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Votary Novice Member Joined: 8/01/05 Posts: 32	4/24/07 6:21:31 PM#21 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Kostika Originally posted by Quingu sorry but this review rating is BS, the game is bug free, all servers running at release day no crashes, how come they come with a review after a few hours of playing? I've been plaing for the last 10 days on the pre-release EU servers which have now become the retail servers. Plus I also did beta for many months and was familiar with many of the features already. How can you rate the community and service as a whole if you played on the EU servers? You should at least state that in your review. Also, from a purely subjective stand point, I don't think the review matches the scores given. The "review" really doens't have much bad to say about the game. 7.8 just doesn't seem to match what's written at all. It's probably a different take on the rating system, but god, AO got an 8.8 on this website... How can LOTRO be lower than Anarchy Online?... When you write for a well-known website, you have to be consistent in your scores, and you HAVE to take into account of what else's been given out on the site before.
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Kostika Staff Writer Joined: 4/02/05 Posts: 84 Weakness of attitude becomes weakness of character.	4/24/07 6:23:15 PM#22 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by we3ster First of all, I don't play LOTRO and I have no intention of doing so. I do find this review very strange for three reasons:- 1) The game only released yesterday. Is this a review after a day's play of the final release or the beta? 2) If you can get this review for LOTRO out so quickly, where is your review of Vanguard? If LOTRO was given the time frame it seems Vanguard is getting, LOTRO would have probably had 2 FREE CONTENT ADDITIONS by that time knowing Turbine. 3) I play and love DDO and this site gave DDO's graphics a score of 9 which I agree with. How can LOTRO get an 8? They are at least on an equal par with DDO! I left EQ2 to go to DDO and one of the reasons was DDO's far superior graphics and art direction! 1)Please see my above comment regarding how long I've been playing. 2) I don't know. I haven't been asked to cover Vanguard. 3) I also have a DDO account. I agree, it's a good game and looks lovely. I try not to compare games when giving scores. Donna Desborough Staff Writer www.mmorpg.com Notice: The views expressed in this post are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of MMORPG.com or its management.
Kostika Staff Writer Joined: 4/02/05 Posts: 84 Weakness of attitude becomes weakness of character.	4/24/07 6:25:34 PM#23 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Votary How can you rate the community and service as a whole if you played on the EU servers? You should at least state that in your review. I researched and spoke with players on the US servers also in order to get a good view of both communities to give a fair score overall. Donna Desborough Staff Writer www.mmorpg.com Notice: The views expressed in this post are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of MMORPG.com or its management.
Vyce Apprentice Member Joined: 6/10/06 Posts: 114	4/24/07 6:26:15 PM#24 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Kostika Originally posted by Quingu Originally posted by Kostika Originally posted by Quingu sorry but this review rating is BS, the game is bug free, all servers running at release day no crashes, how come they come with a review after a few hours of playing? I've been plaing for the last 10 days on the pre-release EU servers which have now become the retail servers. Plus I also did beta for many months and was familiar with many of the features already. well you should play it again, since you don't even have the graphics high resolution CD, please get it instal and then rate the graphics again. You played the beta not the release ;) I have had the high res pack for the last month. And it is installed. My score of the graphics is a realistic one that doesn't jsut encompass if they're pretty at high resolution. It is a score based on an overall look at the graphics. You are assuming I don't like the game. I do like it. I have a lifetime membership. But in my reviews I will not be unrealistic in my scoring. I am not a fanboy. Since the review did not have a pro/con format, it is hard to tell what you liked and disliked about the game that led you to your realistic scores. Your opinion is of course valid, just would have liked to see where you drew your conclusions from since this was a review for us.
kabana Novice Member Joined: 10/21/06 Posts: 34	4/24/07 6:26:15 PM#25 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Vyce I hardly call this a review, it read like a game description to me and wondered if the writer even played the game considering her scores. Also Dwarves are male only. No, she's right about dwarves. In LOTR, Gimli says something to the point that both male and female dwarves look similar, starting the myth that dwarves grow from the stone. So if you choose a dwarf, it will look the same regardless. It's up to you to say what gender you are. It's pretty funny that the game did that. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination!
Quingu Novice Member Joined: 5/20/06 Posts: 414	4/24/07 6:27:12 PM#26 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Kostika Originally posted by we3ster First of all, I don't play LOTRO and I have no intention of doing so. I do find this review very strange for three reasons:- 1) The game only released yesterday. Is this a review after a day's play of the final release or the beta? 2) If you can get this review for LOTRO out so quickly, where is your review of Vanguard? If LOTRO was given the time frame it seems Vanguard is getting, LOTRO would have probably had 2 FREE CONTENT ADDITIONS by that time knowing Turbine. 3) I play and love DDO and this site gave DDO's graphics a score of 9 which I agree with. How can LOTRO get an 8? They are at least on an equal par with DDO! I left EQ2 to go to DDO and one of the reasons was DDO's far superior graphics and art direction! 1)Please see my above comment regarding how long I've been playing. 2) I don't know. I haven't been asked to cover Vanguard. 3) I also have a DDO account. I agree, it's a good game and looks lovely. I try not to compare games when giving scores. yes but we give scores on graphics based on other mmo out there and i can tell you i played most of them and i have a very good comp, i always play all games on max settings, and i can assure you that LOTRO graphics deserve at least a 9.
Shijuki Novice Member Joined: 7/30/05 Posts: 311	4/24/07 6:30:29 PM#27 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) It's funny how people take these reviews so personal to the point where they're about to burst into tears. If you enjoy the game, thats all that matters not what anyone else thinks. The review was written with personal thoughts and experience in mind with that being said, you can't expect everyone to share the same view over your precious game.
Votary Novice Member Joined: 8/01/05 Posts: 32	4/24/07 6:33:07 PM#28 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Kostika Originally posted by Votary How can you rate the community and service as a whole if you played on the EU servers? You should at least state that in your review. I researched and spoke with players on the US servers also in order to get a good view of both communities to give a fair score overall. So what's wrong with it? Along with the other 7s, nothing was really mentioned. What were your expectations? How did the game disappoint you in those areas? Overall, I would say, unfortuantely this is just a very non-convincing review because it doesn't have a pros and cons format, and doesn't cover all the scoring areas. It also seems to have a different yard stick than other reviews on this site, which is very unfair to the game. And yes I love the game, but I can totally accept some not liking or rating it down in areas. I am really saying things about the review itself. It's just not very comprehensive. I love MMORPG.com and I expected a better written review :(
Vyce Apprentice Member Joined: 6/10/06 Posts: 114	4/24/07 6:35:00 PM#29 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by kabana Originally posted by Vyce I hardly call this a review, it read like a game description to me and wondered if the writer even played the game considering her scores. Also Dwarves are male only. No, she's right about dwarves. In LOTR, Gimli says something to the point that both male and female dwarves look similar, starting the myth that dwarves grow from the stone. So if you choose a dwarf, it will look the same regardless. It's up to you to say what gender you are. It's pretty funny that the game did that. Yes, in that sense you are both correct. My meaning was that instead of an androgynous appearance the dwarves are definately male in appearance. Thanks for the clarification.
Galupa Novice Member Joined: 1/28/07 Posts: 201 The Unlucky Dominator aKa Master of the Flan!	4/24/07 6:42:58 PM#30 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Vyce I hardly call this a review, it read like a game description to me and wondered if the writer even played the game considering her scores. Also Dwarves are male only. The graphic detail is the best out there atm, so wonder where your score came from. The game is solid, polished and the smoothest launch I have ever seen. LOTRO is an amazing game! The monster play option is also player vs player, which the writer did not mention. Amazing? i dont know about that, it changes nothing in the mmorpg world, very few things we haven't seen in a number of other games. But it is solid and looks pretty. "The new age is upon us, yet the past refuses to rest in its shallow grave."
we3ster Apprentice Member Joined: 12/27/05 Posts: 361 Good. Bad. I''m the guy with the +5 Shock, Heavy Repeating Crossbow!	4/24/07 6:46:47 PM#31 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Kostika Originally posted by we3ster First of all, I don't play LOTRO and I have no intention of doing so. I do find this review very strange for three reasons:- 1) The game only released yesterday. Is this a review after a day's play of the final release or the beta? 2) If you can get this review for LOTRO out so quickly, where is your review of Vanguard? If LOTRO was given the time frame it seems Vanguard is getting, LOTRO would have probably had 2 FREE CONTENT ADDITIONS by that time knowing Turbine. 3) I play and love DDO and this site gave DDO's graphics a score of 9 which I agree with. How can LOTRO get an 8? They are at least on an equal par with DDO! I left EQ2 to go to DDO and one of the reasons was DDO's far superior graphics and art direction! 1)Please see my above comment regarding how long I've been playing. 2) I don't know. I haven't been asked to cover Vanguard. 3) I also have a DDO account. I agree, it's a good game and looks lovely. I try not to compare games when giving scores. Well I am glad you like DDO, it has restored a little of my faith in you. However, I have to agree with somebody earlier who mentioned that your score does not reflect the comments you made. Some people will use this site as a reference and will only take notice of the score which is too low, I'm sorry. With a slew of games recently released which do not offer acceptable performance, false promises and excuses, Turbine have released a game which is stable, bug free and offering great visuals to larger percentages of the gaming population. None of this is mentioned and Turbine should be commended on this and sites like this should assist the gamers struggle against developers who blatantly take gamers for a ride. This should now be reflected in your reviews because stable, bug free games on launch are the EXCEPTION not the norm!! They have even launched with new pricing models which offer cheaper gameplay for those who are looking to commit. That's a nice reward for someone's loyalty!! There is no mention of the fact that Turbine are unequalled when it comes to offering FREE QUALITY CONTENT. You have a DDO account, you know this! It all adds to the service that Turbine provide. These are not just games, they are services, this should also be considered in the customer service part of your review. Ask your editor why a game such as Vanguard which has been released for a much longer period than ONE DAY has NO REVIEW from this website yet? I am sorry but I cannot help thinking that there are other forces at work here! You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
Huria Novice Member Joined: 10/15/04 Posts: 311 Cause that''s..how I roll.	4/24/07 6:48:42 PM#32 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) 7.8 is really good guys. 5 is average. Anything 7 or above means you should play it. I remember when the new Zelda came out and got a 8.8. If you went on there it seemed like the world was ending. It's a game guys, chill and enjoy.
Razorback Novice Member Joined: 3/05/04 Posts: 5266 I reject your reality and substitute my own.	4/24/07 6:55:29 PM#33 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Nice review.... a little short as others have mentioned. Also considering you barely made a nuetral, let alone negative comment about it. Why 7.8 ? As far as almost every measure of a release of an MMO goes, LOTRO has blitzed the field. Its stable, its content rich and its extremely bug free, the big triad of woes for most releases. To my great great surprise Turbine have created a fanastic game and released it in a polished fashion. 9.0 from me! Possibly one of the best launches in the industry so far. +-+-+-+-+-+ "MMOs, for people that like think chatting is like a skill or something, rotflol" http://purepwnage.com -+-+-+-+-+-+ "Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
namelessbob Advanced Member Joined: 2/26/04 Posts: 1476 "The internet is a series of tubes." -Ted Stevens	4/24/07 6:55:35 PM#34 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) The reviewer is a person and a fan of MMo's just as any of us on this site. When dealing with reviews you get to express your opinion of the game. If you don't like the review here, there are multiple other places that rate graphics, sound, and other features at a 9 or higher. That is what reviews are for. I say Donna did an great job on the "review" even though I don't agree with the score I can understand how some of the stuff may have gotten low marks. Though I must say seeing grasshoppers jumping in the grass west of Bree blew my mind which just was 10 in graphics for me for them to have this level of detail. Even the customer support with the reporting of bugs was fantastic in my opinion as I reported over 5 in the open beta to have them fixed within the weeks (Which means they are listening to the community which is cool). In the end if ya don't like the review make up your own and post it in the LotR:O forums. Doesn't do much to argue it in a forum people are going to look for advisement in if they should buy the game and see people nitpicking all over.
sculler Novice Member Joined: 12/28/03 Posts: 5	4/24/07 6:57:55 PM#35 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) It's quite obvious that Turbine and mmorpg.com have some sort of agreement to positively promote this game.
Votary Novice Member Joined: 8/01/05 Posts: 32	4/24/07 7:12:05 PM#36 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by namelessbob The reviewer is a person and a fan of MMo's just as any of us on this site. When dealing with reviews you get to express your opinion of the game. If you don't like the review here, there are multiple other places that rate graphics, sound, and other features at a 9 or higher. That is what reviews are for. I really agree that the reviewer has every right to rate the game however he/she wants. I didn't see an opinion in the writing is really my beef. I really love the game, but with this review, I can't even argue about the bad points in the review, because there are none elaborated other than a number :) I am really reviewing the review here... :) I got no issues with difference in opinion, but I do have issues with reviews that are not comprehensive, especially from established and popular sites like MMORPG.com. The review on GamingTrend is so much more detailed: http://www.gamingtrend.com/Reviews/review/review.php?ReviewID=830
Quingu Novice Member Joined: 5/20/06 Posts: 414	4/24/07 7:12:53 PM#37 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by sculler It's quite obvious that Turbine and mmorpg.com have some sort of agreement to positively promote this game. lol no you wrong, if you right the score will be like 9 instead of 7.8
Yeebo Novice Member Joined: 3/20/05 Posts: 1360	4/24/07 7:15:40 PM#38 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Shouldn't the major point of a review be to describe a game in enough detail that you can decide whether you might be interested in playing it? Why is the review being criticized for being too descriptive? I would say it was a well written nicely detailed review, personally. I don't see what would have been added to it had the author chosen to go on a rant about some random minor detail or come off like a drooling fanboy (tt's teh best..WoOT!). The tone of the review was pretty positive if you actually read it... I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Thorsnes Novice Member Joined: 4/12/07 Posts: 459 Common sense is not so common.	4/24/07 7:27:23 PM#39 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I agree with others saying this "review" of LoTR:O is more of a description, an introduction if you like. The writer simply concludes that the game is a "very good" one. Why is that? What are the pros and cons? Feel free to digitally stone me on this one, but I think a person who hasn't already got a lifetime subscription to the game might be able to write an actual subjective review. "Combat is fast paced and exciting, even if you're soloing." I made it to level 13 with my Dwarf Guardian in the open beta, and the combat was anything but "fast paced and exciting" (even on very low game settings - just to double-check). I do remember combat being slow paced with unresponsive skills/animations. Aggroing 10+ mobs at once might make the combat a bit more fast paced, but also frustrating. Does combat become faster and/or more responsive in the higher levels? I placed LoTR:O on the chopping block and gave it my "review" some time ago: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/125114 [UPDATED] Warhammer Offline: Age of Registration \| "WHAAAT?!"
jiveturkey12 Elite Member Joined: 12/22/04 Posts: 1164	4/24/07 8:07:27 PM#40 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Thorsnes I agree with others saying this "review" of LoTR:O is more of a description, an introduction if you like. The writer simply concludes that the game is a "very good" one. Why is that? What are the pros and cons? Feel free to digitally stone me on this one, but I think a person that hasn't already got a lifetime subscription to the game might be able to write an actual review that is a bit more "neutral". "Combat is fast paced and exciting, even if you're soloing." I made it to level 13 with my Dwarf Guardian in the beta, and the combat was anything but "fast paced and exciting" (even on very low game settings - just to double-check). I do remember combat being slow paced with unresponsive skills/animations. Aggroing 10+ mobs at once might make the combat a bit more interesting... Does combat become faster and/or more responsive in the higher levels? Not only that but Quests are optional? HA! yea right, I can tell you right this second swear to god, that you HAVE to do quests in LOTRO. I leveled ONCE while hunting every other time i leveled from 2-15 was turning in a quest. You gain very little exp from ifghting, it is a very quest centric game. not that its bad but its the truth. -Jive