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  Jaryd

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Joined: 11/27/04
Posts: 62

Every one has an opinion. It is unrealistic to expect them
to coincide exactly with your own.

5/08/07 8:54:02 AM#21

I have played both. Though I confess I only did the free trial in LOTRO.  The story seemed much more detailed in LOTRO.  With cut-away clips to give you more feel.  Amount of quests in an area seemed to go to LORTO but  these quests contained many (my own opinion here) stupid filler quests.  Postman and Pie collection quests in the Hobbit area entail much running around making deliveries. Not so much a quest as an activity to help you get to know the lay of the land.

Now not having opted to play the game past free trial I do not know if it is intentional to have those first 15 levels so easy to reach. I did it on day 3 of the game. I took the extra time to reach one of the highest level areas of the map, Angmar.  I did that because they seemed to forget to put a cap on minning and crafting.  My main concern was if its this easy how fast will I hit 50 and be bored? (As I am of WOW by the way) Do I want to leave behind the friends I have made in WOW the past 3 months?  I may have maxed out but I do have a tight  knot of friends in the guild. So i opt4ed to remain in WoW for 2 simple reasons. Friendships that have deveoped way beyond gamming and the pre-paid game cards (Don't end up paying interest charges)

 

Both games (and many others before and in developement) are pretty much the same.  Grind you butt off on progressivly harder NPC's . Waste your time to gather materials for a crafting process that is basically just point and make. Player A does  function X 3000 times and player Z does same function 3000 times. Result?  Both players are twins.  Same as 90,000 others that have done the same number of steps. The simularities  between games are numerous. But then again there are only so many ways to do something. Both games give you limited choices. Games now lean towards a set template for a character type making sure were are all good little round pegs to fit into thier limited vision of round holes.

So now what do you base your choice on? Yourself!  Only you can know what you really like. So don't be lazy and let other steer your decision. Sit down and read up on both games. Get a feel for how the game runs and what features  appeal to you most.  Take travel in these two games.  Flying on a bird in WOW actually seeing live game content as you fly over them is a fantastic idea.  On the down side. your 1000th trip is going to be a real bore. Specially on the long distance trips.  Lotro horseback is a waste of an idea. Hop on ride a few feet and poof you are doing the last few feet of the ride.  May as well left it to the magic gates cause it is still a teleport.

Personally both games brought me about equal amounts of enjoyment. Lotro had an edge in the story line. WoW runs and performs better on my system than LOTRO.

Good Luck on whatever game you decide to play. I hope you enjoy yourself.

  xuanzang

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Joined: 10/10/06
Posts: 6

 
5/08/07 9:33:58 AM#22
Woah! the WoW supporters are here!! Ok, so much post. Hmm can i ask u guys something? Do I need to buy the 1st WoW  and WoW BC to play with the others or Do i need to buy WoW BC only? And also for WoW, can i train a character @ the 1st WoW then move on the BC? Ahh i dont know the name for the 1st WoW. lolx sry for bad english. Ok... As for LOTRO,hmm yea it is worth trying out it is also cheaper...But which game require a better spec of my comp,Lotro Or Wow.Scared of lag if i go for the higher Spec game
  Galendor

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Joined: 5/02/07
Posts: 10

5/08/07 9:52:37 AM#23
Originally posted by Jaryd

Both games (and many others before and in developement) are pretty much the same.  Grind you butt off on progressivly harder NPC's . .

While I do agree that both games require grinding, just like any other game of this type, LOTR, imo, makes grinding more fun. You don't just grind for exp and loot but also for titles and traits. Titles are just that, but traits actually can increase stats for players in many different categories.

Originally posted by Jaryd

Waste your time to gather materials for a crafting process that is basically just point and make.

Let me preface this by saying I dislike crafting in any game. While I do agree that it is just a point and make operation, it makes crafting more bareable for those of us that do not like to craft. In LOTR in order to make the better items you need to work with other types of crafters, thus increasing the interaction between the players. Again this of course is just my opinion

Galendor

  Sethon

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Joined: 5/07/07
Posts: 11

5/08/07 9:56:14 AM#24
Because it IS a WoW clone. I've played since before release. It is WoW. Same quest system, classes, and skills. It's a clone, mates. Unless you're a fan of WoW, you shouldn't join this game.
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  SlickShoes

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/01/06
Posts: 341

5/08/07 10:13:03 AM#25
Originally posted by Sethon
Because it IS a WoW clone. I've played since before release. It is WoW. Same quest system, classes, and skills. It's a clone, mates. Unless you're a fan of WoW, you shouldn't join this game.
What is the quest system that it has stolen? Most MMORPGs have quests to do, also it has none of the classes that WoW has! i doubt you have even played this game!

Currently playing Torchlight

  Gameloading

Novice Member

Joined: 2/27/04
Posts: 14172

5/08/07 10:27:56 AM#26
Originally posted by SlickShoes
Originally posted by Sethon
Because it IS a WoW clone. I've played since before release. It is WoW. Same quest system, classes, and skills. It's a clone, mates. Unless you're a fan of WoW, you shouldn't join this game.
What is the quest system that it has stolen? Most MMORPGs have quests to do, also it has none of the classes that WoW has! i doubt you have even played this game!
Actually it does, Lotro has the standard classes with a new name tagged on it.
  Amstel

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Joined: 5/08/07
Posts: 61

5/08/07 10:37:23 AM#27
At least WoW has a  PVP system in place. They have arenas, battlegrounds, and world PvP. There are good rewards for PvPing at a high level (gladiator gear). It beats the hell out of LOTRO monster play. In WOW the pvp is actually competitive.
  Ruthgar

Novice Member

Joined: 7/24/06
Posts: 730

5/08/07 10:42:04 AM#28
Why didn't you ask, which game was better at launch.
Comparing an MMO that was just released to one that has been out 2 1/2 years kind is kind of biased.
Still after playing WoW since US release and LOTRO since Beta 1 in Sept, I say LOTRO.

LOTRO is not a WoW clone, it's UI is closer to AC2 and DDO.

Calling LOTRO a WoW clone is like calling  Star Wars a Star Trek clone. Both have a moral message, set in outer space.
Similar, but not a clone.
  Antipathy

Novice Member

Joined: 3/29/06
Posts: 1349

5/08/07 10:44:59 AM#29
Originally posted by xuanzang
Woah! the WoW supporters are here!! Ok, so much post. Hmm can i ask u guys something? Do I need to buy the 1st WoW  and WoW BC to play with the others or Do i need to buy WoW BC only? And also for WoW, can i train a character @ the 1st WoW then move on the BC? Ahh i dont know the name for the 1st WoW. lolx sry for bad english. Ok... As for LOTRO,hmm yea it is worth trying out it is also cheaper...But which game require a better spec of my comp,Lotro Or Wow.Scared of lag if i go for the higher Spec game

You need to own a  copy of the original "World of Warcraft" in order to play the expansion. However a lot of the material in the expansion is optional and you don't need to own the expansion until high levels.

So buy the original game. Create a character or two and start playing. If you still enjoy it by the time you reach level 58 then buy the expansion.
  Cabe2323

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Joined: 8/03/06
Posts: 2953

The nine most terrifying words are: I''m from the government and I''m here to help. -Reagan

5/08/07 10:46:09 AM#30
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by SlickShoes
Originally posted by Sethon
Because it IS a WoW clone. I've played since before release. It is WoW. Same quest system, classes, and skills. It's a clone, mates. Unless you're a fan of WoW, you shouldn't join this game.
What is the quest system that it has stolen? Most MMORPGs have quests to do, also it has none of the classes that WoW has! i doubt you have even played this game!
Actually it does, Lotro has the standard classes with a new name tagged on it.

 

 

Neither of GL's Comments are true,  First off LOTRO has more quests and content then WoW had at release.  Also, LOTRO is adding a whole new area in their first free upgrade in June that will add another 60+ quests.  Bringing their total number of quests to the 1700 range.  Secondly, The classes are not the standard classes with a new name tagged on.  There is no Magic Nuker class in this game.  The Burglar does not equal the Rogue of WoW.  His DPS is actually low and he is a mob debuffer/crow control plus he gets a skill to start fellowship maneveurs(sp?).  The Tank class is the guardian and is similar to any tank/melee class in any game.  The Captain class is a group buffer/Pet/DPS/healer class, I personally play a Captain (Im level 29 atm) and I have MTed and been the only healer in a group for blue/white fellowship quests before and completed the quests.  The Hunter class in the Range/DPS class, he gets no pet, and his melee skills are a lot better then in WoW.   The champion is sort of like a WoW Fury warrior, but he is different.  The minstril is the Mainhealer, but also is a melee fighter, unlike in WoW where the Mainheler can also be a huge Nuker class(shadowpriest).  The quests are much better done in LOTRO then in WoW.  Especially if you actually read the quests etc. 

If you are the type to plow through the levels as fast as you can then don't play either game.  You will absolutely hate WoW and LOTRO if you are a powerleveler.  WoW gets super boring unless you get into a ultra high raiding guild, but in order to do that make sure you can raid atleast 5 nights a week for atleast 4-6 hours per night.  If you don't have that type of structured time to devote to WoW, then forget about the game.  You won't get to see most of the high end content then. 

If you are a powergamer but don't have the structured play time to devote to raiding you are kind of SOL.  If you are a PVPer then hold out and wait for WAR or AoC.  WoW's PVP is too gear based and if you don't have the high end raid gear you get wiped.  We are not talking about a slight difference in power.  We are talking about a high end gear equipped player taking out 4-6 same level but less equipped players. 

But if you do have the time to devote to raiding and love to flex your Epeen then WoW is the best game for you.

Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)

Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)

  Cabe2323

Novice Member

Joined: 8/03/06
Posts: 2953

The nine most terrifying words are: I''m from the government and I''m here to help. -Reagan

5/08/07 10:53:37 AM#31
Originally posted by Amstel
At least WoW has a  PVP system in place. They have arenas, battlegrounds, and world PvP. There are good rewards for PvPing at a high level (gladiator gear). It beats the hell out of LOTRO monster play. In WOW the pvp is actually competitive.

Competitive?  That is laughable.  Guild Wars is competitive.  WoW's PVP system focuses way too much on GEAR.  Really all they need to do is at the beginning of a BG scan the players and the team with the best GEAR automatically just gets teh win.  You can't overcome the gear advantage of raiders unless you have the time to grind out raid gear yourself or can grind out PVP gear.  But grinding out PVP gear will be painful since your gear will suck comparitively for quite awhile. 

Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)

Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)

  Antipathy

Novice Member

Joined: 3/29/06
Posts: 1349

5/08/07 10:53:43 AM#32
Originally posted by mcharj11

Lotro uses it's classes better than most games including WoW. For instance in WoW fury warriors are afforded little time and rarelyuget to do any dps in endgame and therefor are relegated to the off-tank. In Lotro though the champion ( similar to fury warrior ) is the second highest dpser and the does the most aoe damage. Captains are also done very well with their buffs and aoe heals.

Guess that's good if all you enjoy playing is DPS warriors, although you will rapidly find that champions and hunters are the most overplayed classes, and you will still struggle for places in instances/raids at higher levels.

I find classes in LoTRO to be far less varied than their WoW equivalents. There are fewer classes and members of each class differ less from eachother. Deeds don't customise a character nearly as much as talent points - a champion is a champion, whilst in WoW there could be vast differences within a class e.g. playing a feral druid is very different to playing a resto druid or a moonkin.
  Gameloading

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Joined: 2/27/04
Posts: 14172

5/08/07 10:58:26 AM#33
Originally posted by Cabe2323
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by SlickShoes
Originally posted by Sethon
Because it IS a WoW clone. I've played since before release. It is WoW. Same quest system, classes, and skills. It's a clone, mates. Unless you're a fan of WoW, you shouldn't join this game.
What is the quest system that it has stolen? Most MMORPGs have quests to do, also it has none of the classes that WoW has! i doubt you have even played this game!
Actually it does, Lotro has the standard classes with a new name tagged on it.

 

 

Neither of GL's Comments are true,  First off LOTRO has more quests and content then WoW had at release.  Also, LOTRO is adding a whole new area in their first free upgrade in June that will add another 60+ quests.  Bringing their total number of quests to the 1700 range.  Secondly, The classes are not the standard classes with a new name tagged on.  There is no Magic Nuker class in this game.  The Burglar does not equal the Rogue of WoW.  His DPS is actually low and he is a mob debuffer/crow control plus he gets a skill to start fellowship maneveurs(sp?).  The Tank class is the guardian and is similar to any tank/melee class in any game.  The Captain class is a group buffer/Pet/DPS/healer class, I personally play a Captain (Im level 29 atm) and I have MTed and been the only healer in a group for blue/white fellowship quests before and completed the quests.  The Hunter class in the Range/DPS class, he gets no pet, and his melee skills are a lot better then in WoW.   The champion is sort of like a WoW Fury warrior, but he is different.  The minstril is the Mainhealer, but also is a melee fighter, unlike in WoW where the Mainheler can also be a huge Nuker class(shadowpriest).  The quests are much better done in LOTRO then in WoW.  Especially if you actually read the quests etc. 

If you are the type to plow through the levels as fast as you can then don't play either game.  You will absolutely hate WoW and LOTRO if you are a powerleveler.  WoW gets super boring unless you get into a ultra high raiding guild, but in order to do that make sure you can raid atleast 5 nights a week for atleast 4-6 hours per night.  If you don't have that type of structured time to devote to WoW, then forget about the game.  You won't get to see most of the high end content then. 

If you are a powergamer but don't have the structured play time to devote to raiding you are kind of SOL.  If you are a PVPer then hold out and wait for WAR or AoC.  WoW's PVP is too gear based and if you don't have the high end raid gear you get wiped.  We are not talking about a slight difference in power.  We are talking about a high end gear equipped player taking out 4-6 same level but less equipped players. 

But if you do have the time to devote to raiding and love to flex your Epeen then WoW is the best game for you.

First of all, I can prove that Lotro was aimed for the WoW crowd, and you can't attracts the same audience if you don't create the same game, its impossible, so that settles for my first comment.

Moving on, the warrior is the basic Warrior, which is the same like WoW. The hunter class is simply Lotro's way of having a damage dealing class. In fact, it is VERY similar to the hunter class in WoW. Ministral is the healer, and the burglar is a rogue, save a few twists. the gameplay is exactly the same.
  Cabe2323

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Posts: 2953

The nine most terrifying words are: I''m from the government and I''m here to help. -Reagan

5/08/07 11:03:59 AM#34
Originally posted by Antipathy
Originally posted by mcharj11

Lotro uses it's classes better than most games including WoW. For instance in WoW fury warriors are afforded little time and rarelyuget to do any dps in endgame and therefor are relegated to the off-tank. In Lotro though the champion ( similar to fury warrior ) is the second highest dpser and the does the most aoe damage. Captains are also done very well with their buffs and aoe heals.

Guess that's good if all you enjoy playing is DPS warriors, although you will rapidly find that champions and hunters are the most overplayed classes, and you will still struggle for places in instances/raids at higher levels.

I find classes in LoTRO to be far less varied than their WoW equivalents. There are fewer classes and members of each class differ less from eachother. Deeds don't customise a character nearly as much as talent points - a champion is a champion, whilst in WoW there could be vast differences within a class e.g. playing a feral druid is very different to playing a resto druid or a moonkin.


Also, completely not true.  I can customize my Captain through the use of Traits (from the Deed System) to be a better DPS class, or a Better Tank class, or a better Healer, or a Hybrid.  There is more customization with the trait system then with talent points.  While you use more talent points compared to slots for traits, there were only a few different viable talent specs for each class in WoW.    I would generally have the same exact gear as other people of the same class as there wasn't a lot of gear choices to make.  If you try to be something different forget high end raiding, since all high end raid guilds will only choose certain talent specs for the classes.   I remember when a Feral druid on our server grinded out Rank 14 and had the Grand Marshal equipment.  He still couldn't get into a Raiding guild unless he changed to Resto Druid. 

Like I said before WoW is a great game if you have the time to devote to High end instances and raiding.  Or it is a great game if you really truely dont care about your gear or play so little you won't ever hit the level cap.   But if you are the type of player that doesn't have the time to devote to raiding, but wants to have great gear then forget about the game.  Also, if you love to PVP competively and don't have the time to devote to getting great gear then don't bother with the game. 

Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)

Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)

  Cabe2323

Novice Member

Joined: 8/03/06
Posts: 2953

The nine most terrifying words are: I''m from the government and I''m here to help. -Reagan

5/08/07 11:11:42 AM#35
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by Cabe2323
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by SlickShoes
Originally posted by Sethon
Because it IS a WoW clone. I've played since before release. It is WoW. Same quest system, classes, and skills. It's a clone, mates. Unless you're a fan of WoW, you shouldn't join this game.
What is the quest system that it has stolen? Most MMORPGs have quests to do, also it has none of the classes that WoW has! i doubt you have even played this game!
Actually it does, Lotro has the standard classes with a new name tagged on it.

 

 

Neither of GL's Comments are true,  First off LOTRO has more quests and content then WoW had at release.  Also, LOTRO is adding a whole new area in their first free upgrade in June that will add another 60+ quests.  Bringing their total number of quests to the 1700 range.  Secondly, The classes are not the standard classes with a new name tagged on.  There is no Magic Nuker class in this game.  The Burglar does not equal the Rogue of WoW.  His DPS is actually low and he is a mob debuffer/crow control plus he gets a skill to start fellowship maneveurs(sp?).  The Tank class is the guardian and is similar to any tank/melee class in any game.  The Captain class is a group buffer/Pet/DPS/healer class, I personally play a Captain (Im level 29 atm) and I have MTed and been the only healer in a group for blue/white fellowship quests before and completed the quests.  The Hunter class in the Range/DPS class, he gets no pet, and his melee skills are a lot better then in WoW.   The champion is sort of like a WoW Fury warrior, but he is different.  The minstril is the Mainhealer, but also is a melee fighter, unlike in WoW where the Mainheler can also be a huge Nuker class(shadowpriest).  The quests are much better done in LOTRO then in WoW.  Especially if you actually read the quests etc. 

If you are the type to plow through the levels as fast as you can then don't play either game.  You will absolutely hate WoW and LOTRO if you are a powerleveler.  WoW gets super boring unless you get into a ultra high raiding guild, but in order to do that make sure you can raid atleast 5 nights a week for atleast 4-6 hours per night.  If you don't have that type of structured time to devote to WoW, then forget about the game.  You won't get to see most of the high end content then. 

If you are a powergamer but don't have the structured play time to devote to raiding you are kind of SOL.  If you are a PVPer then hold out and wait for WAR or AoC.  WoW's PVP is too gear based and if you don't have the high end raid gear you get wiped.  We are not talking about a slight difference in power.  We are talking about a high end gear equipped player taking out 4-6 same level but less equipped players. 

But if you do have the time to devote to raiding and love to flex your Epeen then WoW is the best game for you.

First of all, I can prove that Lotro was aimed for the WoW crowd, and you can't attracts the same audience if you don't create the same game, its impossible, so that settles for my first comment.

Moving on, the warrior is the basic Warrior, which is the same like WoW. The hunter class is simply Lotro's way of having a damage dealing class. In fact, it is VERY similar to the hunter class in WoW. Ministral is the healer, and the burglar is a rogue, save a few twists. the gameplay is exactly the same.

Lol that quote from Codemasters is rediculous ever game company is aiming to take some of WoW's Market share.  Taht doesn't mean they are clones.  Brad said he is hoping to get players from WoW, does that make VG a clone?  So really you didn't settle your comment.  It is just plain silly to say that just because they want the same audience means they are making the same game.  Is Harry Potter the same movie as a Spiderman?  But wait they are aiming at the same audience so they must be.  Is Star Wars identical to Star Trek?  But wait again they are aiming at the same audience.  So see your comment isn't proven nor is it settled. 

And no the burglar is nothing like a rogue.  In WoW the rogues roll is massive melee DPS.  The burglar is nothing like that they are a debuff class/crowd control class with mediocre DPS.   And how on earth is the Mistril the same as a priest?  Is a priest a melee class who plays instruments to buff their group and heal them? 

So I guess in your mind WoW is identical to EQ1 since that was the market they were trying to get.  Those were the audience they wanted to steal.  And the classes in WoW must be the same as EQ1 as well.  I mean man they are fantasy classes with healers, DPS classes and Tanks.  It must be a clone!!!

Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)

Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)

  Cabe2323

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5/08/07 11:13:43 AM#36
Originally posted by mcharj11
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by Cabe2323
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by SlickShoes
Originally posted by Sethon
Because it IS a WoW clone. I've played since before release. It is WoW. Same quest system, classes, and skills. It's a clone, mates. Unless you're a fan of WoW, you shouldn't join this game.
What is the quest system that it has stolen? Most MMORPGs have quests to do, also it has none of the classes that WoW has! i doubt you have even played this game!
Actually it does, Lotro has the standard classes with a new name tagged on it.

 

 

Neither of GL's Comments are true,  First off LOTRO has more quests and content then WoW had at release.  Also, LOTRO is adding a whole new area in their first free upgrade in June that will add another 60+ quests.  Bringing their total number of quests to the 1700 range.  Secondly, The classes are not the standard classes with a new name tagged on.  There is no Magic Nuker class in this game.  The Burglar does not equal the Rogue of WoW.  His DPS is actually low and he is a mob debuffer/crow control plus he gets a skill to start fellowship maneveurs(sp?).  The Tank class is the guardian and is similar to any tank/melee class in any game.  The Captain class is a group buffer/Pet/DPS/healer class, I personally play a Captain (Im level 29 atm) and I have MTed and been the only healer in a group for blue/white fellowship quests before and completed the quests.  The Hunter class in the Range/DPS class, he gets no pet, and his melee skills are a lot better then in WoW.   The champion is sort of like a WoW Fury warrior, but he is different.  The minstril is the Mainhealer, but also is a melee fighter, unlike in WoW where the Mainheler can also be a huge Nuker class(shadowpriest).  The quests are much better done in LOTRO then in WoW.  Especially if you actually read the quests etc. 

If you are the type to plow through the levels as fast as you can then don't play either game.  You will absolutely hate WoW and LOTRO if you are a powerleveler.  WoW gets super boring unless you get into a ultra high raiding guild, but in order to do that make sure you can raid atleast 5 nights a week for atleast 4-6 hours per night.  If you don't have that type of structured time to devote to WoW, then forget about the game.  You won't get to see most of the high end content then. 

If you are a powergamer but don't have the structured play time to devote to raiding you are kind of SOL.  If you are a PVPer then hold out and wait for WAR or AoC.  WoW's PVP is too gear based and if you don't have the high end raid gear you get wiped.  We are not talking about a slight difference in power.  We are talking about a high end gear equipped player taking out 4-6 same level but less equipped players. 

But if you do have the time to devote to raiding and love to flex your Epeen then WoW is the best game for you.

First of all, I can prove that Lotro was aimed for the WoW crowd, and you can't attracts the same audience if you don't create the same game, its impossible, so that settles for my first comment.

Moving on, the warrior is the basic Warrior, which is the same like WoW. The hunter class is simply Lotro's way of having a damage dealing class. In fact, it is VERY similar to the hunter class in WoW. Ministral is the healer, and the burglar is a rogue, save a few twists. the gameplay is exactly the same.
 I don't understand why turbine decided to call it hunter when it should be ranger just like the books.
My guess would be Ranger is too closely associated with Aragorn and his fellow rangers.  They might not of had a very good class balance if they called them Rangers and made them to play like Aragorn did.  I think the based the Hunter more on Legalos of course and he wasn't a Ranger. 

Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)

Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)

  Quingu

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5/08/07 11:24:27 AM#37
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by Cabe2323
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by SlickShoes
Originally posted by Sethon
Because it IS a WoW clone. I've played since before release. It is WoW. Same quest system, classes, and skills. It's a clone, mates. Unless you're a fan of WoW, you shouldn't join this game.
What is the quest system that it has stolen? Most MMORPGs have quests to do, also it has none of the classes that WoW has! i doubt you have even played this game!
Actually it does, Lotro has the standard classes with a new name tagged on it.

 

 

Neither of GL's Comments are true,  First off LOTRO has more quests and content then WoW had at release.  Also, LOTRO is adding a whole new area in their first free upgrade in June that will add another 60+ quests.  Bringing their total number of quests to the 1700 range.  Secondly, The classes are not the standard classes with a new name tagged on.  There is no Magic Nuker class in this game.  The Burglar does not equal the Rogue of WoW.  His DPS is actually low and he is a mob debuffer/crow control plus he gets a skill to start fellowship maneveurs(sp?).  The Tank class is the guardian and is similar to any tank/melee class in any game.  The Captain class is a group buffer/Pet/DPS/healer class, I personally play a Captain (Im level 29 atm) and I have MTed and been the only healer in a group for blue/white fellowship quests before and completed the quests.  The Hunter class in the Range/DPS class, he gets no pet, and his melee skills are a lot better then in WoW.   The champion is sort of like a WoW Fury warrior, but he is different.  The minstril is the Mainhealer, but also is a melee fighter, unlike in WoW where the Mainheler can also be a huge Nuker class(shadowpriest).  The quests are much better done in LOTRO then in WoW.  Especially if you actually read the quests etc. 

If you are the type to plow through the levels as fast as you can then don't play either game.  You will absolutely hate WoW and LOTRO if you are a powerleveler.  WoW gets super boring unless you get into a ultra high raiding guild, but in order to do that make sure you can raid atleast 5 nights a week for atleast 4-6 hours per night.  If you don't have that type of structured time to devote to WoW, then forget about the game.  You won't get to see most of the high end content then. 

If you are a powergamer but don't have the structured play time to devote to raiding you are kind of SOL.  If you are a PVPer then hold out and wait for WAR or AoC.  WoW's PVP is too gear based and if you don't have the high end raid gear you get wiped.  We are not talking about a slight difference in power.  We are talking about a high end gear equipped player taking out 4-6 same level but less equipped players. 

But if you do have the time to devote to raiding and love to flex your Epeen then WoW is the best game for you.

First of all, I can prove that Lotro was aimed for the WoW crowd, and you can't attracts the same audience if you don't create the same game, its impossible, so that settles for my first comment.

Moving on, the warrior is the basic Warrior, which is the same like WoW. The hunter class is simply Lotro's way of having a damage dealing class. In fact, it is VERY similar to the hunter class in WoW. Ministral is the healer, and the burglar is a rogue, save a few twists. the gameplay is exactly the same.

lol you don't know nothing about LOTRO  classes  you didn't even play the game. so you can't prove nada. and burglar isn't a rogue.
  Gameloading

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5/08/07 11:36:55 AM#38
Originally posted by Cabe2323
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by Cabe2323
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by SlickShoes
Originally posted by Sethon
Because it IS a WoW clone. I've played since before release. It is WoW. Same quest system, classes, and skills. It's a clone, mates. Unless you're a fan of WoW, you shouldn't join this game.
What is the quest system that it has stolen? Most MMORPGs have quests to do, also it has none of the classes that WoW has! i doubt you have even played this game!
Actually it does, Lotro has the standard classes with a new name tagged on it.

 

 

Neither of GL's Comments are true,  First off LOTRO has more quests and content then WoW had at release.  Also, LOTRO is adding a whole new area in their first free upgrade in June that will add another 60+ quests.  Bringing their total number of quests to the 1700 range.  Secondly, The classes are not the standard classes with a new name tagged on.  There is no Magic Nuker class in this game.  The Burglar does not equal the Rogue of WoW.  His DPS is actually low and he is a mob debuffer/crow control plus he gets a skill to start fellowship maneveurs(sp?).  The Tank class is the guardian and is similar to any tank/melee class in any game.  The Captain class is a group buffer/Pet/DPS/healer class, I personally play a Captain (Im level 29 atm) and I have MTed and been the only healer in a group for blue/white fellowship quests before and completed the quests.  The Hunter class in the Range/DPS class, he gets no pet, and his melee skills are a lot better then in WoW.   The champion is sort of like a WoW Fury warrior, but he is different.  The minstril is the Mainhealer, but also is a melee fighter, unlike in WoW where the Mainheler can also be a huge Nuker class(shadowpriest).  The quests are much better done in LOTRO then in WoW.  Especially if you actually read the quests etc. 

If you are the type to plow through the levels as fast as you can then don't play either game.  You will absolutely hate WoW and LOTRO if you are a powerleveler.  WoW gets super boring unless you get into a ultra high raiding guild, but in order to do that make sure you can raid atleast 5 nights a week for atleast 4-6 hours per night.  If you don't have that type of structured time to devote to WoW, then forget about the game.  You won't get to see most of the high end content then. 

If you are a powergamer but don't have the structured play time to devote to raiding you are kind of SOL.  If you are a PVPer then hold out and wait for WAR or AoC.  WoW's PVP is too gear based and if you don't have the high end raid gear you get wiped.  We are not talking about a slight difference in power.  We are talking about a high end gear equipped player taking out 4-6 same level but less equipped players. 

But if you do have the time to devote to raiding and love to flex your Epeen then WoW is the best game for you.

First of all, I can prove that Lotro was aimed for the WoW crowd, and you can't attracts the same audience if you don't create the same game, its impossible, so that settles for my first comment.

Moving on, the warrior is the basic Warrior, which is the same like WoW. The hunter class is simply Lotro's way of having a damage dealing class. In fact, it is VERY similar to the hunter class in WoW. Ministral is the healer, and the burglar is a rogue, save a few twists. the gameplay is exactly the same.

Lol that quote from Codemasters is rediculous ever game company is aiming to take some of WoW's Market share.  Taht doesn't mean they are clones.  Brad said he is hoping to get players from WoW, does that make VG a clone?  So really you didn't settle your comment.  It is just plain silly to say that just because they want the same audience means they are making the same game.  Is Harry Potter the same movie as a Spiderman?  But wait they are aiming at the same audience so they must be.  Is Star Wars identical to Star Trek?  But wait again they are aiming at the same audience.  So see your comment isn't proven nor is it settled.

The difference is that Brad CLEARLY stated that Vanguard is going for the old Everquest crowd. Sure they were expecting for some WoW players, but the Casual crowd was NOT the audience for Vanguard. CM on the other hand has clearly stated it wants to attack WoW head on, for the exact same audience. Nice try with comparing it to movies, unfortunatly, there is no such thing as a "hardcore" movie or a "Casual" movie, so its silly to compare it to MMO's.

And no the burglar is nothing like a rogue.  In WoW the rogues roll is massive melee DPS.  The burglar is nothing like that they are a debuff class/crowd control class with mediocre DPS.   And how on earth is the Mistril the same as a priest?  Is a priest a melee class who plays instruments to buff their group and heal them?

The concept is exactly the same. you play a burglar the exact same way as a Rogue. ohh, a priest uses instruments, what a 100% difference in the gameplay mechanics.

So I guess in your mind WoW is identical to EQ1 since that was the market they were trying to get.  Those were the audience they wanted to steal.  And the classes in WoW must be the same as EQ1 as well.  I mean man they are fantasy classes with healers, DPS classes and Tanks.  It must be a clone!!!


Yes, because Everquest was a casual game that was for 90% based on questing an...oh no wait, it isn't.

Lord of the rings Online may have a few bells and whistles slapped on it, changed a few gameplay mechanics, but in the end, you are still doing endless questing, going from one area to another while picking up loot on the way. Lotro is not unique, nor is it different. In 2007, you'd expect something more refreshing and new, but this doesn't seem to be the case in Lotro. Sword of the New World: Granado Espada is different, Age of Conan will be different, Tabula Rasa will be different, many MMO's will be different, but LOTRO is the old gameplay. it doesn't improve or innovate ANYTHING big. The only thing that can really be called innovative is Monsterplay.
  Gameloading

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5/08/07 11:37:21 AM#39
Originally posted by Quingu
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by Cabe2323
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by SlickShoes
Originally posted by Sethon
Because it IS a WoW clone. I've played since before release. It is WoW. Same quest system, classes, and skills. It's a clone, mates. Unless you're a fan of WoW, you shouldn't join this game.
What is the quest system that it has stolen? Most MMORPGs have quests to do, also it has none of the classes that WoW has! i doubt you have even played this game!
Actually it does, Lotro has the standard classes with a new name tagged on it.

 

 

Neither of GL's Comments are true,  First off LOTRO has more quests and content then WoW had at release.  Also, LOTRO is adding a whole new area in their first free upgrade in June that will add another 60+ quests.  Bringing their total number of quests to the 1700 range.  Secondly, The classes are not the standard classes with a new name tagged on.  There is no Magic Nuker class in this game.  The Burglar does not equal the Rogue of WoW.  His DPS is actually low and he is a mob debuffer/crow control plus he gets a skill to start fellowship maneveurs(sp?).  The Tank class is the guardian and is similar to any tank/melee class in any game.  The Captain class is a group buffer/Pet/DPS/healer class, I personally play a Captain (Im level 29 atm) and I have MTed and been the only healer in a group for blue/white fellowship quests before and completed the quests.  The Hunter class in the Range/DPS class, he gets no pet, and his melee skills are a lot better then in WoW.   The champion is sort of like a WoW Fury warrior, but he is different.  The minstril is the Mainhealer, but also is a melee fighter, unlike in WoW where the Mainheler can also be a huge Nuker class(shadowpriest).  The quests are much better done in LOTRO then in WoW.  Especially if you actually read the quests etc. 

If you are the type to plow through the levels as fast as you can then don't play either game.  You will absolutely hate WoW and LOTRO if you are a powerleveler.  WoW gets super boring unless you get into a ultra high raiding guild, but in order to do that make sure you can raid atleast 5 nights a week for atleast 4-6 hours per night.  If you don't have that type of structured time to devote to WoW, then forget about the game.  You won't get to see most of the high end content then. 

If you are a powergamer but don't have the structured play time to devote to raiding you are kind of SOL.  If you are a PVPer then hold out and wait for WAR or AoC.  WoW's PVP is too gear based and if you don't have the high end raid gear you get wiped.  We are not talking about a slight difference in power.  We are talking about a high end gear equipped player taking out 4-6 same level but less equipped players. 

But if you do have the time to devote to raiding and love to flex your Epeen then WoW is the best game for you.

First of all, I can prove that Lotro was aimed for the WoW crowd, and you can't attracts the same audience if you don't create the same game, its impossible, so that settles for my first comment.

Moving on, the warrior is the basic Warrior, which is the same like WoW. The hunter class is simply Lotro's way of having a damage dealing class. In fact, it is VERY similar to the hunter class in WoW. Ministral is the healer, and the burglar is a rogue, save a few twists. the gameplay is exactly the same.

lol you don't know nothing about LOTRO  classes  you didn't even play the game. so you can't prove nada. and burglar isn't a rogue.
I played Lotro. thats fact, its not open for debate.
  Fugnudz

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5/08/07 11:49:33 AM#40

//"WOW or LOTRO"//

As if those are the only two options.  How about adding "Vanguard, "DnL", "SWG", or "Regnum Online" to that list.

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