Originally posted by Nikoz78

Originally posted by suske
i could say the same things about a person who comes to a forum marked "veteran refuge" and tows the line of a company like soe.

I tow the line for no one. And why do you find it strange that a 2003 VET post in a "vet refuge."

Maybe they should rename it "Negative Creep Refuge."

Your the one who is a liar. Bloodfin is packed RIGHT NOW. Over in the Current Player forum someone posted screens of Bloodfin hitting "Heavy Load" status at the server select screen (it's like that a lot of the time).

You are the one that is delusional.

See, in your way of thinking the game will NEVER be fun again and you have bizarre fantasies about SOE's demise. The game is becoming a worthy MMO again (worthy of the name Star Wars).

People like you that can't see the forest for the trees.

Originally posted by duncan_922
Wow!  So now the strategy to save this game is to slowly re-introduce everything they took away?  A rollback that took years and ain't called a rollback! 

Originally posted by Obee

Originally posted by duncan_922
Wow!  So now the strategy to save this game is to slowly re-introduce everything they took away?  A rollback that took years and ain't called a rollback! 

They're sticking half-assed versions of removed content on top of the horrible core game.  Sadly, there are people who think this is a wonderful development.  It takes all kinds, I guess.  If there weren't so many people with extremely low standards, SOE wouldn't be able to remain in business.

Originally posted by duncan_922
When are they going to get it through their thick heads that all these new, wonderful content was there already, and better?!?!

Originally posted by Nikoz78

Originally posted by duncan_922
When are they going to get it through their thick heads that all these new, wonderful content was there already, and better?!?!

When are you going to get it through your thick head that SWG is a fun Star Wars MMO and people enjoy it.

They are not just bringing stuff back. They are expanding and improving on the original design (see campsites as an example).

Originally posted by Nikoz78
jrgambit  you just demonstrated that you know nothing of the current state of SWG so please... sit down.

mithrandir72  You made not one attempt to prove anything you said. And as anyone who actually plays knows, your way off (LOL).

Dvol  you are a  liar dude. Saying I promote SOE games, saying I wrote that VG did not "need anything," etc. Do you have any ability for independent thought or do you just enjoy spouting clichés and parroting others? Why even post?

Shayde Dude, I wish I could meet you in person so I could check out how you carry yourself. You don't have the ability to debate without emotion and certainly are nothing approaching an objective observer. And that's all you are bro - an OBSERVER, since you can't know too much about SWG these days (after all, you don't play it anymore). 

Hell, people in real life can get over the death of a loved one faster than you geeks can get over changes in a computer game.

There are three kinds of players in SWG's history:

* The vast majority of former players (who have quit throughout all it's stages) who don't give a rats ass about it at all anymore (you know, the kind of regular people who have not even THOUGHT about this video game in years).

* The guys who hang in this "refuge" crying about their "loss" (lol... nerds).

* The folks who play SWG.

I would wager that the number of players enjoying this online Star Wars game FAR outnumbers the guys who live in this refuge every day with their hate.

Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi

Originally posted by Nikoz78
jrgambit  you just demonstrated that you know nothing of the current state of SWG so please... sit down.

mithrandir72  You made not one attempt to prove anything you said. And as anyone who actually plays knows, your way off (LOL).

Dvol  you are a  liar dude. Saying I promote SOE games, saying I wrote that VG did not "need anything," etc. Do you have any ability for independent thought or do you just enjoy spouting clichés and parroting others? Why even post?

Shayde Dude, I wish I could meet you in person so I could check out how you carry yourself. You don't have the ability to debate without emotion and certainly are nothing approaching an objective observer. And that's all you are bro - an OBSERVER, since you can't know too much about SWG these days (after all, you don't play it anymore). 

Hell, people in real life can get over the death of a loved one faster than you geeks can get over changes in a computer game.

There are three kinds of players in SWG's history:

* The vast majority of former players (who have quit throughout all it's stages) who don't give a rats ass about it at all anymore (you know, the kind of regular people who have not even THOUGHT about this video game in years).

* The guys who hang in this "refuge" crying about their "loss" (lol... nerds).

* The folks who play SWG.

I would wager that the number of players enjoying this online Star Wars game FAR outnumbers the guys who live in this refuge every day with their hate.

Hmm..didnt you tell us Vanguard was our new home, it was everything we wanted? You were wrong about that one...theres a chance you are wrong now ya know.

Blix is an idiot. Yes, he's the lead designer of SWG (minus 90% of it's peak player base). He will NEVER be trusted with that again. He should have declined that promotion and stuck to being a grunt Dev.

move along nikoz, another NGE player in denial, thinking "ZOMG they gave us a 10th class!!1!!111!!!" When in they beginning they had OVER 20, yes dont have a stroke, i mean if you get excited over a 10th class that was already in there. All SOE is doing is spraying some lysol on a turd.

Originally posted by tvalentine

move along nikoz, another NGE player in denial, thinking "ZOMG they gave us a 10th class!!1!!111!!!" When in they beginning they had OVER 20, yes dont have a stroke, i mean if you get excited over a 10th class that was already in there. All SOE is doing is spraying some lysol on a turd.

Originally posted by Nikoz78

Originally posted by tvalentine

move along nikoz, another NGE player in denial, thinking "ZOMG they gave us a 10th class!!1!!111!!!" When in they beginning they had OVER 20, yes dont have a stroke, i mean if you get excited over a 10th class that was already in there. All SOE is doing is spraying some lysol on a turd.

There were in fact over 30 professions , not simply "over 20" as you stated. (I've played SWG since 2003, by the way)

There are currently 13 professions (4 crafting professions). In a couple weeks there will be 2 more added (Beast Master & Droid Commander) plus another melee class in discussion (a mix of Teras Kasi and Swordsman). That will make it a total of 16 classes in the current state of SWG. Of course, more are sure to follow.

"ZOMG they gave us a 10th class!!1!!111!!!"

Really man, who talks like that?

Originally posted by Shayde

First of all, there is one crafting profession, only especializations. 4 specializations of making useless crap that 99% of which are worse than drops.

Second of all... how does it feel to alpha test a game? They talk of a new class, yet the game is still fundimentally broken. The content is horribly lacking and the bugs still run rampant.

There's blind optimism, and then there's you.

What have they actually added since NGE went live over a year ago that wasn't already in the game pre-nge?

Originally posted by Frenz

What have they actually added since NGE went live over a year ago that wasn't already in the game pre-nge?

Originally posted by Shayde

Originally posted by Nikoz78

Originally posted by tvalentine

move along nikoz, another NGE player in denial, thinking "ZOMG they gave us a 10th class!!1!!111!!!" When in they beginning they had OVER 20, yes dont have a stroke, i mean if you get excited over a 10th class that was already in there. All SOE is doing is spraying some lysol on a turd.

There were in fact over 30 professions , not simply "over 20" as you stated. (I've played SWG since 2003, by the way)

There are currently 13 professions (4 crafting professions). In a couple weeks there will be 2 more added (Beast Master & Droid Commander) plus another melee class in discussion (a mix of Teras Kasi and Swordsman). That will make it a total of 16 classes in the current state of SWG. Of course, more are sure to follow.

"ZOMG they gave us a 10th class!!1!!111!!!"

Really man, who talks like that?

First of all, there is one crafting profession, only especializations. 4 specializations of making useless crap that 99% of which are worse than drops.

Second of all... how does it feel to alpha test a game? They talk of a new class, yet the game is still fundimentally broken. The content is horribly lacking and the bugs still run rampant.

There's blind optimism, and then there's you.

There's the number of "professions" that were available and then there were the number of combinations available...and as long as the current system only allows a person to play one profession (don't care what little point system you have to "tweak" the profession), the numbers can not be compared...it's not comparing apples to oranges but comparing individual fruits to a self-made/self-selected fruit salad (or smoothie...yum). I don't care if they can say "wow, look, we have a 100 fruits now and you only had 30" unless I like something out of that 100 fruits and I can mix a little of this fruit with a little of that and if I can only have one fruit then what difference does it matter how many fruits they have?

And to answer the question of "really man, who talks like that?"  Seems to be an entire "language" used by a group of youngsters or people trying to prove they fit in with youngsters.  Believe me, when I first started SWG, I didn't know what "leet" was either.  Assumed it must be something bad as the first reference I saw to it was saying it was not allowed in guild chat...but then I asked.  I also had to ask what was with the "p" in "pwned."  Also seems that since SOE appears to want a "target audience" of a generation of spoon fed kiddies, people assume that SWG is now filled with leet-speak.

Originally posted by shirlnt

And to answer the question of "really man, who talks like that?"  Seems to be an entire "language" used by a group of youngsters or people trying to prove they fit in with youngsters.  Believe me, when I first started SWG, I didn't know what "leet" was either. 

Originally posted by Nikoz78

Originally posted by tvalentine

move along nikoz, another NGE player in denial, thinking "ZOMG they gave us a 10th class!!1!!111!!!" When in they beginning they had OVER 20, yes dont have a stroke, i mean if you get excited over a 10th class that was already in there. All SOE is doing is spraying some lysol on a turd.

There were in fact over 30 professions , not simply "over 20" as you stated. (I've played SWG since 2003, by the way)

There are currently 13 professions (4 crafting professions). In a couple weeks there will be 2 more added (Beast Master & Droid Commander) plus another melee class in discussion (a mix of Teras Kasi and Swordsman). That will make it a total of 16 classes in the current state of SWG. Of course, more are sure to follow.

"ZOMG they gave us a 10th class!!1!!111!!!"

Really man, who talks like that?

Call us veterans when they get rid of the classes and the cheap wow rip off specializations.  When Blix brings back a game not entirely based on levels.  You know that game you orginally purchased.  It was not level or class based.  It was skill based and a sandbox.  You know the game I paid 70 bucks for the collectors edition to get sunglasses.  The game I subbed to for 2 years.  You remember it.  Please let us know when that happens.

Telling us that soe's big plans is to half ass coded 2 great professions that we use to enjoy into 1 mixed martial artist class is just plain dissappointing and sad.  Frankly we at the Cabal find it mockable.  Droid commander is really funny to.  Let me guess you can control 3 droids and call them from your datapad.  They going to reuse the NPC code for that one and reskin the soliders?

Listen I don't recall much from star wars but droids where proven to be inferior to clones.  Maybe Necrosis brother Tedcrosis can spawn with the Battledroids and pwn newbs.  Of course I dont know much because I apparently missed the piece of star wars lore that said suddenly 5000 jedi reappeared and fought it out between episode IV and V.  Must have missed that novel.

Day 2 of swg was better then the NGE version.  I had to walk every where and 90% of it was busted and it still was superior to this NGE game they produced. 

SWG is a terrible game right now.  No amount of fixes to the NGE version are going to fix it because no one wants to play that style of game with its terrible class system.  I basically throw up in my mouth logging into that game because its so bad.

It might be the worst MMO I have ever played with the NGE on it.  Its slow, boring, pointless, its quests are lame, its combat is lame, its professions are lame and its empty. 

Defend it all you want.  Your a minority.  More of US liked the previous version then currently play your version.  We are right you are wrong.  Na na na na. 

The cabal says: "Pre-CU ftw!"

other than that how is LOTR?  I am thinking of getting it.  Can you slaughter hobbits?

Guess not.