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Staff Writer Jeremy Star takes an in-depth look at Bigfoot Network's Killer K1 NIC.
Read the entire review here. - MMORPG.COM Staff - |
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4/23/07 4:08:16 PM#2
 Pretty bad review. For one thing it compares a 180$~ NIC card with the onboard network card of a fairly low end motherboard. Secondly, the tests are only done on 1 low end cpu, and 1 mid range cpu, and are only done in two games. Leave this stuff to the profesional reviewers.
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4/23/07 5:07:37 PM#3
Well it was better than the last review A lot of people here will play one of those games and they do cover both ends of the hardware requirement spectrum. If you're playing VG though, that X2 CPU is still pretty mid-range. I got this and overclocked it to 3.29GHz.
I'd like to see how a card like the M1 performs with a CPU like that. /flex |
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4/23/07 5:19:06 PM#4
Originally posted by deaddeath Thank you for your comments. Please point me towards a more professional review of this card, and I'd be happy to read it over and see what I could do to improve my reviews. Please keep in mind that the professional reviews of the K1 in print magazines such as PC Gamer consist of 5 short paragraphs, and they tested with 3 games. I think we are slightly more in depth than that. Agent_X7 AKA J Star |
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4/23/07 5:35:45 PM#5
 This Review tells you what you need to know, that this makes a difference when have this card installed and your 180 bucks is not a waste. What else do you need?
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4/23/07 5:40:30 PM#6
Originally posted by Agent_X7By professional reviews I meant something more along the lines of something you might see on anandtech or tomshardware, not something out of a gaming mag. Here's a good example of an user review of the M1 on NCIX forum.ncix.com/forums/topic.php and here's a decent review of the K1 I found on extremetech: www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2105487,00.asp but like the review on this site, it's only tested against one onboard network card and in only a few games. The review on this site is actually the first time ive ever heard anyone report drastic changes after getting a killer NIC. |
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4/23/07 5:42:38 PM#7
Originally posted by LemacsNo, this review does NOT tell me that this card makes difference. It tells me that in the tests that the reviewer ran, the card proved to be an improvement over his onboard network card. |
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4/23/07 6:07:08 PM#8
Originally posted by deaddeath So you are basically not looking for "professional" but rather something more in a style that you like. I can respect that, but I cannot provide it for you. Bad review is your opinion, and you are entitled to it, although I must say your two major complaints seem to be invalidated by the example reviews you posted. Neither review tested on more than one processor, and neither tested more than a handfull of games. Agent_X7 AKA J Star |
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4/23/07 6:33:43 PM#9
Originally posted by Agent_X7Well you're right neither review has tested multiple CPUs, and me thinking they should is a matter of preference really. But as for professionalism, the number one thing that a professional in depth review needs to do is lay out the procedure, like extreme tech has done. and btw, the NCIX user review had 7 games, which is plenty. When a review just throws out averages, without defining what they are averages of, I would say that it's enough to make a review bad. |
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4/23/07 7:50:50 PM#10
It was a decent review, but I've seen more in depth reviews with different products in the past granted they were done at tech sites. One thing that would have been interesting to see is what kind of improvements you might expect to gain from using a killer nic with on board graphics compared to on board graphics and a on board nic since that setup is much more cpu and memory constrained. Personally I'd like to see a I-Ram review here on mmorpg.com to see what kind of improvements you can get with one for mmorpg's especially one's you could actually fit on a 4gb ram drive or 8gb raided ram drive.
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4/23/07 8:00:26 PM#11
The reviewer stated from the start that it wasn't a in depth we tested every single game/hardware combo out there. He just posted what he found to be with his system with two games he plays. I found it a good read just like the other one.
I still think $180 for it is a bit steep. Talk to me when it is closer to the $100 range. What I want to know is how it compares to the new nVidia 680i motherboards with their: NVIDIA Native Gigabit Ethernet
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4/24/07 2:21:32 AM#12
180? Is still crazy for a NIC. Your reaching the cost of RAM again which would improve your systems performance way more than the POS products put out by Big Foot. A better internet connection service and 1gig Ethernet port on any modern motherboard will easily compare or do better. Why are you reviewing these products? Whats the point? You really out of stuff to write about? We mmorpg.com goers I believe would much rather see the performance differences in mmorpgs, and graphical setting differences than reviews of something that NOBODY BUYS, Cares for, or even has a market for. Big Foot tried to cash in on the whole "gamer" hardware and failed. 180 bucks is better spent on water cooling parts, hardware, or some good'ol reading material about networking or optimizing your PC.
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4/24/07 7:14:35 AM#13
I am still waiting to see how it compares to a 10-15$ standalone nic. In my experience anything integrated will have a noticeable hit on performance, be it a NIC, a sound card, a sata controller, a usb hub or anything for that matter. "Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason." |
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4/25/07 12:22:09 PM#14
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I was under the belief that cable internet is no longer a "shared" process. Now, I did think that some low quality providers still provided that old system, but doesn't larger companies in metropolitan areas, like Comcast, have a more dedicated line? You, alone, used to be able to consume your entire neighborhoods bandwidth with the old system which is no longer possible. I just had my internet/phone/cable hooked up and this was the exact question I had asked: cable internet is a shared bandwidth so how is this going to affect my usage, or vice versa in terms of me affecting my neighbor? The guy who installed everything was a gamer; fps games, America's Army, BF1942, etc. He went over a plethora of technological changes that's been implemented by his company; also his ISP. I had already signed up for everything and wasn't "being sold" a product. I am experiancing a better dl/ul speed and less packet loss with a 3mb cable connection then I was with my previous 8mb DSL service. I him hitting 12,000 bps whereas the old DLS was barely breaching 10,000 bps. The cable connection fluctuates between 10k bps -to- 12k bps and functions better then my old DSL ISP. |
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4/26/07 6:50:18 AM#15
Enjoyed the review. It was straight to the point and easy to understand, even if not scientificly accurate.
To the persons responding this review isnt "proffesional" enough. The review does have a disclaimer saying that it is not intended to be a "hardcore" review, its merely one persons experience with the card and whether or not they felt it improved. I have learnt something from this review, namely that the Killer NIC is for people with too much money to waste..  Thanks for taking the time to write it!
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5/02/07 9:24:30 AM#16
I'm not sure what the fuss is about with this card. For one, it's really not going to help much with the performance of games and such, simply because of the way TCP/IP works. For two, it's not even designed with MMO's in mind.
This card doesn't change the underlying principle of how TCP/IP works, but simply changes the prioritization of the network packets. If you still have a crappy connection, you're still going to get crappy performance. If you have a good connection, you may increase spead a slight bit, but not enough to justify the cost. The only market I could see this increasing performance in is in FPS, where getting the highest ping is king, but even then, it will only help you in a LAN setting, since your ping is deterermined by your ISP, not your network card. |
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5/02/07 9:45:22 AM#17
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5/02/07 11:48:02 AM#18
Originally posted by AethiosWhich is a noble thing indeed!  Nah, to be on topic, I felt this review was quite bad. First of all, the article it self is not well formed. Also, no matter if you say "it's not a real review", it certainly comes off as an attempt at it and, as such, it fails because it's almost purely based on the "feeling" of the writer, too few setups/games tried, and also not compared to any other NIC (that isn't integrated). |
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5/03/07 10:03:51 PM#19
FYI, this is just a big scam. You dont need to be an expert, just use common sense. The amount of load a nic card adds to a cpu is minimum, and lag is caused by the connection between your PC and the ISP, you cannot fix network latency by upgrading your NIC card!
On top of that, even if it DID WORK. You would be MUCH MUCH better off spending the $180 on a new video card, 2GB of ram or the often overlooked 10K rpm raptor HDD. Each will provide REAL performance gains and extend the life of your PC. Paying $180 for this NIC card will do absoutely nothing. The reviwer is either totally clueless or just trying not to piss off the sponsor. Do you honestly believer Big Network will continue to pay mmorpg.com if they gave a bad review to their flagship product? Not a chance in hell.... What a load of BS, dont buy this useless piece of crap. Go ask around in some of the more well known tech sites like tomshardware and anandtech forums, and people will laugh their ass off if you wasted $180 on this garbage... |
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5/04/07 12:02:52 AM#20
Originally posted by gagaliya
Just a few points: 1 - Did you read the review? Did you miss the big section where I point out that advertising money has nothing to do with me? It doesn't make one bit of difference to me if someone stops advertising here or not. It has nothing to do at all with my reviews. 2 - If it did nothing, I imagine there would be quite a few irritated customers demanding their money back and filing lawsuits. Instead, we have the rants of people who have no experience with the card, and believe they are qualified to make a judgment based on that lack of experience. 3 - Some of the well known tech sites have given Killer NICs awards. ([H]ardOCP for one)
Agent_X7 AKA J Star |
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