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  Anofalye

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Joined: 11/19/03
Posts: 7423

The enemy is so dumb! They believe that WE are the enemy! - A famous orc commander.

3/13/07 7:32:37 AM#21

Uh....

 

You have been slain by XYP and LOSE yadayadayada.

 

This game is provided to you by Z!

 

LOSE = Z!

 

Advertising IN GAME is a bad idea, when I died I am pissed and unhappy, advertising at that precise moment is very bad for anyone, as I am unhappy and...pissed...so I will be conditionned to HATE whoever is advertising.  At the load in and load out, sure, at the server selection menu as long as once per day (not everytime I crash, since if I see advertising at each crash I will blame the crashes as been done purposefully and stop playing the game), sure...but every time I do X, Y or P in a game?  Bad idea, especially if I died and am unhappy.

- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - René Levesque about the denial NO on the poll to his dream, project and goal. (Free translation)

  User Deleted
3/13/07 8:49:59 AM#22
Advertising at log in would make sense in a free to play game. I'm not paying for it so I can't really say much about it.  Placing it anywhere else seems like it would have an adverse effect. Like the above poster pointed out, how could it benefit an advertiser to show his wares to a person that is pissed off? I just died in a 1v30 fight and the people that killed me are sitting on my face?  Probably wound't be too inclined to buy a product if I was forced to see that THEY were responsible for bringing me such a lynching.  Putting the advertisements at log out is equally dumb in that the player is leaving the game world and has no reason to sit at his computer and watch it. My computer is on from the time I wake up until I go to bed even if I only use it for a couple of minutes because hot then cold repeatedly is always worse for electronics than always one or the other. This only means that when I log out of a game, why would I even bother to watch the advert? I would just walk away from the comp and do whatever it was that I was going to do after anyways. That is however, assuming that the adverts were obtrusive and long. If they were 10 seconds or less I'm sure my brain can handle ignoring them for that long. 

Human nature is to reject what is FORCED upon us. Not because its bad. Not because we hate it. But because it was forced upon us without our consent. But above all that, is that I've noticed that most advertising is irrelevet to most people to begin with. The vast majority of what I use in my daily life and even the games I play came from word of mouth or from reviews from 3rd party people. Writing this I've been trying to think of one product in my house that I bought because of an advertisement and I am coming up with nothing except my cable internet itself. Six years ago a salesman came to my door and convinced me that dial up was garbage. And even that, it took a much longer conversation than the multitude of commercials on tv to make me want the product.
  vingvega

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Joined: 2/09/07
Posts: 592

3/13/07 8:52:35 AM#23
Crap advertising for a crap, dead game.
  damian7

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Joined: 4/20/06
Posts: 4514

why must i be nice to people that have no clue, are lying, or are just stupid?

5/12/07 4:23:35 PM#24
Originally posted by thepatriot
Originally posted by Garrik

 

 

It all sounded ok until the in game textures part, that could destroy immersion seeing present day things in a fantasy world. I hope they dont mess this up.

Garrik

Not trying to be critical here, but is Shadowbane really about immersion?  Isn't it more about warfare and ganking?  Again, not trying to be insulting here, I was just wondering.  IMO of all the fantasy MMOs out there, this is the least immersive due to the nature of the game mechanics and the point of the game. 

which other game has warring nations/factions actually fighting?       what happened to elves hating dwarves?  what happened to orcs hating elves?  where's the WAR in world of WARcraft?  if your idea of immersion is a 12 year old having his underwear clad night elf female toon dancing for dollars in ironforge, then i can see how you could make your statement.  aren't there huge armies doing combat in most fantasy stories?  elric of melnibone', draonlance, lord of the rings, pretty much any fantasy book/movie that comes to mind had huge armies waging wars.  where is that in all the other fantasy mmos?

i see a cox toon for your avatar.  immersion.  the 5th column's name was changed because it was too directly related to nazis.  they are now the council.  YET, the (rudolph) hess task force still exists.  one of hitler's main henchmen = hess.  yet, if you make any sort of a toon with a nazi-esque name, based upon real people, you'll get renamed and flamed by cox fanbois.   just wondering about that indiscrepancy.

 

ontopic:  is shadowbane pay2play?  is shadowbane + all expansions free2play?   if it is, are they reducing the cost because of said advertising?  if not, then this is crap.
i say advertise any/everything you want, just let me play for free.   using cox as an example again, there are billboards up all over the place in the cities and such, and signs here and there.  if they wanted to put REAL adverts on them and reduce my monthly bill to free or say to $5; then, i'd be all for the adverts.  of course, if there were TOO many, i'd definitely expect free2play.

 

could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

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