Originally posted by Markaj

Originally posted by treysmooth

Originally posted by Markaj

Originally posted by Thamoris

Many of the posters on the boards are copy cat posters feeding off others negativity. Many have not played the game since the rather rough launch. Most of the bugs are fixed...game breaking issues are isolated cases now. I am currently playing and very much enjoying Vanguard. The game has been MUCH improved. I would say it is NOW ...in the state it should have been at launch. I don't think alot of Vanguard players frequent these boards. I would encourage ya to go to some of the fansites to gather information and do not rely too much on the postings here on these boards.

Another gross misrepresentation of VG and a very poor example of viral marketing.

But let's do as the post recommends and go to a VG affiliate site.

Here is the "longest" thread: http://www.silkyvenom.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13856

Here is the current "second longest" thread:  http://www.silkyvenom.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15737

Have fun reading them!

 

P. S. I am tired of saying this but I am not a SOE hater. I loved EQ2 and unlike some claims, VG is not even remotely compared to EQ2's release.

And I love how you consistently try to show only one side of things.  How long has it been since you played man?  If you haven't played recently you have no clue about performance, so don't claim things about the game that may have been true a month ago but no longer apply.  You have a problem with Vanguard we all get it, you consider Lotro your precious, again we get it.  The points you try to make aren't valid when you haven't seen performance in weeks if not a full month, you sound like a broken record spouting the same stuff about slowdown, hitching and crashes, believe it or not Sigil has improved the performance in a major way for many players.  I played all weekend with my buddy and neither him or I had a crash or any of the massive slowdown or hitching you claim plagues the game in its CURRENT state. 

My suggestion make your point and head on back to your Lotro forums to praise it some more because if you don't currently play Vanguard you aren't exactly the person I would look to for info on current performance.   The reason people say  check other sites is mainly due to people like you who have something personal against the game and rant at any given opportunity.  The posts you make aren't constructive, rather after posting the same stuff in every and any thread and trying to hijack threads when people are looking for info on system builds you are simply trolling.  Believe it or not some people are looking for actual info and don't care about your crusade to try to sink a game you have no intention on playing again.

Not one side of things. I just picked the longest threads on the first page.

You are right. VG is past and history for me. But I have a weakness. Vanbois posts attract me like nothing  

Whenever I see rosy, up in the clouds, Pollyanna posts misrepresenting the true state of the game and falsely advertising it, I can't help myself and come back. There, you know my secret now. 

Save your breath, I won't stop posting. But here is a clue if you want me to. Stop them

 

 

Hi. Just want to tell everyone. I have:

Core 2 Duo E6600 = 2 gb of RAM (533) = Radeon x1800 512mb = Win XP and Vista

And the game runs very smooth and without a lag at Very High visual Settings. I dont know why some people saying, that the game can't run good at good systems. It's Runing good enough for me.

Peace!

Treysmooth, you say my views are outdated. So I link updated views and this time you don't like my choice of links  How can I satisfy your heart?

Do you want to troll the Lotro forums or any other forums for that matter? Go ahead mate  It is all yours. I don't prevent your freedom of speech and you don't mine. What is it we can't share?

Just don't yield to anger, it pulls to the dark side (unless you wanna end up there). VG sure ain't worth it.

Originally posted by Markaj

Treysmooth, you say my views are outdated. So I link updated views and this time you don't like my choice of links  How can I satisfy your heart?

Do you want to troll the Lotro forums or any other forums for that matter? Go ahead mate  It is all yours. I don't prevent your freedom of speech and you don't mine. What is it we can't share?

Just don't yield to anger, it pulls to the dark side (unless you wanna end up there). VG sure ain't worth it.

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by treysmooth
Wow created your account simply to make two post bashing Vanguard, hmm is that a alt account I spot.  Next time use your real account or don't bother no one takes a 2 post count troll seriously.

Peace

Originally posted by treysmooth
Wow created your account simply to make two post bashing Vanguard, hmm is that a alt account I spot.  Next time use your real account or don't bother no one takes a 2 post count troll seriously.

Peace

Originally posted by matraque

Originally posted by OrionStar
It doesn't matter what you do to upgrade your system.  Vanguard will still run like crap.  I would say if your "happy" with Eve and Ryzom,  then I suggest you stay with those games.  Vanguard, will only cause stress and lots of it.

Comming from a SWG player, i find your comment rather funny ;)

short answer  is yes it will run it ,you can group etc.but need to adjust the setting.

Truth be told a x800xt is about same performance as a 7600gt and normally will carry most games comfortably.But read the threads of vanguard struggling with 8800 card.

So the improvement is not that vast .But yeah you will be able to play it

In other words,  you have to put your settings at an all time low -making the game look like nothing as far as the scenery goes, maybe, just maybe you won't lag, crash, freeze, suffer the frustration of going thru' all this and lots more- you might get a few seconds, just a few of less lag, freezing screens, crashes and a ton of other frustrating bugs to deal with daily and constantly.

This is basically the trade off and this is putting it mildly.

Originally posted by hercules

short answer  is yes it will run it ,you can group etc.but need to adjust the setting.

Truth be told a x800xt is about same performance as a 7600gt and normally will carry most games comfortably.But read the threads of vanguard struggling with 8800 card.

So the improvement is not that vast .But yeah you will be able to play it

Dang...why is everyone trippin on the fact the 8800 doesn't play well on Vanguard ?

It's a vastly different card and very, very new. In my 16+ years of cpu gaming ...I learnd one NEVER buys the latest and greatest gear. There are ALWAYS compatibility issues with games untill those games have had a chance to put in patches to support new hardware coming out. This really shouldn't be a big surprise to anyone that has been cpu gaming for awhile.

Getting top of the line gear DOES NOT guarantee the best performance. It's ALWAYS a waste of money cause that same gear will be half its current price 6 months from now AND all current games will be ready to maximize said hardwares features.

Vanguard is optimized for 6000 and 7000 series cards...why? cause those were the cards that were out when they were writting the code to support graphic cards. They can't write support code for cards not on the market yet.

The 8800 is a particular issue because it's ALOT different than 6000 and 7000 series cards due to the up and coming dx10 upgrades.

Originally posted by Thamoris

Originally posted by hercules

short answer  is yes it will run it ,you can group etc.but need to adjust the setting.

Truth be told a x800xt is about same performance as a 7600gt and normally will carry most games comfortably.But read the threads of vanguard struggling with 8800 card.

So the improvement is not that vast .But yeah you will be able to play it

Dang...why is everyone trippin on the fact the 8800 doesn't play well on Vanguard ?
Because it simply doesn't. Some people are under the impression they need the best gear to run VG at a high level of graphics and performance, I say that this is neither true or false, with VG it's kind of like rolling a dice. Even if you roll a six, eventually the mask of hype and the decent graphics you achieve starts to fade, and what lies underneath is a niche game with the same old gameplay just waiting to be trampled by the promising future mmo's who will not walk the same path.

It's a vastly different card and very, very new. In my 16+ years of cpu gaming ...I learnd one NEVER buys the latest and greatest gear. There are ALWAYS compatibility issues with games untill those games have had a chance to put in patches to support new hardware coming out. Wrong, there are not ALWAYS compatibility issues with games and new hardware. My friend bought a 8800 shortly after release, it worked fine with most of his games (WoW, Oblivion, LotRO) he only had mild trouble with BF2142 (screen glitches and performance issues), which was fixed by a patch. This really shouldn't be a big surprise to anyone that has been cpu gaming for awhile.

Getting top of the line gear DOES NOT guarantee the best performance. It's ALWAYS a waste of money cause that same gear will be half its current price 6 months from now AND all current games will be ready to maximize said hardwares features. Very true.

Vanguard is optimized for 6000 and 7000 series cards...why? cause those were the cards that were out when they were writting the code to support graphic cards. They can't write support code for cards not on the market yet. Correct but they new about the 8800 cards being released and Nvidia would have provided them with the resources to optimise their code, although I doubt the developers could have done anything to improve the code anyway they are already useless. Either way Sigil has known about this issue and has had fair amount of time to work on it, unfortunately they can't work on it because the fact is they are too busy still trying to fix issues that are simple and numerous and it looks like they are having trouble even doing that.

The 8800 is a particular issue because it's ALOT different than 6000 and 7000 series cards due to the up and coming dx10 upgrades.

EDIT: Also give up on the SOE charade. We are VG realists, we are not haters, give up on calling us haters, we are realists because we see things as they are, not their past nor their future. We have nothing against SOE, look at my played games, do you see ANY former SOE games in there? No? There is only VG. To judge a book by it's cover is not only ignorant, it is folish. I wouldn't have touched LotRO if I did, nor would I touch a few promising games in the near-future.

EDIT 2: I just thought i'd add that the people that DO hate SOE, hate them for a very good reason. I did not experiance SWG before it hit the NGE and the CU, I have only experianced the aftermath of it all which was enough for me to see that they are telling the truth and have every right to be as angry as they are. However, do you really think they all hate VG just because of SOE? Is VG such a good game that it draws so much hate and nonsense towards it? It is no secret that SOE are a bad company when it comes to making decisions, and it is no secret that they too could be involved in VG much more than you think. However this is all pointless, because VG will be forgotten in the coming months. I can't wait to see your replies to the "I told you so" threads that will plague every VG forum on the internet. This second EDIT wasn't solely pointed at you Thamoris, but to all the others just like you aswell. Enjoy your game.

Originally posted by xAlrythx

Originally posted by Thamoris

Originally posted by hercules

short answer  is yes it will run it ,you can group etc.but need to adjust the setting.

Truth be told a x800xt is about same performance as a 7600gt and normally will carry most games comfortably.But read the threads of vanguard struggling with 8800 card.

So the improvement is not that vast .But yeah you will be able to play it

Dang...why is everyone trippin on the fact the 8800 doesn't play well on Vanguard ?
Because it simply doesn't. Some people are under the impression they need the best gear to run VG at a high level of graphics and performance, I say that this is neither true or false, with VG it's kind of like rolling a dice. Even if you roll a six, eventually the mask of hype and the decent graphics you achieve starts to fade, and what lies underneath is a niche game with the same old gameplay just waiting to be trampled by the promising future mmo's who will not walk the same path.

Sorta true..BUT....the foundation to grow into a truely fantastic gaming experience is there. Everyone will be singing a different song a year from now...I suspects.

It's a vastly different card and very, very new. In my 16+ years of cpu gaming ...I learnd one NEVER buys the latest and greatest gear. There are ALWAYS compatibility issues with games untill those games have had a chance to put in patches to support new hardware coming out. Wrong, there are not ALWAYS compatibility issues with games and new hardware. My friend bought a 8800 shortly after release, it worked fine with most of his games (WoW, Oblivion, LotRO) he only had mild trouble with BF2142 (screen glitches and performance issues), which was fixed by a patch. This really shouldn't be a big surprise to anyone that has been cpu gaming for awhile.

Likely you are right. Vanguard devs were too busy fixing more fundamental issues with game to prepare for the 8800.

Getting top of the line gear DOES NOT guarantee the best performance. It's ALWAYS a waste of money cause that same gear will be half its current price 6 months from now AND all current games will be ready to maximize said hardwares features. Very true.

Vanguard is optimized for 6000 and 7000 series cards...why? cause those were the cards that were out when they were writting the code to support graphic cards. They can't write support code for cards not on the market yet. Correct but they new about the 8800 cards being released and Nvidia would have provided them with the resources to optimise their code, although I doubt the developers could have done anything to improve the code anyway they are already useless. Either way Sigil has known about this issue and has had fair amount of time to work on it, unfortunately they can't work on it because the fact is they are too busy still trying to fix issues that are simple and numerous and it looks like they are having trouble even doing that.

I agree they were too busy with more fundamentals...BUT ..you are wrong about the rest. The code has already seen vast improvements ...AND....this work is being done with a minimal staff as they are currently rotating through some well deserved time off. Nothing is " simple" in the pc world. You do not have any clue what it takes to develope a mmo...neither do I...but I can safely assume it's NOT simple....particularly in a mmo that has as so many things going on at once...like Vanguard does. When you write and develope your own mmo...I'll sit down and listen to you tell me how " simple " it is...untill then...you are not in a position to judge.

The 8800 is a particular issue because it's ALOT different than 6000 and 7000 series cards due to the up and coming dx10 upgrades.

EDIT: Also give up on the SOE charade. We are VG realists, we are not haters, give up on calling us haters, we are realists because we see things as they are, not their past nor their future. We have nothing against SOE, look at my played games, do you see ANY former SOE games in there? No? There is only VG. To judge a book by it's cover is not only ignorant, it is folish. I wouldn't have touched LotRO if I did, nor would I touch a few promising games in the near-future.

Oh...I understand the bitter slant to your words. You ARE one of the SoE haters. If it walks like a duck....sounds like a duck...it must be a duck. SoE is no better or worse than any other big corporate company. I tend to think they are better than most. Sure they make mistakes....get over it. Either way...Sigil is still currently calling the shots not SoE...though I'm sure they have influence. What if the mess up the game? ...so what..I'll go play another and not lose a bit of sleep over it either because computer games ..in the end...are not very important. It's entertainment with little if any lasting value at all.

Read my second EDIT on my first post, your ignorance is quite annoying. I havn't touched an SOE game in terms of subscribing besides VG.

Funny you say an mmo is not so simple yet how come Turbine seemed to be getting it right. The fact is your reply to that will consist of nonsense and your own thoughts which are nothing BUT thoughts. Go ahead and tell me again that VG is more complicated and has more going on in the game. You will just be proving your own point.

You do not have any clue what it takes to develope a mmo....untill then...you are not in a position to judge

your words

Originally posted by OrionStar

Originally posted by Thony

Originally posted by OrionStar

Originally posted by matraque

Originally posted by OrionStar
It doesn't matter what you do to upgrade your system.  Vanguard will still run like crap.  I would say if your "happy" with Eve and Ryzom,  then I suggest you stay with those games.  Vanguard, will only cause stress and lots of it.

Comming from a SWG player, i find your comment rather funny ;)

Eh,  I just started playing SWG again 3 weeks ago.  I never really jumped on the Bash SOE band wagon.  I like Star Wars :).

But Vanguard does run like crap... on your computer maybe doesn't neccecary means it will run crap on every computer

I know the game is currently riddled with bugs but I have a great deal of patience. I just find the game interesting.

Excellent attitude, you will like, maybe love or maybe hate Vanguard that all depence on a lot of things, if it will run alright if not now maybe in the weeks to come, but know it's closer to EQ then for like Ryzon or Eve. Also expect to get into a world that at times might make you feel lost maybe evenso from the start as it is you that can make the life and it's not the game that is gonna hold your hand to guide you everywhere, might be something to get use to or maybe already wanting something like that out of a game, who knows only you can tell, do hope to see a response of you when you have tried Vanguard.

Ok, so you want to start blaming my system.  Well here it is, my specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Processor
P5NE-SLI NForce board
Corsair Dominator 2GB 800
Soundblaster Extreme Gamer Fatality Pro Sound card.
XFX 8800GTX
600 Watt PSU SLI
Windows Vista Ultimate. (No don't blame Vista either.  Because it isn't vistas problem.)

So I think your derogatory statement is invalid now.  So go think of something else to blame... wait... I know blame Sigil and SOE because it's their fault for the performance of the game. 

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