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3/27/07 9:39:28 PM#21
out of curiosity, how do any/all of the above compare to ideazon's reaper? it has basically the same tech specs as the krait, but with 6 programmables plus a DPI switcher below the scroll wheel, unfortunately, i run on a low budget, so i havent had the opportunity to test and compare mice... so, i personally am not really entitled to an opinion here.. just when i checked the stats on reaper, it basically was the krait, but with everything the reviewer wished it had...
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3/28/07 12:46:20 AM#22
Logitech G5 and a ZBoard all the way!!! as a note, I find my G5 to be great, how the hell do you sweat enough to slip on it? Honestly, I play for 16 hours on days I have off, have never sweated, and never had slip problems with it. Also, agreed that the DPI changer ON the mouse rocks, and the side button on the G5 rocks for activated abilities in DOTA ;)
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3/28/07 2:38:28 AM#23
Decent review, although it totally ignores some of the worst points about the Razer Krait.
Namely: it's a Razer mouse - so for many people, it'll be too small and too light. It's tiny-ness makes it a horribly uncomfortable mouse to use - and it feels like playing a game with a feather. Three reasons why your G5 is better than the Razer Krait: Shape - It's bigger, so more well-suited to many people's hands. It's also ergonomic, which means it's a much more comfortable gaming experience. PS: I've never had any trouble keeping my hands on the G5, perhaps because I'm used to playing with those tiny Razer mice which force you to grab them uncomfortably tight because they're so tiny. By contrast the G5 was a much more comfortable experience and significantly easier to keep your grip on. Weight - It actually has substance, so it's a comfortable gaming experience - whereas the Krait doesn't weigh anything at all. Customizability - The G5 allows you to change DPI on the fly - as well as utilizing many different buttons (if you care for that sort of thing). Better yet, you can alter it's weights entirely to suit your needs. A little heavier on the left, a little lighter on the right - simple with the weight cartridge. Regardless, if you're going to buy a mouse - don't get the Razer Copperhead or Logitech G5 - nor the Krait. That is, unless you want a mouse that performs significantly worse than it's direct competition (Razer Diamondback & Razer DeathAdder - the latter being the best mouse you can buy, period) The DeathAdder is clearly the best mouse, because it combines the ergonomic and larger shape of the G5 with unmatched performance, at a lower pricetag than that G5. Both the Razer Copperhead and Logitech G5 utilize laser technology - and for the moment that is horribly inferior to optical technology. Both the Copperhead and G5 have clear drop-off points, unless you resort to overclocking to improve their performance. Lastly - if you do have a G5 and want to make it work better than a Razer DeathAdder (non-overclocked) - then read this article and get to polling - although it does take up some system resources... regardless it should elevate your G5's performance significantly. |
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3/28/07 3:34:45 AM#24
Originally posted by Droniac Get your facts str8 plz, Copperhead is superiour to Diamondback. |
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3/28/07 4:18:25 AM#25
Originally posted by Droniac Well, I never thought I had small hands, but I find my Razer copperhead to fit in my hand quite nicely. The Logitech mice feel too bulky to me, and I can't help but feel that I'm moving some massive behemoth around. It was by no means too heavy, just too large. The copperhead however feels light and agile, and much easier to rest your hand on. For me, anyway. As for the Krait, that mouse seems to have just a few good sections of the copperhead, but not the best ones. 2000 dpi, 1000 hz polling rate, and 2 buttons on each side, and 5 profiles stored on its on board memory. So when you combine that along with the light speedy feel of Razer mice, the copperhead seems like a pretty fantastic mouse to me. And since when is laser inferior to optical? As far as I know, laser is capable of higher DPI settings, and can work on shiny surfaces while optical cannot. |
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3/28/07 6:59:18 AM#26
my opinion..
i don't like razer mice, never have. over the past few years i've tried a few, always thinking "this one will be better" but i just don't like the feel of them. right now i'm using a modded G7. i had the original G7 with that horrible blue plastic shell, and i picked up a G5, removed the shell and put it on my G7, of course this meant i had to replace the pads with corepad skates, but the whole process was really easy, and i'm MUCH happier with this set up. the G7 with this modded shell is THE perfect mouse for me.. except... i'd really LOVE to see the second thumb button make it's way back onto their gaming series of mice. ____________________________ |
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3/28/07 6:59:32 AM#27
My experiences with Razer mice have been pretty poor tbh. Maybe I've just been unlucky. I've owned two of their mice, a Boomslang (thier first) and a Copperhead (similar to the Krait but with 2000dpi and more features). I'm an ex-hardcore Quake player and, I was very easily persuaded to buy these things. Disturbingly, in the same manner that kids are convinced that a pair of Nike trainers make you run fast, I bought into the hype (on two seprate occaisions) and hope these would improve my aim.
Unfortunately, the boomslang didn't last very long - it lost responsiveness after a month, and the Copperhead simply didn't feel accurate. Sensitive, yes, but accurate? Even after a solid year of use of the Copperhead, I always found it easier to aim with Microsoft or Logitech bog-standard mice. These mice are comfortable, and they do look pretty damn good, and for MMORPG use they are more than good enough. But for first person shooters, I recomend logitech first, microsoft second. Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting... |
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3/28/07 7:04:43 AM#28
Originally posted by chade89 I agree with you completely. I had a G5 and thought it was way too bulky. Now have the Copperhead Tempest and love it. I do have rather large hands and was worried about the Copperhead because when I first used it, I did get a feeling that it was way too small and also that I would accidentally crush it (ok maybe I am stretching it a bit), but after just a little bit of use I couldnt imagine using anything else. I guess with something like this though, its totally preference. |
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3/28/07 9:34:24 AM#29
Have been using a G7 mouse for about 4 mos. now, the mouse has "rough" plastic on
the sides for grip which works really well, but the mouse has a tendancy to double-click on me. Not sure if there is an adjustment for this but happens in games and using a browser, it is a very sensitive mouse, you can see this just from watching it while clicking. |
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3/28/07 2:14:06 PM#30
Thing I dont get is... The Razer isnt wireless?
Nothing gets on my tits more then having my mouses movement restricted by a wire. Having to lift it and tug the wire back onto the desk only to have it fall back to its original place. Ive tried taping it to the desk but it comes loose freaquently and my movement is restricted yet again. Ive been using the Microsoft wireless mice for about 2 years now, first one lasted roughly a year, so I bought a logitech to replace it, which broke within a month, sent it back and switched it for another Microsoft. They may not be top of the line in ergonomics, but they're durable. With 4 buttons a wheel and a meters wireless capacity, I cant ask for more out of my mouse. --- |
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3/28/07 2:24:23 PM#31
The higher end Razors are great, but this is a bare bones model and at $35 you can get a mouse which is comparable in quality and has more than the minimum buttons. I like my Copperhead, but you can get everything this has for less and it just is not worth paying for just the name.
In this price range look elsewhere. |
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xpowderx
Novice Member
Joined: 10/09/05
Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. |
3/28/07 3:18:34 PM#32
lol, Razer is just a colrful mouse. For FPS there is only one thing to use and thats a GAMEPAD!! I use Logitechs 22 button gamepad with analog and conventional controllers. I own the opposition in BF 2142 with it as well as BFII. For mmorpgs there is a tab button that targets precisely..lol. Dont think a mouse should be hyped up. Have a logitech mouse as well, but still prefer my gamepad!
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Crysalis
Novice Member
Joined: 10/20/04
"You are not a beautiful and unique data packet." -Me |
3/29/07 10:26:20 AM#33
I would have to agree with some people here, that this review of this mouse was a little out dated. I've seen this bad boy out before, but I know what you're really trying to say: that this is out there for gamers if they already didn't know. YES, a good mouse can be your best defense in so many different types of games. I think persons playing First Person Shooters would benefit more so by these types of mouses more so than us MMO players. I mean lets face it, how many MMO's out there have you aiming for a head shot?
I think the only true way that we benefit from this mouse would be the way that its easier on the wrist. I mean, we have countless hours of grinding and farming and dungeon running...we need something that is going to ease this pain. I'm all about comfort when gaming, cause when I game I'm in it for hours. I got the $200 comfy gaming chair, leg rest wireless mouse and keyboard 22" monitor. You know...the essentials for when a person wants to game for 12 hours straight. So if you are all about the hardcore gaming you need comfort, and in that case I really would suggest this mouse...or something equally as comfortable. |
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3/29/07 2:37:37 PM#34
Originally posted by chade89 My hands are by no means big, but I find that my Razer Diamondback is most certainly too small. Sure you get used to it and eventually it doesn't bother you anymore, but then you get to try playing with a Logitech G5 and it suddenly becomes painfully clear how awkward your gaming experience has been until then. The Razer mice (except potentially the DeathAdder) are both small and not ergonomic, making them painful to play with in comparison to the relaxed and comfy feel of a Logitech G5... in spite of the G5 being technologically inferior. Nowadays it's fairly common knowledge that the most recent optical technology is superior to laser technology. Just go to ESReality and check their mousescore articles - you'll see... laser mice have rather low drop-off points which is a very bad thing for people who play first person shooters or other fast-paced games and expect their mouse to be both fast and accurate, not just fast... That is also the reason why I'd buy a Diamondback over a Copperhead any day. Regardless, this current flaw in laser technology is also a good reason not to buy a Logitech G5 - since it's a laser mouse as well. |
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razer_zero
Apprentice Member
Joined: 2/25/05
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3/30/07 5:15:31 PM#35
Nvm... |
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4/01/07 10:10:33 PM#36
I have a razer and it's pretty dope. I don't think it's a razer krait though... me be older? It has an embulam on the back that pulses blue light. Much cooler looking in my opinion. I no longer play CSS so w.e's. Mine looks coolerer ^^
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4/03/07 10:37:36 AM#37
I was readin this, just because I have an unopened box with a Krait standing beside my computer as I saw the review. Still not connected it, using my cheap $8 budget mouse... I bought it for CS and BF2142, I had a Razer before and it improved my score immensly. Problem was... like they do... it broke. Nothing big, something popped that should not pop and it stopped working... And no matter how good a mouse is... When they cost a certain amount, you really dislike it when they break. The $8 budget mouse? Is the same one I had before the old Razer, and its been a year since it broke... Still working. I kinda think thats important too in a review.. that things work when you buy them is good. Will they work a year from now, costing 5 times as much as ordinary equipment... Still... Its a damn good mouse, I am just saving it now for Crysis, I want a fully funcional, perfect mouse when that is released, I am gonna shoot the living bejeebuz out of it. "This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly. |
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4/08/07 1:41:51 PM#38
Originally posted by Riddle Sounds like the Razer Diamondback Limited (Plasma) Edition. I had one too, until it broke. And yeah, it's older than the Krait but at least as good. |
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4/08/07 9:02:44 PM#39
Originally posted by Harafnir How the hell can you make a mouse break? I have a Razer Copperhead and it fell countless times and it still works fine |
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7/13/07 2:14:00 PM#40
Something that I believe is important to mention is being a girl (i.e. small hands) I don't like large "bulky" mice. To me, the "G" series mice are too large for me. My boyfriend has a Razer Copperhead, once I tried it I've been unsatisfied with my mouse (normal dell optical, wireless that came with my old computer). However, the Copperhead, while smaller than the "G"s was still too long for my shorter fingers. So for me, the Krait is perfect. I'm not picky about having multiple side buttons so that wasn't an issue for me. I did a lot of research on mice before I decided on one, I think it would be beneficial for those (few) female gamers out there to mention things like this in reviews. In all the reviews I've read, nothing focuses on how different it can be to be a girl trying to look for a mouse.
Shortened version: Krait = smaller than the average mouse and great for small female hands :) |
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