General Discussion

News Editor Garrett Fuller takes a look at Dreamlords, the game that merges MMORPG and RTS elements.

Dreamlords presents a unique game play experience for MMO players. The game has been called the RTS-MMO. For those who do not know, RTS stands for Real Time Strategy. For fans of strategy games, Dreamlords definitely gives you a chance to try your wits in an online world against other opponents. You do get an avatar to build up and select abilities for, but the real punch in the game is building and battling with your armies.

Players can choose between three races to fight it out in a world that becomes one giant battlefield. The Thul are a beastlike warlike race that relies on their brute strength to fight off monsters and other races. The Covenant are the clerics or holy warriors who rely on their faith in battle. The Nihilim are also humans who rely on magic to do battle with their foes. Each race offers a specific type of game play. The Thul are the primary fighters, the Nihilim compare to mages, and the Covenant are the faith. If a player enjoys one of these areas then the decision on which race to play is easy.

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it won't matter what they say if yo want the truth i recommend you read my post before i left the game , the idea sounded interesting , but they put it out the bad way.

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It's been a while i've played this game ,and i don't think any of you would argue with me that i've not tried to play enough of this game to get a good aspect about.

So here i'll list some of the deadly problem of this game that i've seen so far.
We are paying for 15$ a month.
If you ask anyone that has a decent income, even if someone only holding a part time job as a student(like myself ) it isn't much, just some pocket money like [FB] Cobis says. But what are we paying for? does it really worth it? I guess the answer would be pretty disapointing, No! It doesn't at all. The reasons are:
(1) This is hardly be called as an MMORPG when it comes down to PvE, call that Single player please. There is no need to group or talk to people, and it's worth if you are managing your patria, you don't need to talk or even gaven a chance to talk to anyone at all.
(2) When it is PvEing , your computer starts lagging after a couple of fights, the problem with Memory leak( some says) is deadly, or whatever that's causing the game to be lagging like hell! Lossing your units for not doing anything and waste Med points , and have to reboot your PC pretty frequently ? NO, i guess no one would enjoy it.
(3) As PvP , if you are in a Convergence that assigned to people who are going in specific roles , only a few can be lucky enough to have time//resources to focus on PvP built patria. As all the rest of you can only do PvE pretty much , cause you know you'll get owned in PvP, or probably won't be as good as others as you are focusing on resources//teching or w/e. You could argue with me that you'll be able to PvP once you manage to top the tech tree you are focused on , but please, that's a long time before you could acutally do something , and that's pretty much the only thing that's this could be even called as a MMO, this is the only place where you interact with other people. But we know as any other RTS game does ,they have chat rooms. so my point is: THIS GAME LACKS THE BASIC CONCEPT OF AN MMORPG BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT INTERACTING WITH OTHERS ENOUGH, THUS YOU DON'T MAKE ENOUGH NEW FRIENDS. What this is directly causing is , no point to play this game , since most MMOers chosee to play with friends as a reason to play the game.
(4) Speaking of RTS side of the game, the biggest problem of this game is being imbalanced, most of the games i've played turns out to be pretty one sided , and if someone tends to abuse their WE or something , they can take the advantage without really fighting other than a few mouse click , and summon the units out. Oops , there's no strategy invovled what so ever. This game also missing some basic component that makes a RTS game interesting. if anyone that played Red Alert and Starcraft // Warcraft Series would know the difference between playing a guy as you can see all the map , Or actually each units had visual range and had Fog of War. Note here, this is like playing someone with maphack Is there any strategy? Yes , there is , but isn't that obvious , you won't pull much of impressive things you can do or timing is all that critical as in the Other RTS game. Let me give you some example: If one of your units is down to 1 man out of 6 , you can try to cap somewhere and make him as a decoy , but obvsiouly , the neemy doesn't have to send all his units to defend it or be worried about anything , just another group of his , which is pretty pointless , the guy has advantage will just keep it , it's compeleted no need to play. so my whole point is: If you are in a lower position to start off with ,you are probably never gonna pull it off with any impressivement in this game, Obviously , the other guy has the Physical advantage with a MAP HACK.

Summary: This game has adpoted the worst way a MMO or a RTS game could ever be, as it being completed imbalanced or pointless to play in a PvP match, it's all determined pretty much right at the precaution step , and you won't have UBER precaution pooints saved up to spam all day. And again , this game has no communication between users, you'll see pretty much the same People online just about everyday that's actually PvPing and have some what a little Communication with eachother, rest of you? Stuck on web ? can't do anything else like someone say they only log on and sell some stone that's it ? For 15 $ ? That's toally not worht it.


And let's move on to the next problem, The goal of this game(Convergence role play mode playing), as any good convergence would try to do is try to get people specialiezed in different area vastly from resource to crafting. See any problem? new players will not know such thing as CV quest or goal of the game , it's not well introduced to the players as it is a very new concept in MMO game playing. but the biggest problem is ,you are making all these things SINGLe PLAYER , SINGLE PLAYER!! And these quest are fighting stupid Computer AI, the repeatness.. oh no , we are really bored.


Finally the Web site playing style is alright ,but hey you just made this gmae mostly played on WEBSITE, and we again , i hate to talk about or bring this up EVERYTIME i try to say something ,but it's a FACT , WE ARE PAYING 15$ just to click something on a website which usually lags for most of the players about few times a day. This kind of game any good? I guess not.

So after all , this game has nothing attractive besides it's idea of MMORTS as a whole BIG concept and , what it intends to offer ,but once people try to find it out here in game, they get hopeless and there's nothing delivered as they've wished, and of course, no one know what we really want, but this kind of mixing up 2 different playing style is not gonna work , it's almost as stupid as trying to mix up a FREE MARKET with a Communist Goverment. Why do i say this? Cause RTS player would look for balance and MMO players would look for ownage with their items//skills they have or levels they at , others aren't there yet, They could obtain such advantage , but is usually able to counter with more lower geared//leveled people , but here? I guess nothing you can do.

Like all my friends that played this game has said the samething, This game sucks ball as trying to stay attractive and keep a BIG community.


I hope this threat won't get deleated, cause these are actually suggestions or my feedback for after playing all these much and how i feel. I do greatly respect the hard working Admins, who have been helping me with my troubles, and I do agree with a lot of people that Lock Pick is willin to make changes to this game and improvement , but so far it's been disapointing what the game has offered.

well I dont need to read ya post all the way through to know that i dont want to play that game. but for you, you seem like you have some agenda against it, maybe you were wronged, or felt violated by it expecting it to be something else. be what it may, you need to learn how to post. i dont know what you did but your post is almost unreadable by any convienent approach.

i was thinking maybe you copied and paste your response or something who knows. but dude if your going to post seperate your paragraphs properly, and please dont use clipboards or whatever it is you used to make your post to this game. but in the end I can kinda understand your view of this game so I cant complain too much but please remember in the future to properly organize your post and make it easily legible by other members. thanks

I had a subscription to this game.  Being an avid single console-RPG & RTS, and MMORPG player, I have to say that I was very disappointed by this game.  The previous posters basically highlite all of my complaints about the game and more.  This was definitely not worth the money.  I had an issue that I'm not going into too much detail about - but basically the customer service was shitty (and the email I received from the GM was quite rude to boot).

The game provides a tutorial video but I would rather this game offer a demo or free trial period.  The tutorial video and the actual gameplay experience are very different, thus my disappointment.  I'm saddened to think that the money I put up for one month of this game could potentially fund future game projects by these devs.  Dream Lords is not worth the score the reviewer had given.

...and for the record, I don't have a personal bias against this game or the devs (as another poster was previously accused).   I simply have a passion for good game design, primarily that of online RPG's and RTS's.  This game did not fulfill that at all.

Sadly, I agree with the above posters.This game is a good idea, poorly implemented.

The RTS part just doesn't have enough variety to make it worthwhile. You gain your units types through research, which basically means you'll be spending a considerable amount of time with only two (even one) unit types to choose from. Which really limits your options, and makes the game seem very, very slow-moving. Also, the way the game rates your patria puts anyone who invests reasonable time into anything other than their war effort at a severe disadvantage in pvp. A side-effect of this is the fact that the most war-oriented race (Thul), have a hefty advantage in pvp. It's hard to forgive balance issues in a game with only three sides, and few units.

The game's other major failing, is a lack of players. It's online sale only, so it will get zero impulse-buy sales. What makes this worse is a severe lack of advertising. (In fact, I've never seen it advertised outside of mmorpg-related sites such as this one). On top of that, the players they do have struggle to be able to pvp with each other (since you can only fight opponents of similar strength).

The review above is very generous, though it's clear the reviewer hasn't played for very long. I must say I enjoyed it very much for the first few days, but it takes a steep nosedive from there on. Even had it been free, I wouldn't have continued playing when my initial month ran out.