General Discussion

I just read this in another thread about the billions that Blizzard is making. It really deserves its own thread I think as I believe there is some truth to it. Zax man may have hit a nerve of truth regarding different company customer respect and loyalty. Blizzard does seem to take full credit for all their success almost like they fully expected wow to easily hit 10 million plus subs. And I also agree that Turbine tries and works very hard to give back to their paying customers and fans with live events and content additions to even a small niche game like AC.

Anyhow, Zax prolly said it better here. I've copied and pasted his remarks:

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World of Warcraft is a genius game but it also offers very little innovation and offering back to their paying customers who are making them hundreds of millions of dollars per year in pure profit. Regardless of the math, I guarantee you that their pure profit is easily in the hundreds of millions per year off of this one game.

Look at Asherons Call. 15,000 subs tops these days. Not 8.5 million. That means that Asherons Call has like 1/6th of 1% of the active subscriptions of WoW as of right now. That's right... ONE-SIXTH OF ONE PERCENT. Turbine, after 8 years is still offering monthly events and patches and new content to Asherons Call. FREE. There's already been many dozens of FREE monthly events, patches and new content added to the world of Dereth in Asherons Call. Surely with hundreds of millions of pure profit per year, Blizzard could atleast offer some kind of FREE new content to WoW without charging $40 for it. But they don't need to. So they won't. That's corporate greed of the worst kind.

Many of you hate Turbine and have oodles of respect for Blizzard. I can understand that from a quality of product standpoint. But watch Lord of The Rings Online closely. Even though Turbine is bound to have their biggest and most successful game by far with LOTRO, they will STILL put out all kinds of FREE downloads and content for their upcoming game. It will probably come at a monthly rate, if not even faster. It will be HUGE expansions to the LOTRO virtual world and HUGE content additions. And it will all be at absolutely no cost. That's right... zero additional cost besides their $9.99 to $14.99 monthly fee. Just watch. Just watch also at how the customer support for LOTRO will absolutely BLOW AWAY the customer support offered now by Blizzard for WOW. Just watch.

As far as treating their customers with the respect they deserve for helping to make them successful, Turbine beats up Blizzard in this area about 10,000 to 1.

Consider all that and tell me again how much greater Blizzard is then Turbine. Seriously. Just think about it.

- Zaxx
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oh, forgot to add a poll.
here we go:

What is your point? I play the game and still enjoy it. I have more important, REAL LIFE, issues to worry about instead of pondering what amount of money Blizzard makes. I pay to enjoy myself in a virtual world, and WoW is doing exactly that!

P.s.: When comparing Blizzard to Turbine, take ALL games into account, not just WoW. WoW exists for about 2 years now, and turbine has been at it for 8 years (?). Thats like comparing a junior programmer to a senior programmer. And besides....who cares?

Originally posted by BizkitNL

What is your point? I play the game and still enjoy it. I have more important, REAL LIFE, issues to worry about instead of pondering what amount of money Blizzard makes. I pay to enjoy myself in a virtual world, and WoW is doing exactly that!

P.s.: When comparing Blizzard to Turbine, take ALL games into account, not just WoW. WoW exists for about 2 years now, and turbine has been at it for 8 years (?). Thats like comparing a junior programmer to a senior programmer. And besides....who cares?

Hey, webmaster (not OP):

Isn't it time to change the address from mmorpg.com to something like this:

lets-put-our-heads-together-and-find-more-ways-to-mock-blizzard.com ??

This site is excellent, but if you remove all the childish attempts to mock Blizzard, the free space on your servers would probably increase with a couple of TB...

Originally posted by Netspook

Hey, webmaster (not OP):

Isn't it time to change the address from mmorpg.com to something like this:

lets-put-our-heads-together-and-find-more-ways-to-mock-blizzard.com ??

This site is excellent, but if you remove all the childish attempts to mock Blizzard, the free space on your servers would probably increase with a couple of TB...

/agree

I think the webmaster's should make another site www.letsflameblizzandwow.com , im pretty sure they would get alotta hits and posts and free up all this crap they post here

Originally posted by Horusra
Turbine has also shown that they are horrible at reading markets and giving players what they want....i.e. AC2.  They create a niche that gets them status, AC1, then ignore what that niche wants and creates an EQ clone AC2 and fail.  Lets hope that they learned something from this.  Free content could not save AC2.