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  GFulls

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Joined: 7/29/04
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OP  3/15/07 10:19:36 AM#1

Vanguard: Saga of Heroes updates some fixes and gives news on visible helmets.

Character Rollback Issue Fix

We have fixed an issue that was causing a very small amount of players to experience rollbacks. This fix will go in with the next patch, and should solve nearly all rollback problems.

Visible Helmets

Visible helmets are high on our list of things to do. Many of our artists are currently taking some well deserved vacation time after working themselves silly for the last several months - however, as soon as they are back, work on these will begin. We will keep you updated!

Read more here.

  User Deleted
3/15/07 10:23:42 AM#2
Like any 1 at sigil deserve a vacation, with any luck they will crash on a deserted island and live their lives running away from polar bears.  And even they they will try and bumpmap everything.
  CaesarsGhost

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The only difference between a Troll and a Fanboi is which side of the fence they stand on.

3/15/07 10:42:05 AM#3
How is it that 3.5-4 years down the road they need a vacation?  What, exactly, were they doing that whole time?

...cause it definately wasn't code...

Or maybe that's what they did!  They let the artists code. "This letter looks pretty, lets put it there... how do I add a specular map to the letter a?"

- CaesarsGhost

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  TedDanson

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3/15/07 11:25:02 AM#4

Already 2 trolls have come out of their caves with their clubs at the ready!

Anyway, on topic, helmets should've been in update #1 seeing as they are pretty important. Whatever, my character doesn't even have a helmet currently so I am not really concerned about it just yet.

  Amathe

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3/15/07 11:29:06 AM#5

What a trvial little piece of "news." Please stop putting everything this game does down as news. Hardly anyone is even playing it, so nobody cares about a tiny little tweak. in a game only a tiny percentage of the game market is even playing.

Brad ate a bagel for breakfast. News at 7. Give me a break.

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  Shoal

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3/15/07 11:33:57 AM#6

ROFLMAO

V:SoH is so  HARDCORE, you don't even have to die to lose Exp, Loot, and Levels.   Now,  *that*  is some Hardcore gaming.

But, not to worry.  Soon you will be able to see some Helmet graphics!

Put a Helmet on that guy, will ya!

  Ferretboy

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Joined: 8/18/04
Posts: 57

3/15/07 11:47:26 AM#7
Originally posted by CaesarsGhost
How is it that 3.5-4 years down the road they need a vacation?  What, exactly, were they doing that whole time?

...cause it definately wasn't code...

Or maybe that's what they did!  They let the artists code. "This letter looks pretty, lets put it there... how do I add a specular map to the letter a?"

CG, you should show some professional courtesy!  Or... are you no longer the community manager at Rapid Reality??
  Yukkione

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Joined: 10/28/05
Posts: 624

3/15/07 11:53:42 AM#8
Shoal said "

And that would make V:SoH what?  The most Unpolished Turd in all of gaming?

Anyway.  Last post here.  Sorry for the short hijack."

So make it your last post here. If you're not playing VG just stay off this board as you said. We know you don't like the game. Now that VG has been out over a month how about the people that havent played the current game just take your advice.

As to the topic...Of the over two hundred people in my guild I know of only a few that have expierienced a roll back. Having this fix will be welcomed but the problem hardly affected the whole player base. Helmets would be nice but I really don't care.
  Dento

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Joined: 1/21/06
Posts: 141

3/15/07 11:55:15 AM#9
Originally posted by Shoal

ROFLMAO

V:SoH is so  HARDCORE, you don't even have to die to lose Exp, Loot, and Levels.   Now,  *that*  is some Hardcore gaming.

But, not to worry.  Soon you will be able to see some Helmet graphics!

Put a Helmet on that guy, will ya!

LMAO

that was funny

 

But I don't understand why they want some of this stuff to go public when people are just going to bash them.

They keep saying how hard they are working to fix bugs and get missing pieces(like helmet graphics) in place but then they say most of the artists are on vacation so we'll get to when we get them back. I guess they can't get to it without the artists so why even make the statement. People who have paid for the game that feel that it's incomplete don't want to hear that and it really does make you ask the question what have they been doing all these years? I guess a couple months work with a couple months off will set your production back a bit.

/shrug


  Salvatoris

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3/15/07 12:50:12 PM#10
Originally posted by TedDanson

Already 2 trolls have come out of their caves with their clubs at the ready!

Anyway, on topic, helmets should've been in update #1 seeing as they are pretty important. Whatever, my character doesn't even have a helmet currently so I am not really concerned about it just yet.


Yeah.. I guess I am a troll too, because my first thought was that none of those guys should be on vacation right now.  They launched a game in a terrible, buggy, half-finished state, and decided now that the cash is flowing in, it's time to take a vacation.  That may be the least professional thing they have done so far... and that's really saying something.  What makes it seem so bad to me is that they acknowledge the fact that the game was launched early and that they have a lot of work to do to get it in shape... right after vacation.

As far as helmets go.. they should not have been in update #1, they should have been in at launch.  To be clear, helms are in the game, they just aren't visible.  If the game didn't even have helms and they were being added, that would be new content.. something to crow about... but the fact that they are finally resolving a bug that should have been handled prior to launch... please. 

Brad is so disconnected from the real world.  He lives in this time-warp where it's still 1999 and people only have one or two options for an MMO to play.  He is surrounded by yes men, I assume they have to kiss his butt to keep their jobs, as they don't seem to work very hard or be particularly good at what they do.  No one outside of handful of fanboys think this game is anywhere near as great as Brad does.  He honestly believes it was OK launch the game is shit-shape, as long as eventually they get things ironed out.  That attitude might have flown 5 years ago, but now there is quite a bit more competition in the MMO market.  By the time this game is in a playable state, in a year or two when we all have machines that will run it, there will be 10 other big name MMOs competing for the same subscriber fees.  This game can barley draw a crown when it's only competing against the last generation of games.  I think he is in for a rude awakening when he is vying for shelf-space against Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, Lord of the Rings Online, Star Trek Online, Gods and Heroes, Stargate worlds and the 500 Korean MMOs that are releasing in the next 12 months.  In a year this game will be another bad, dark and light, memory.

Maybe he already realizes this, and he is like the band on the Titanic, smiling and playing on as the ship goes down... but I don't think that is the case. I think he has spent so much time getting his ass kissed for his accomplishments nearly a decade ago that he is detached from the reality of todays gaming market.  You fanboys do him a great disservice by perpetuating the attitude that everything is peachy... despite every single review of the game shining a spotlight on the truth... this game wasn't ready for release, not even close.... and when it is finally running fairly bug-free, it will still be a clone of a 10 year old game.  Here's hoping this is the last time any publisher trusts him with their money.

 

  somonekilwow

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Posts: 98

3/15/07 12:57:17 PM#11
too bad im still playing this game just waiting for somthing to come out thats decent and wont be a let down

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  CaesarsGhost

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The only difference between a Troll and a Fanboi is which side of the fence they stand on.

3/15/07 1:20:03 PM#12
Originally posted by Ferretboy
Originally posted by CaesarsGhost
How is it that 3.5-4 years down the road they need a vacation?  What, exactly, were they doing that whole time?

...cause it definately wasn't code...

Or maybe that's what they did!  They let the artists code. "This letter looks pretty, lets put it there... how do I add a specular map to the letter a?"

CG, you should show some professional courtesy!  Or... are you no longer the community manager at Rapid Reality??
No longer.  Trust me, if you think that's bad you should see what I've said about Phylon (RR's current release).

I sortof have professional respect for Sigil.  My respect stops when it takes more patience cause of crashes to run the retail game then it takes to run Alpha's on the market.  I've got 2 GE boxes... I'm pretty upset.

That and there's a huge difference to a "Self Proclaimed WoW Killer" and some small Indy studio release... there's just more expected.

- CaesarsGhost

Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."

  Shoal

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3/15/07 1:34:58 PM#13
Originally posted by Yukkione
Shoal said "

And that would make V:SoH what?  The most Unpolished Turd in all of gaming?

Anyway.  Last post here.  Sorry for the short hijack."

So make it your last post here. If you're not playing VG just stay off this board as you said. We know you don't like the game. Now that VG has been out over a month how about the people that havent played the current game just take your advice.

As to the topic...Of the over two hundred people in my guild I know of only a few that have expierienced a roll back. Having this fix will be welcomed but the problem hardly affected the whole player base. Helmets would be nice but I really don't care.


It was my last post on a *different*  thread.

It is my pleasure to come here on the V:SoH boards and expose the VanBoiz for the liars that they are.  I don't like the game.  I don't like the people running it.  And I certainly don't respect a few of the folks playing it, and who are pushing it as something worth playing.

And, you say that you personally, out of all the thousands and thousands of V:SoH players, actually know a number of players that have been Rolled-Back by the game?  Do you realise how many actual players that must have been hit by that, if you personally know a number of them?   The actual number of Roll-Backs must be huge!

Anyways, V:SoH deserves all the bad press that all the cheated purchasers can heap upon it.  Perhaps I would be more forgiving if I had been able to get a refund for the unfinished product I was sold.  But, since there was no refund, then V:SoH deserves all the bad press I can muster.  If only to prevent one more soul from getting Ripped-Off.

  Fariic

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3/15/07 1:40:50 PM#14
Originally posted by CaesarsGhost
How is it that 3.5-4 years down the road they need a vacation?  What, exactly, were they doing that whole time?

...cause it definately wasn't code...

Or maybe that's what they did!  They let the artists code. "This letter looks pretty, lets put it there... how do I add a specular map to the letter a?"

People don't deserve a vacation after 4 years?  Man, everyone should have your work ethic then the world would be perfect.

VG isn't the first game to release without helmets, but unlike some they are being added.

I do agree though.  I wish this site would stop linking new of this game just so that the stooges that keep posting hate threads can have a vacation to.

  CaesarsGhost

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The only difference between a Troll and a Fanboi is which side of the fence they stand on.

3/15/07 1:51:58 PM#15
Originally posted by Fariic
Originally posted by CaesarsGhost
How is it that 3.5-4 years down the road they need a vacation?  What, exactly, were they doing that whole time?

...cause it definately wasn't code...

Or maybe that's what they did!  They let the artists code. "This letter looks pretty, lets put it there... how do I add a specular map to the letter a?"

People don't deserve a vacation after 4 years?  Man, everyone should have your work ethic then the world would be perfect.

VG isn't the first game to release without helmets, but unlike some they are being added.

I do agree though.  I wish this site would stop linking new of this game just so that the stooges that keep posting hate threads can have a vacation to.

Ya know... I can't remember the last time I took a vacation for myself that wasn't just 1 day (which was my birthday and I was getting a conjugal visit... and I worked from home to be honest).

Every other vacation was for a purpose of my parents or siblings request for a birthday or holiday or (upcoming) weddings.

Even sick days... I don't take em.  I go to work when I'm sick...

- CaesarsGhost

Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."

  User Deleted
3/15/07 2:10:45 PM#16
Originally posted by CaesarsGhost
Originally posted by Fariic
Originally posted by CaesarsGhost
How is it that 3.5-4 years down the road they need a vacation?  What, exactly, were they doing that whole time?

...cause it definately wasn't code...

Or maybe that's what they did!  They let the artists code. "This letter looks pretty, lets put it there... how do I add a specular map to the letter a?"

People don't deserve a vacation after 4 years?  Man, everyone should have your work ethic then the world would be perfect.

VG isn't the first game to release without helmets, but unlike some they are being added.

I do agree though.  I wish this site would stop linking new of this game just so that the stooges that keep posting hate threads can have a vacation to.

Ya know... I can't remember the last time I took a vacation for myself that wasn't just 1 day (which was my birthday and I was getting a conjugal visit... and I worked from home to be honest).

Every other vacation was for a purpose of my parents or siblings request for a birthday or holiday or (upcoming) weddings.

Even sick days... I don't take em.  I go to work when I'm sick...


I feel sorry for you. Take at least a months vacation and discover life, maybe play some with your kids if you have any or spend some time just relaxing. I'm 100% sure it will do you good

I really enjoy Vanguard, but I am also questioning putting a thing like this in the news section, do you put all games bug fixes in the news?

  Shroom_Mage

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3/15/07 2:11:25 PM#17


Originally posted by cupertino
Like any 1 at sigil deserve a vacation, with any luck they will crash on a deserted island and live their lives running away from polar bears. And even they they will try and bumpmap everything.

As unnecesary as that is, I do find the comment about bumpmapping everything funny.


Originally posted by Amathe
What a trvial little piece of "news." Please stop putting everything this game does down as news. Hardly anyone is even playing it, so nobody cares about a tiny little tweak. in a game only a tiny percentage of the game market is even playing.
Brad ate a bagel for breakfast. News at 7. Give me a break.

Nobody playing, eh? No one (should have) expected it to top WoW, but I consider it in the same league as EQ2, and although most of the trolls on these boards think that's a poopy league, it's certainly much more than "a tiny percentage." I think I should point something else out. This update was intended for the people who do play the game. Nobody is making you read this.


Originally posted by CaesarsGhost
That and there's a huge difference to a "Self Proclaimed WoW Killer" and some small Indy studio release... there's just more expected.

Okay, Mr. Troll, find for me, if you will, one place where anyone from Sigil has ever proclaimed Vanguard to be a WoW-killer. As I recall, Brad specifically said it would not be a WoW-killer after numerous fanboys started foretelling the end of WoW. Just because you expected something to happen and got let down doesn't mean it was ever supposed to happen.


A few more things. First, these little updates they keep emailing me about are... pretty annoying. This is trivial news. In fact, it's not even an update. It's just sort of a "We're on it!" Plus, helmets really should have been in at launch, or at least in Update #1. They have screenshots of helmets! Some NPC's even wear turbans. Where's my turban, dammit?!

Second, why the *%&# do people keep coming around here and trashing Vanguard? Do you honestly have no lives at all that you spend ALL DAY ranting about a game you don't like, may or may not have played, and have no intention of playing, unprovoked, in that game's forum?! Oh, that's right. They're trolls.

Finally, the only negative thing anyone can ever seem to say about Vanguard is its bugs. YES, it has bugs! They patch every week with numerous bug fixes. Do they get them all? No! Do I care? No! Face it, the game is totally playable if you have the computer it's meant for. Every class in the game feels like a finished class, crafting is fun and worthwhile, and diplomacy is something totally new. When all the noticable bugs are cleared, the only thing left will be a damn good game. Sadly, there won't be as many people around to see that, but will I care? Do I really want to be playing the most popular game in the world? No. If all I cared about was the game's popularity, I'd still be playing WoW. I judge a game by its content, not the number of subscriptions.

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." -Dr. Seuss

  Shroom_Mage

Novice Member

Joined: 9/21/05
Posts: 871

It's all or nothin'!

3/15/07 2:14:01 PM#18


Originally posted by Shoal

Originally posted by Yukkione
Shoal said "
And that would make V:SoH what?  The most Unpolished Turd in all of gaming?
Anyway.  Last post here.  Sorry for the short hijack."

So make it your last post here. If you're not playing VG just stay off this board as you said. We know you don't like the game. Now that VG has been out over a month how about the people that havent played the current game just take your advice.

As to the topic...Of the over two hundred people in my guild I know of only a few that have expierienced a roll back. Having this fix will be welcomed but the problem hardly affected the whole player base. Helmets would be nice but I really don't care.


It was my last post on a *different*  thread.
It is my pleasure to come here on the V:SoH boards and expose the VanBoiz for the liars that they are.  I don't like the game.  I don't like the people running it.  And I certainly don't respect a few of the folks playing it, and who are pushing it as something worth playing.
And, you say that you personally, out of all the thousands and thousands of V:SoH players, actually know a number of players that have been Rolled-Back by the game?  Do you realise how many actual players that must have been hit by that, if you personally know a number of them?   The actual number of Roll-Backs must be huge!
Anyways, V:SoH deserves all the bad press that all the cheated purchasers can heap upon it.  Perhaps I would be more forgiving if I had been able to get a refund for the unfinished product I was sold.  But, since there was no refund, then V:SoH deserves all the bad press I can muster.  If only to prevent one more soul from getting Ripped-Off.


So you admit that you're a troll.

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." -Dr. Seuss

  aerograd

Novice Member

Joined: 3/09/07
Posts: 54

3/15/07 2:16:12 PM#19

Maybe it's just me since I've only been playing VG a couple of weeks now and many bugs have apparently been fixed since launch. I am not getting the huge amount of bugs that I hear about on the forums though. 

I have had mobs warp on top of me, or even behind me. I stop dead in my tracks for several seconds when crossing a chunk line.  I have seen some NPC hovering in mid-air.  Of course I don't see the helms, but that doesn't bother me really.  I have had a couple of quests that I had to abandon and then get them again later to get them to work.  But these aren't big deals to me.  Certainly within what is expected at the launch of an MMO.  I played SWG on launch day while so many ppl were saying it was buggy and unfinished and stuff.  The best times I had in SWG were those first few months before the changes started coming!

I understand some problems are due to ppl's PCs.  Here is what I got (recently bought mainly for the purpose of playing several of the new MMORPG coming out within the next 6-18 months):

eVGA nFORCE 680i SLI mobo 2.13 GHz Core 2 Duo
1 GB Corsair DDR2 800
NVIDIA GeForce 7950GT 512MB
XP Pro SP2

What are some of the other supposedly game killing bugs that people are seeing?? 

Maybe I'm lucky or maybe I managed my expectations better with VG since I had very high hopes for Dark and Light at one time too.

Playing WoT now.

Favorite All-Time Games: Ultima Online, Star Wars Galaxies, Lord of the Rings Online

  CaesarsGhost

Novice Member

Joined: 4/03/04
Posts: 2145

The only difference between a Troll and a Fanboi is which side of the fence they stand on.

3/15/07 2:20:10 PM#20
Originally posted by Shroom_Mage

 

 


Originally posted by CaesarsGhost
That and there's a huge difference to a "Self Proclaimed WoW Killer" and some small Indy studio release... there's just more expected.

Okay, Mr. Troll, find for me, if you will, one place where anyone from Sigil has ever proclaimed Vanguard to be a WoW-killer. As I recall, Brad specifically said it would not be a WoW-killer after numerous fanboys started foretelling the end of WoW. Just because you expected something to happen and got let down doesn't mean it was ever supposed to happen.


A few more things. First, these little updates they keep emailing me about are... pretty annoying. This is trivial news. In fact, it's not even an update. It's just sort of a "We're on it!" Plus, helmets really should have been in at launch, or at least in Update #1. They have screenshots of helmets! Some NPC's even wear turbans. Where's my turban, dammit?!

Second, why the *%&# do people keep coming around here and trashing Vanguard? Do you honestly have no lives at all that you spend ALL DAY ranting about a game you don't like, may or may not have played, and have no intention of playing, unprovoked, in that game's forum?! Oh, that's right. They're trolls.

Finally, the only negative thing anyone can ever seem to say about Vanguard is its bugs. YES, it has bugs! They patch every week with numerous bug fixes. Do they get them all? No! Do I care? No! Face it, the game is totally playable if you have the computer it's meant for. Every class in the game feels like a finished class, crafting is fun and worthwhile, and diplomacy is something totally new. When all the noticable bugs are cleared, the only thing left will be a damn good game. Sadly, there won't be as many people around to see that, but will I care? Do I really want to be playing the most popular game in the world? No. If all I cared about was the game's popularity, I'd still be playing WoW. I judge a game by its content, not the number of subscriptions.


First:
I'm not a troll.  I got into game and it crashed regularly... there's no reason for me to have to type "/flush" ever 30 mins... what's that about?
I read about the "Self Proclaimed WoW killer" a year ago in PC Gamer.  Twas on the cover.

Second:
I have the computer... unless you cound the E6600/GF8800/2G-DDR2 something that shouldn't be able to run the game.  Last I checked, all my hardware was listed on "Gamespy's Hardware Configuration of 07"... shouldn't it run the game in that case?  Why are the requirements higher then Crysis?

Third:
How is it that so many people I know got burned by Vanguard, and we speak ill of it... even on these boards there's tons of people.  It would appear, from my position, that you're a Troll.  I think you're the Troll...

After all - The only difference between a Troll and a Fanboi is which side of the fence they stand on.

...I'm totally putting that in my sig!

- CaesarsGhost

Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."

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