teabagged.

If a game is vaporware does in come in an inhaler?

Avast ye swabs, lay off the bongwater! Arrrrrrrrrrrr

man i need a filter on these forums against the following:

vapourware

viral marketing

noob

1337

list can go on.

well   hmm no

im in beta

While it is true that it could potentially become vaporware before it finishes beta, I highly doubt it.  I believe WISH was canceled under certain extreme circumstances that we do not know.  Whatever sprung up during beta, it was apparent that it was unexpected.  So unless FL discovers something drastically flawed with the game between and release, I don't think it will be canceled.  I was also under the impression taht they have signed a publishing deal and just can't speak about it until everything is finalized.