Originally posted by we3ster
Yes, I think people should give DDO a trial or another trial. People always highlight DDO's negatives on these boards but it has a lot of good points too.

In all honesty, I can't play another MMO as DDO's combat is easily the best out there at the moment.

without a doubt the best fantasy combat system available. Will give LOTRo a try but can see myself back in Stormreach come the end of the closed beta. Population shortage? Not any more now there are 2 servers only for Europe. Healthiest population I have ever seen since its release!

Originally posted by godpuppet

Originally posted by Cerion

Originally posted by JJD74

Originally posted by godpuppet
As far as adding content goes, I'd say CCP is top notch with WoW coming in second and Turbine third.

Sorry, the level of new content addition in Asherons Call 2 was depressing.

Sorry, but putting Blizzard above Turbine in the "content addition" category is absolute idiocracy.  There's not even a worthy comparison to support such a fanboi effort.  I sincerely hope you're not comparing their single TBC addition to all the modules of Turbine.

CCP and Turbine are at the top...  I'd put Blizzard / WoW somewhere near the bottom.

I agree.  When I said count on one hand, I had CCP, NCSoft, and Turbine in mind.

Frankly with the amount of profits Blizzard is pulling in, you'd think that they'd be churning out massive content updates. But then again, why should they if the players are too naive to know that they deserve better, and that companies do exist that offer such content.

If you look at the patch notes dates, you will notice that Blizzard release a patch every 2-3 weeks, Holidays excluded. Your Module 4 released this april, and let me get this straight, your last module released last October? You get a content patch every 5 months?

So nice to be called a Fanboi. I shouldnt be surprised with these forums. Personal insults; the tool of an individual who has no arguement to debate.

Good day sir!

 

Where did I call you a fanboi? In fact, I haven't insulted you at all. WoW introduced millions of new players to the MMO genre. Those are the naive players I'm speaking of, which isn't really an insult if you think about it. I'm sorry if you took that to heart. 

Oh, and btw, DDO has these smaller patches as well, just like WoW. Nothing new there.  The modules are nearly on the scale of full-blown expansions, a step up from EQ2 adventure packs (which you have to pay for in that game).

Originally posted by Cerion

Originally posted by godpuppet

Originally posted by Cerion

Originally posted by JJD74

Originally posted by godpuppet
As far as adding content goes, I'd say CCP is top notch with WoW coming in second and Turbine third.

Sorry, the level of new content addition in Asherons Call 2 was depressing.

Sorry, but putting Blizzard above Turbine in the "content addition" category is absolute idiocracy.  There's not even a worthy comparison to support such a fanboi effort.  I sincerely hope you're not comparing their single TBC addition to all the modules of Turbine.

CCP and Turbine are at the top...  I'd put Blizzard / WoW somewhere near the bottom.

I agree.  When I said count on one hand, I had CCP, NCSoft, and Turbine in mind.

Frankly with the amount of profits Blizzard is pulling in, you'd think that they'd be churning out massive content updates. But then again, why should they if the players are too naive to know that they deserve better, and that companies do exist that offer such content.

If you look at the patch notes dates, you will notice that Blizzard release a patch every 2-3 weeks, Holidays excluded. Your Module 4 released this april, and let me get this straight, your last module released last October? You get a content patch every 5 months?

So nice to be called a Fanboi. I shouldnt be surprised with these forums. Personal insults; the tool of an individual who has no arguement to debate.

Good day sir!

 

Where did I call you a fanboi? In fact, I haven't insulted you at all. WoW introduced millions of new players to the MMO genre. Those are the naive players I'm speaking of, which isn't really an insult if you think about it. I'm sorry if you took that to heart. 

Oh, and btw, DDO has these smaller patches as well, just like WoW. Nothing new there.  The modules are nearly on the scale of full-blown expansions, a step up from EQ2 adventure packs (which you have to pay for in that game).

GAME! SET and MATCH! To Cerion

This is all very nice, but the reason I quit had nothing to do with content, or lack thereof.  I will even admit that the combat is above average.

I quit because of the complete lack of game outside the instances ... the horrible downtime in the taverns ... the obnoxious community where every PUG is full of know-it-alls who can't believe that not everyone has played every dungeon at least 3 times ... the same know-it-alls who are more than happy to tell you the "best" way to build your character and play your class ... the city that's insanely spread-out, boring and static, yet you are forced to run through it and experience its joys dozens of times every time you play.

Somehow, I suspect they haven't come out with a patch for the rotten community.

Originally posted by Hexxeity
This is all very nice, but the reason I quit had nothing to do with content, or lack thereof.  I will even admit that the combat is above average.

I quit because of the complete lack of game outside the instances ... the horrible downtime in the taverns ... the obnoxious community where every PUG is full of know-it-alls who can't believe that not everyone has played every dungeon at least 3 times ... the same know-it-alls who are more than happy to tell you the "best" way to build your character and play your class ... the city that's insanely spread-out, boring and static, yet you are forced to run through it and experience its joys dozens of times every time you play.

Somehow, I suspect they haven't come out with a patch for the rotten community.

what you say does happen once in a blue moon but generally speaking I find the community above average for quality for an mmorpg. Damning a game for its town centre which you can run across in five mins indicates there is very little wrong with this game - if it has any fault it is that soling is not an option really...but being an mmorpg the concept is playing together with groups. Plenty of pc games where you can play it alone!

Originally posted by Endemondia

Originally posted by Hexxeity
This is all very nice, but the reason I quit had nothing to do with content, or lack thereof.  I will even admit that the combat is above average.

I quit because of the complete lack of game outside the instances ... the horrible downtime in the taverns ... the obnoxious community where every PUG is full of know-it-alls who can't believe that not everyone has played every dungeon at least 3 times ... the same know-it-alls who are more than happy to tell you the "best" way to build your character and play your class ... the city that's insanely spread-out, boring and static, yet you are forced to run through it and experience its joys dozens of times every time you play.

Somehow, I suspect they haven't come out with a patch for the rotten community.

what you say does happen once in a blue moon but generally speaking I find the community above average for quality for an mmorpg. Damning a game for its town centre which you can run across in five mins indicates there is very little wrong with this game - if it has any fault it is that soling is not an option really...but being an mmorpg the concept is playing together with groups. Plenty of pc games where you can play it alone!

... and yet that simple wait in the pub and run across town was enough to make me hate the game.  For something that indicates "very little wrong," it sure had a big effect on me!  As for "once in a blue moon," I grouped a lot because I played before they added solo content, and every group I joined had at least one complete jerk.  So I guess in DDO, a blue moon happens every night.

Doesn't happen to me. I am almost always in a PUG as my guild is small. The community in DDO is about the best I've seen. Every group I been in everyone has been helpful if it was my first time running it.

I'm having a lot of fun in DDO. I would have to say PUGs are good because it is where you meet people of other guilds. So every so often I will have met friends from other guilds and get tells from them asking if I would join their group for a dungeon instead of seeking that class in the LFM window.

"As far as adding content goes, I'd say CCP is top notch with WoW coming in second and Turbine third."

As they say ignorance is bliss.

Just to educate you, Turbine has provided more free content in it's stable of MMO's than all the others combined and it is not even close.  Much of Blizzard's free content is content that was supposed to be included in the original game or the expansion, including the upcoming patch.   While CCP does only free content releases, you are lucky to see 2 a year, hence while they have good quality, their content quantity is not that high.

"you will notice that Blizzard release a patch every 2-3 weeks" now that is funny, most of those patches are to fix errors introduced in a prior patch, the ones that contain content are few and far between.

Next time post something that does not cause most of us to pity your lack of knowledge.

Just to state the obvious without sounding too negative. People are tired of shit.

There is only two kinds of business, the first is the business that has something truely new, unique and original and the second is the business that copies the first.

A lot of games are the second kind of business and people are tired of that. DDO... falls into the second category.

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Originally posted by glim3mer
Just to state the obvious without sounding too negative. People are tired of shit.
There is only two kinds of business, the first is the business that has something truely new, unique and original and the second is the business that copies the first.
A lot of games are the second kind of business and people are tired of that. DDO... falls into the second category.

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What did DDO copy then? Instances? Dungeons? Orcs? Swords/bows?

Originally posted by Sevenwind

 

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Originally posted by glim3mer
Just to state the obvious without sounding too negative. People are tired of shit.
There is only two kinds of business, the first is the business that has something truely new, unique and original and the second is the business that copies the first.
A lot of games are the second kind of business and people are tired of that. DDO... falls into the second category.

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What did DDO copy then? Instances? Dungeons? Orcs? Swords/bows?

I think DDO also copied this great thing called quests, adventures, guilds, class trainers and NPCs; I think they might've copied water as well. DDO is such a copycat game. How dare they copy quests and water!

Nah, seriously, I liked DDO, but I only played beta and a trial. I never got past level 6 I think. I would've loved to subscribe, but I was uncertain if it would be a game I could play for a long time span. In Beta I was positive about buying DDO, but I held back to see how  it feels to me in a later trial. So I played the trial and on the first day, I found it rather irritating and frustrating to not find a group I can play with, since most players were on higher levels. And yes, for all you smartasses out there, I put up the LFG thing, searched for groups myself, walked around asking, and "telling" to people.

On day 2, I stopped searching for groups after 20 minutes.

Day 3, I found a group consisting of, how can I put this? hmm... yeah, well,  frankly 4 immature "kids", although they vouched they were all older than 21. It didn't make fun at all since no one sticked with the team and simply rushed to the objectives. When I told them nicely to stick together and also asked them, if it would be possible work on the quest as team, I was told to "STFU" and leave the group if I don't like efficiency gaming.
Ok, they didn't say efficiency, since their explanation included a lot of F-bombs and telling me how big a "Newb" I am, but I think they tried to tell me that they hate story lines, but like to raise their level in a record fashion.

On day 6, I gave DDO one last chance and put a group together myself which "only" took me about one and a half hours, hence the low level population wasn't that great in numbers; and it was in a bloody trial phase! I played about an hour with that group till half of them logged off and I was back to square one.

It was then when I snapped and destroyed my screen....

No, that was just another joke....

Honestly, I was dissappointed, disgruntled, another dis-word I can't remember right now, but in the end it felt like I put a lot of hours in a trial period of a game I was sure to buy and ended up disliking it due to the low population on high populated server.
Low population on a high populated server? Sounds odd, but to me it's the truth I sadly experienced.

Now I would looooove to see someone proving me wrong about the things I just wrote. Please, enlighten me!

Good sign for the game. I've been peaking at DDO here and there and have tried the free trial a few times but never really got into it. It sounds so fun in concept and I love the feel of the Eberron setting too. I think I'm gonna go give it another spin this week sometime

This is for all the players that have tried the game and where not happy with the low level groups and or players they encountered.

Sorry for the poor showing. 

I have been playing DDO since beta and have taken a few breaks here and there to play other MMO's. In all fairness, there is not a single MMO out there that i have played that i have not encountered the very same flaws you have described. Most games that have been out a while have a low body count for low level starter people to group with. Most games also have a fair share of buttheads that tell you where to go, what to do and how to play your charicter.  I can say this in all confidence, the DDO "trial account" came at the same time as a celebration gift from turbine where the loot in all chest where improved by one level. so naturally all the players wanted to play there mains to get a chance at better items. Leaving the low level charicters on the shelf for  a long time. Bad timing to be a starter player.  One more note.. some servers have a larger population at certian times depending on what coast most people play. I play on the Sarlona server and i belive it has a larger west coast population. Other servers are more populated at different times. while no one game can say they do not have problems, i belive DDO's population in general is more mature than most.  As with any game where you group with random straingers, its a mixed bag. That is why people join guilds, To play with like minded players.  Six days is not a fair shake for almost any game on the market to base a conclusive opinion on.  Look me up on Sarlona, we are always looking for great people who ejoy making the journey more than the getting to the destination. 

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