First of all if you ever played Lineage 2 you'd know right off that the models in this game looks like a direct rip from Lineage 2 + the terrain looks almost identical.

Not to mention it was the chinese who hacked into NCSOFT Korea's server and stole some of the original server for Lineage 2, thus all the Private Server Lineage 2 out there in the world today.

Anyone who's ever played Lineage 2 can see that this is a clone of Lineage 2.  Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if NCSOFT went after these guys for copyright infringement..but hey in China copyright means squat.  After all they seem to steal/copy most of their stuff anyway and try to repackage it.

Sorry to sound harsh but it is what it is.

Originally posted by Rha-EL

First of all if you ever played Lineage 2 you'd know right off that the models in this game looks like a direct rip from Lineage 2 + the terrain looks almost identical.

Not to mention it was the chinese who hacked into NCSOFT Korea's server and stole some of the original server for Lineage 2, thus all the Private Server Lineage 2 out there in the world today.

Anyone who's ever played Lineage 2 can see that this is a clone of Lineage 2.  Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if NCSOFT went after these guys for copyright infringement..but hey in China copyright means squat.  After all they seem to steal/copy most of their stuff anyway and try to repackage it.

Sorry to sound harsh but it is what it is.

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

First of all if you ever played Lineage 2 you'd know right off that the models in this game looks like a direct rip from Lineage 2 + the terrain looks almost identical.

Not to mention it was the chinese who hacked into NCSOFT Korea's server and stole some of the original server for Lineage 2, thus all the Private Server Lineage 2 out there in the world today.

Anyone who's ever played Lineage 2 can see that this is a clone of Lineage 2.  Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if NCSOFT went after these guys for copyright infringement..but hey in China copyright means squat.  After all they seem to steal/copy most of their stuff anyway and try to repackage it.

Sorry to sound harsh but it is what it is.

Its amazing how you can already declare something a clone you never even PLAYED yet.  also, what does it matters it were chinese who hacked the ncsoft server? Nice attempt to bring the topic off-topic.

Off topic?  Aren't  you the one resorting to flaming here in this post?  How is it off-topic when it IS a fact that the Chinese DID hack into NCSOFT Korea servers and stole the base code for Lineage 2?  How is it also off-topic when after seeing the you-tube videos that are posted in this thread, the uncanny resemblance to terrain and character models are virtual clones of those that currently exist in Lineage 2?  Are YOU blind?

Maybe you should actually read what I've posted?

We are talking about this game in relation to specific games that have been listed in this topic's title.  One of which is SPECIFICALLY Lineage 2.  If you deny that you can't see how exactly similar the two games are in look and feel than maybe its time you go for an eye exam.

Also, it is a huge concern of mine that China has continually brushed off international copyright laws and acts like they couldn't care less of other people's intellectual rights.  Why do you think foreign companies are now doing a double take on going into China at all?  It is STILL a communist state.  Don't forget that. 

Originally posted by Rha-EL

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

First of all if you ever played Lineage 2 you'd know right off that the models in this game looks like a direct rip from Lineage 2 + the terrain looks almost identical.

Not to mention it was the chinese who hacked into NCSOFT Korea's server and stole some of the original server for Lineage 2, thus all the Private Server Lineage 2 out there in the world today.

Anyone who's ever played Lineage 2 can see that this is a clone of Lineage 2.  Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if NCSOFT went after these guys for copyright infringement..but hey in China copyright means squat.  After all they seem to steal/copy most of their stuff anyway and try to repackage it.

Sorry to sound harsh but it is what it is.

Its amazing how you can already declare something a clone you never even PLAYED yet.  also, what does it matters it were chinese who hacked the ncsoft server? Nice attempt to bring the topic off-topic.

Off topic?  Aren't  you the one resorting to flaming here in this post?  How is it off-topic when it IS a fact that the Chinese DID hack into NCSOFT Korea servers and stole the base code for Lineage 2?  How is it also off-topic when after seeing the you-tube videos that are posted in this thread, the uncanny resemblance to terrain and character models are virtual clones of those that currently exist in Lineage 2?  Are YOU blind?

eh, maybe because this topic is about Perfect World and is not in any way related to source code stolen from NCsoft? Also go look up what the word flaming actually means. Also, the chinese stole the server code, which is used to create the server information.

Maybe you should actually read what I've posted?

We are talking about this game in relation to specific games that have been listed in this topic's title.  One of which is SPECIFICALLY Lineage 2.  If you deny that you can't see how exactly similar the two games are in look and feel than maybe its time you go for an eye exam.

Newsflash: Just because graphics look the same does not mean the game is a clone. that is absolutely rediculous.

Also, it is a huge concern of mine that China has continually brushed off international copyright laws and acts like they couldn't care less of other people's intellectual rights.  Why do you think foreign companies are now doing a double take on going into China at all?  It is STILL a communist state.  Don't forget that.

again, total off-topic and unrelated to the game.

Originally posted by Rha-EL

First of all if you ever played Lineage 2 you'd know right off that the models in this game looks like a direct rip from Lineage 2 + the terrain looks almost identical.

Not to mention it was the chinese who hacked into NCSOFT Korea's server and stole some of the original server for Lineage 2, thus all the Private Server Lineage 2 out there in the world today.

Anyone who's ever played Lineage 2 can see that this is a clone of Lineage 2.  Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if NCSOFT went after these guys for copyright infringement..but hey in China copyright means squat.  After all they seem to steal/copy most of their stuff anyway and try to repackage it.

Sorry to sound harsh but it is what it is.

Hey hey hey.. calm down... I can assure you, this game has NOTHING to do with L2 and it has nothing to do with the chinese stealing L2 content (I agree to the gameloader, thats ridiculous)! L2 runs on the unreal engine, where this game uses a completly different self-made engine!

I really wonder how you can say it looks total identical to L2 (I guess you misinterpreted the movies )... I played L2 myselve for 1.5 years so I know what I am talking about. This game totally feels like WoW with the flair of a chinese myth and some components from FFXI and L2... buts its far away from ANY L2 clone. And thats not just because it has totally different game rules and goals (there is no grind in Perfect World, neighter is there such a harsh PvP, Bot driven economy...).

Just a very small example... in L2 you have fixed models where you can choose from, so in the end nearly everyone looks the same (except wearing different armors). PW is all about customisation... noone will look the same.. the character customisation is the best you will ever see at the moment and there is also a large customisation by the social clothing system etc. ! Maybe you thought they look like the L2 models because you create "chinese looking characters" and they have an asian feelings to it.. but believe me thats all :) ! The game character and game feeling is much more like the movies: "Tiger & Dragon" or "Hero" etc., I guess its all based on this chinese "Pangu" myth!

So I please you to review this game a little more again, before you give such harsh accusation which are really not justified to this beautiful made game!

Kind regards,
LD

First of all its not harsh accusation.  Like you said, all you need to do is play Lineage 2 and then look at the youtube movies for this game and the similarities are so plain its not funny nor can it be disputed.  Its a clone.

How the hell you can say that this game is like WoW when it resembles Lineage 2 so much its bleading with it all over its visualization is just beyond me.  I seriously doubt you played Lineage 2 at all, let alone for 1.5 years.

Lineage 2 is built on the Unreal 2 engine.  The reason why this game doesn't have as much customization is because the developers purposely LEFT IT OUT.  If you played Lineage 2 for 1.5 years you'd know its about mass PvP combat, especially during castle sieges.  All that customization would make YOUR COMPUTER come to a crawl with over hundreds of players running across your computer screen.  You DID say you played Lineage 2 right?  riiiiggghhhhtttt...yeah whatever.

You seriously don't think that if NCSOFT wanted to put customization for their models they can't?  Hell the Unreal 2 engine already comes with built in customization features...and if NCSOFT wanted they could have just implemented THAT.

As for game play being different, I'll give you that.  But my complaint isn't about gameplay.  My complaint is that this game is a RIP OFF of Lineage 2, which it is clearly violationg copyright laws which these people in China could not have EVER gotten away with on U.S. or European soil or any country with a good track record of protecting copyrights.

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

First of all if you ever played Lineage 2 you'd know right off that the models in this game looks like a direct rip from Lineage 2 + the terrain looks almost identical.

Not to mention it was the chinese who hacked into NCSOFT Korea's server and stole some of the original server for Lineage 2, thus all the Private Server Lineage 2 out there in the world today.

Anyone who's ever played Lineage 2 can see that this is a clone of Lineage 2.  Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if NCSOFT went after these guys for copyright infringement..but hey in China copyright means squat.  After all they seem to steal/copy most of their stuff anyway and try to repackage it.

Sorry to sound harsh but it is what it is.

Its amazing how you can already declare something a clone you never even PLAYED yet.  also, what does it matters it were chinese who hacked the ncsoft server? Nice attempt to bring the topic off-topic.

Off topic?  Aren't  you the one resorting to flaming here in this post?  How is it off-topic when it IS a fact that the Chinese DID hack into NCSOFT Korea servers and stole the base code for Lineage 2?  How is it also off-topic when after seeing the you-tube videos that are posted in this thread, the uncanny resemblance to terrain and character models are virtual clones of those that currently exist in Lineage 2?  Are YOU blind?

eh, maybe because this topic is about Perfect World and is not in any way related to source code stolen from NCsoft? Also go look up what the word flaming actually means. Also, the chinese stole the server code, which is used to create the server information.

oh really?  Then why is Lineage 2 mentioned in the post's title?  I guess you just happened not to read that part of it yes?  How quaint.  This topic is about Perfect World in COMPARISON to other games.  In that spirit, I can qualify the fact that the chinese did indeed steal Lineage 2's base code and could have possibly incorporated that into this game, since it resembles and looks like a damn clone.  Again are you blind?

Maybe you should actually read what I've posted?

We are talking about this game in relation to specific games that have been listed in this topic's title.  One of which is SPECIFICALLY Lineage 2.  If you deny that you can't see how exactly similar the two games are in look and feel than maybe its time you go for an eye exam.

Newsflash: Just because graphics look the same does not mean the game is a clone. that is absolutely rediculous.

Newsflash:  You are aware of copyright laws aren't you?  I guess if I cloned you and programmed you to talk and act differently you wouldn't mind?  Please don't make stupid assumptions like this.  I know your smarter.

Also, it is a huge concern of mine that China has continually brushed off international copyright laws and acts like they couldn't care less of other people's intellectual rights.  Why do you think foreign companies are now doing a double take on going into China at all?  It is STILL a communist state.  Don't forget that.

again, total off-topic and unrelated to the game.

It is a part of the topic because this IS a chinese game.  Why don't you start living in the real world?

Originally posted by Gameloading
Because it uses the same graphic style? that is laughable.



Omg! rip off! Blizzard go sue Mythic!

Hey gameloading I know your a little kid and all with absolutely no knowledge of how business works, such as copyright laws, so I'll let this one go, but maybe you should really start to educate yourself before you spout out your mouth as often as you do?

I assume the screenshots you posted here are from warhammer online?  I've read that it uses a different engine than WoW and again maybe you should get your eye examined because the art style is clearly different than WoW.

You seem to be getting the idea of copyriting fantasy characters to art that someone else produced.  You DO know the difference don't you?

Originally posted by Rha-EL

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

First of all if you ever played Lineage 2 you'd know right off that the models in this game looks like a direct rip from Lineage 2 + the terrain looks almost identical.

Not to mention it was the chinese who hacked into NCSOFT Korea's server and stole some of the original server for Lineage 2, thus all the Private Server Lineage 2 out there in the world today.

Anyone who's ever played Lineage 2 can see that this is a clone of Lineage 2.  Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if NCSOFT went after these guys for copyright infringement..but hey in China copyright means squat.  After all they seem to steal/copy most of their stuff anyway and try to repackage it.

Sorry to sound harsh but it is what it is.

Its amazing how you can already declare something a clone you never even PLAYED yet.  also, what does it matters it were chinese who hacked the ncsoft server? Nice attempt to bring the topic off-topic.

Off topic?  Aren't  you the one resorting to flaming here in this post?  How is it off-topic when it IS a fact that the Chinese DID hack into NCSOFT Korea servers and stole the base code for Lineage 2?  How is it also off-topic when after seeing the you-tube videos that are posted in this thread, the uncanny resemblance to terrain and character models are virtual clones of those that currently exist in Lineage 2?  Are YOU blind?

eh, maybe because this topic is about Perfect World and is not in any way related to source code stolen from NCsoft? Also go look up what the word flaming actually means. Also, the chinese stole the server code, which is used to create the server information.

oh really?  Then why is Lineage 2 mentioned in the post's title?  I guess you just happened not to read that part of it yes?  How quaint.  This topic is about Perfect World in COMPARISON to other games.  In that spirit, I can qualify the fact that the chinese did indeed steal Lineage 2's base code and could have possibly incorporated that into this game, since it resembles and looks like a damn clone.  Again are you blind?

The base code? The chinese stole the server code, the code to run servers, which was used to run private servers! that has NOTHING to do with how the game looks or even plays! its completely off-topic!

Maybe you should actually read what I've posted?

We are talking about this game in relation to specific games that have been listed in this topic's title.  One of which is SPECIFICALLY Lineage 2.  If you deny that you can't see how exactly similar the two games are in look and feel than maybe its time you go for an eye exam.

Newsflash: Just because graphics look the same does not mean the game is a clone. that is absolutely rediculous.

Newsflash:  You are aware of copyright laws aren't you?  I guess if I cloned you and programmed you to talk and act differently you wouldn't mind?  Please don't make stupid assumptions like this.  I know your smarter.

You do know that a graphic style can not be copyrighted, right? Perfect World didn't copy any of the textures,animations, or anything else for that matter. It merely uses the same graphic style as Lineage 2, and possible the same Unreal engine. i

Also, it is a huge concern of mine that China has continually brushed off international copyright laws and acts like they couldn't care less of other people's intellectual rights.  Why do you think foreign companies are now doing a double take on going into China at all?  It is STILL a communist state.  Don't forget that.

again, total off-topic and unrelated to the game.

It is a part of the topic because this IS a chinese game.  Why don't you start living in the real world?

except for the fact that no copyright violations have been made, so its completely off-topic.

Originally posted by Rha-EL

First of all its not harsh accusation.  Like you said, all you need to do is play Lineage 2 and then look at the youtube movies for this game and the similarities are so plain its not funny nor can it be disputed.  Its a clone.

How the hell you can say that this game is like WoW when it resembles Lineage 2 so much its bleading with it all over its visualization is just beyond me.  I seriously doubt you played Lineage 2 at all, let alone for 1.5 years.

Lineage 2 is built on the Unreal 2 engine.  The reason why this game doesn't have as much customization is because the developers purposely LEFT IT OUT.  If you played Lineage 2 for 1.5 years you'd know its about mass PvP combat, especially during castle sieges.  All that customization would make YOUR COMPUTER come to a crawl with over hundreds of players running across your computer screen.  You DID say you played Lineage 2 right?  riiiiggghhhhtttt...yeah whatever.

You seriously don't think that if NCSOFT wanted to put customization for their models they can't?  Hell the Unreal 2 engine already comes with built in customization features...and if NCSOFT wanted they could have just implemented THAT.

As for game play being different, I'll give you that.  But my complaint isn't about gameplay.  My complaint is that this game is a RIP OFF of Lineage 2, which it is clearly violationg copyright laws which these people in China could not have EVER gotten away with on U.S. or European soil or any country with a good track record of protecting copyrights.

IF you would have played it you would see it that the ENGINE and the GAME does not feel ANYTHING like L2! Also not the models, just because they look like chinese art style! You dont believe me that I have played L2... okay I can meet you INGAME if you want. I have a Level 77 Gladiator / 65 Necromancer.... (just not subscribed anymore). But I can give plenty of proofe of my account, you can also privatly ask me about all the high level, subclass quests etc. as a proove... !

So please stop assuming what this game is just from some crappy youtube movies... I played this game and I played L2 as well as FFXI and WoW and all I can say is it totally feels like a chinese WoW... very smooth, very nice and different gameplay, no grind, some very nice ideas and overall well put together...

But if you still dont believe me, then you simply have to live with your false assumption.. !

Kind regards,
LD 

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

First of all if you ever played Lineage 2 you'd know right off that the models in this game looks like a direct rip from Lineage 2 + the terrain looks almost identical.

Not to mention it was the chinese who hacked into NCSOFT Korea's server and stole some of the original server for Lineage 2, thus all the Private Server Lineage 2 out there in the world today.

Anyone who's ever played Lineage 2 can see that this is a clone of Lineage 2.  Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if NCSOFT went after these guys for copyright infringement..but hey in China copyright means squat.  After all they seem to steal/copy most of their stuff anyway and try to repackage it.

Sorry to sound harsh but it is what it is.

Its amazing how you can already declare something a clone you never even PLAYED yet.  also, what does it matters it were chinese who hacked the ncsoft server? Nice attempt to bring the topic off-topic.

Off topic?  Aren't  you the one resorting to flaming here in this post?  How is it off-topic when it IS a fact that the Chinese DID hack into NCSOFT Korea servers and stole the base code for Lineage 2?  How is it also off-topic when after seeing the you-tube videos that are posted in this thread, the uncanny resemblance to terrain and character models are virtual clones of those that currently exist in Lineage 2?  Are YOU blind?

eh, maybe because this topic is about Perfect World and is not in any way related to source code stolen from NCsoft? Also go look up what the word flaming actually means. Also, the chinese stole the server code, which is used to create the server information.

oh really?  Then why is Lineage 2 mentioned in the post's title?  I guess you just happened not to read that part of it yes?  How quaint.  This topic is about Perfect World in COMPARISON to other games.  In that spirit, I can qualify the fact that the chinese did indeed steal Lineage 2's base code and could have possibly incorporated that into this game, since it resembles and looks like a damn clone.  Again are you blind?

The base code? The chinese stole the server code, the code to run servers, which was used to run private servers! that has NOTHING to do with how the game looks or even plays! its completely off-topic!

Seriously are you just stupid?  Do you even qualify this as a response?  When I said they stole Lineage 2's server code, that means the WHOLE damn game, get it?  I don't know if you have ever written a piece of code in your life but if you had a clue you'd shove a boot into your mouth before you sound even more stupid by saying something like this.  You steal server code, that means the server version of Lineage 2, which is the whole damn game but the server version....get it?

Maybe you should actually read what I've posted?

We are talking about this game in relation to specific games that have been listed in this topic's title.  One of which is SPECIFICALLY Lineage 2.  If you deny that you can't see how exactly similar the two games are in look and feel than maybe its time you go for an eye exam.

Newsflash: Just because graphics look the same does not mean the game is a clone. that is absolutely rediculous.

Newsflash:  You are aware of copyright laws aren't you?  I guess if I cloned you and programmed you to talk and act differently you wouldn't mind?  Please don't make stupid assumptions like this.  I know your smarter.

You do know that a graphic style can not be copyrighted, right? Perfect World didn't copy any of the textures,animations, or anything else for that matter. It merely uses the same graphic style as Lineage 2, and possible the same Unreal engine. i

lol and how the hell do you know that?  Because they said so?  Using my eyes alone i can see that its a clone of Lineage 2 with the same art style.  Hell most of those character models looks like they copied Lineage 2 models and modified a face style or whatever.  I didn't say they copyright art style.  I said they copyright the art and the use of it and sure looks like they are reusing existing art and textures that already existed in Lineage 2 before this game even was conceived.

Also, it is a huge concern of mine that China has continually brushed off international copyright laws and acts like they couldn't care less of other people's intellectual rights.  Why do you think foreign companies are now doing a double take on going into China at all?  It is STILL a communist state.  Don't forget that.

again, total off-topic and unrelated to the game.

It is a part of the topic because this IS a chinese game.  Why don't you start living in the real world?

except for the fact that no copyright violations have been made, so its completely off-topic.

Again, here you go with your assumption.  How the hell do you know?  Just because it wasn't made in CHINA who doesnt care a shit for copyright in general?  You must be kidding me.  Are you serious?

Actually I don't believe you.  The fact that you had no idea what the core purpose of Lineage 2 tells me a lot about how you "played" the game if you even stepped foot into the game at all.

Sorry but if you don't mind, I will keep believing you have absolutely no clue about what your talking about, when it comes to Lineage 2.  As for this game, hey visuals are proof and I've seen enough of it to chime in and say its a Lineage 2 clone.

cheers.

I have to say, Lineage 2 is probably Eye Candy of the MMO. They probably set the bar for graphics.

WoW set the Bar for Content and PvE capabilities.

Wtf is FFXI? I never touch it, never play it. So why combine that?

GuildWars set the motion for True PvP Competition.

This game seems overrated.

Originally posted by Rha-EL

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

First of all if you ever played Lineage 2 you'd know right off that the models in this game looks like a direct rip from Lineage 2 + the terrain looks almost identical.

Not to mention it was the chinese who hacked into NCSOFT Korea's server and stole some of the original server for Lineage 2, thus all the Private Server Lineage 2 out there in the world today.

Anyone who's ever played Lineage 2 can see that this is a clone of Lineage 2.  Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if NCSOFT went after these guys for copyright infringement..but hey in China copyright means squat.  After all they seem to steal/copy most of their stuff anyway and try to repackage it.

Sorry to sound harsh but it is what it is.

Its amazing how you can already declare something a clone you never even PLAYED yet.  also, what does it matters it were chinese who hacked the ncsoft server? Nice attempt to bring the topic off-topic.

Off topic?  Aren't  you the one resorting to flaming here in this post?  How is it off-topic when it IS a fact that the Chinese DID hack into NCSOFT Korea servers and stole the base code for Lineage 2?  How is it also off-topic when after seeing the you-tube videos that are posted in this thread, the uncanny resemblance to terrain and character models are virtual clones of those that currently exist in Lineage 2?  Are YOU blind?

eh, maybe because this topic is about Perfect World and is not in any way related to source code stolen from NCsoft? Also go look up what the word flaming actually means. Also, the chinese stole the server code, which is used to create the server information.

oh really?  Then why is Lineage 2 mentioned in the post's title?  I guess you just happened not to read that part of it yes?  How quaint.  This topic is about Perfect World in COMPARISON to other games.  In that spirit, I can qualify the fact that the chinese did indeed steal Lineage 2's base code and could have possibly incorporated that into this game, since it resembles and looks like a damn clone.  Again are you blind?

The base code? The chinese stole the server code, the code to run servers, which was used to run private servers! that has NOTHING to do with how the game looks or even plays! its completely off-topic!

Seriously are you just stupid?  Do you even qualify this as a response?  When I said they stole Lineage 2's server code, that means the WHOLE damn game, get it?  I don't know if you have ever written a piece of code in your life but if you had a clue you'd shove a boot into your mouth before you sound even more stupid by saying something like this.  You steal server code, that means the server version of Lineage 2, which is the whole damn game but the server version....get it?

Not really, the server sends information to the client, as in, the power of items,status of characters, and handles connection of players things like that. it doesn't host things like "Graphics" or "Textures", which are the only thing that could possible be stolen. those are stored client side.

Maybe you should actually read what I've posted?

We are talking about this game in relation to specific games that have been listed in this topic's title.  One of which is SPECIFICALLY Lineage 2.  If you deny that you can't see how exactly similar the two games are in look and feel than maybe its time you go for an eye exam.

Newsflash: Just because graphics look the same does not mean the game is a clone. that is absolutely rediculous.

Newsflash:  You are aware of copyright laws aren't you?  I guess if I cloned you and programmed you to talk and act differently you wouldn't mind?  Please don't make stupid assumptions like this.  I know your smarter.

You do know that a graphic style can not be copyrighted, right? Perfect World didn't copy any of the textures,animations, or anything else for that matter. It merely uses the same graphic style as Lineage 2, and possible the same Unreal engine. i

lol and how the hell do you know that?  Because they said so?  Using my eyes alone i can see that its a clone of Lineage 2 with the same art style.  Hell most of those character models looks like they copied Lineage 2 models and modified a face style or whatever.  I didn't say they copyright art style.  I said they copyright the art and the use of it and sure looks like they are reusing existing art and textures that already existed in Lineage 2 before this game even was conceived.

Actually, as I said countless of times, they did not stole anything, they merely used the same kind of style. None of the textures are "Stolen". It would be funny to see you in court.

"Omg mr judge, they completely stole everything from us!"
"So what is your evidence?"
"Well, I looked at youtube and screenshots and stuff and it almost looks the same!"
"Yes yes, but what is your technical evidence for this?"
"....."

Also, it is a huge concern of mine that China has continually brushed off international copyright laws and acts like they couldn't care less of other people's intellectual rights.  Why do you think foreign companies are now doing a double take on going into China at all?  It is STILL a communist state.  Don't forget that.

again, total off-topic and unrelated to the game.

It is a part of the topic because this IS a chinese game.  Why don't you start living in the real world?

except for the fact that no copyright violations have been made, so its completely off-topic.

Again, here you go with your assumption.  How the hell do you know?  Just because it wasn't made in CHINA who doesnt care a shit for copyright in general?  You must be kidding me.  Are you serious?

Eh, your ENTIRE POINT IS ASSUMPTION sherlock. "Some things look the same, they must have stolen it from NCSOFT!"

Shouldn't you throw out a few more insults?

Rha-El, thats absolut crazy what you say.. I would put my head on the table that this game has nothing to do with the chinese theft... you dont even need to be a programmer to see that the PW engine itselve couldnt use ANY kind of l2 sources... and gameload is right... the theft was a problem because of running illegal l2 servers... also you cant port some code from an unreal engine or even another game simply into another game (I am programmer myselve...). Thats just plain stupid and its TOTALLY sad that you destroyed just a nice and informative thread with those assumption even so I just told you that I can assure you it has nothing to do with it... (just play it for 5 min and then tell me again that the engine or ANY model or ANY texture is the same...), but I guess it doesnt matter what I explain to you... you don't belive me anyway, as I see... but well then just live with your assumption and good luck...

Kind regards,
LD

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Rha-EL

First of all if you ever played Lineage 2 you'd know right off that the models in this game looks like a direct rip from Lineage 2 + the terrain looks almost identical.

Not to mention it was the chinese who hacked into NCSOFT Korea's server and stole some of the original server for Lineage 2, thus all the Private Server Lineage 2 out there in the world today.

Anyone who's ever played Lineage 2 can see that this is a clone of Lineage 2.  Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if NCSOFT went after these guys for copyright infringement..but hey in China copyright means squat.  After all they seem to steal/copy most of their stuff anyway and try to repackage it.

Sorry to sound harsh but it is what it is.

Its amazing how you can already declare something a clone you never even PLAYED yet.  also, what does it matters it were chinese who hacked the ncsoft server? Nice attempt to bring the topic off-topic.

Off topic?  Aren't  you the one resorting to flaming here in this post?  How is it off-topic when it IS a fact that the Chinese DID hack into NCSOFT Korea servers and stole the base code for Lineage 2?  How is it also off-topic when after seeing the you-tube videos that are posted in this thread, the uncanny resemblance to terrain and character models are virtual clones of those that currently exist in Lineage 2?  Are YOU blind?

eh, maybe because this topic is about Perfect World and is not in any way related to source code stolen from NCsoft? Also go look up what the word flaming actually means. Also, the chinese stole the server code, which is used to create the server information.

oh really?  Then why is Lineage 2 mentioned in the post's title?  I guess you just happened not to read that part of it yes?  How quaint.  This topic is about Perfect World in COMPARISON to other games.  In that spirit, I can qualify the fact that the chinese did indeed steal Lineage 2's base code and could have possibly incorporated that into this game, since it resembles and looks like a damn clone.  Again are you blind?

The base code? The chinese stole the server code, the code to run servers, which was used to run private servers! that has NOTHING to do with how the game looks or even plays! its completely off-topic!

Seriously are you just stupid?  Do you even qualify this as a response?  When I said they stole Lineage 2's server code, that means the WHOLE damn game, get it?  I don't know if you have ever written a piece of code in your life but if you had a clue you'd shove a boot into your mouth before you sound even more stupid by saying something like this.  You steal server code, that means the server version of Lineage 2, which is the whole damn game but the server version....get it?

Not really, the server sends information to the client, as in, the power of items,status of characters, and handles connection of players things like that. it doesn't host things like "Graphics" or "Textures", which are the only thing that could possible be stolen. those are stored client side.

And why do you think the client can even "talk" to the server?  Let me educate you on client-server programming.  The server is a beefed up version of the client.  The server has ALL the code that the client has, and then some.  Get it now?

Maybe you should actually read what I've posted?

We are talking about this game in relation to specific games that have been listed in this topic's title.  One of which is SPECIFICALLY Lineage 2.  If you deny that you can't see how exactly similar the two games are in look and feel than maybe its time you go for an eye exam.

Newsflash: Just because graphics look the same does not mean the game is a clone. that is absolutely rediculous.

Newsflash:  You are aware of copyright laws aren't you?  I guess if I cloned you and programmed you to talk and act differently you wouldn't mind?  Please don't make stupid assumptions like this.  I know your smarter.

You do know that a graphic style can not be copyrighted, right? Perfect World didn't copy any of the textures,animations, or anything else for that matter. It merely uses the same graphic style as Lineage 2, and possible the same Unreal engine. i

lol and how the hell do you know that?  Because they said so?  Using my eyes alone i can see that its a clone of Lineage 2 with the same art style.  Hell most of those character models looks like they copied Lineage 2 models and modified a face style or whatever.  I didn't say they copyright art style.  I said they copyright the art and the use of it and sure looks like they are reusing existing art and textures that already existed in Lineage 2 before this game even was conceived.

Actually, as I said countless of times, they did not stole anything, they merely used the same kind of style. None of the textures are "Stolen".

lol are you part of the programming staff over at Perfect World?  You sure talk with an absolute amount of certainty for something you have absolutely no clue over.  At least *I* have a basis for why I say what I have.  Just watching the gameplay movies, I can see that the models ARE virtual clones of Lineage 2 models.  Where do you base *your* assumptions from?

Also, it is a huge concern of mine that China has continually brushed off international copyright laws and acts like they couldn't care less of other people's intellectual rights.  Why do you think foreign companies are now doing a double take on going into China at all?  It is STILL a communist state.  Don't forget that.

again, total off-topic and unrelated to the game.

It is a part of the topic because this IS a chinese game.  Why don't you start living in the real world?

except for the fact that no copyright violations have been made, so its completely off-topic.

Again, here you go with your assumption.  How the hell do you know?  Just because it wasn't made in CHINA who doesnt care a shit for copyright in general?  You must be kidding me.  Are you serious?

Eh, your ENTIRE POINT IS ASSUMPTION sherlock.

Sherlock?  How unoriginal.  Did you get that from a recent book you just read and thought it was a smart quip?  If my entire point as been assumption "sherlock" exactly what is *YOUR* point then?  Think that over.

Originally posted by Raiku

I have to say, Lineage 2 is probably Eye Candy of the MMO. They probably set the bar for graphics.

WoW set the Bar for Content and PvE capabilities.

Wtf is FFXI? I never touch it, never play it. So why combine that?

GuildWars set the motion for True PvP Competition.

This game seems overrated.

I never said its the ultimate in MMORPG, I just said that this game has a absolut nice setting,. some new innovative ideas, feels much like WoW (from the playstyle, instances and the game details and their completness, etc.) with a portion of L2/FFXI (graphical and feature wise -> pvp, housing...). And as I have already played the chinese version and talked to some chinese people all I can say is that I eagerly await it... how well it will be after the translation and "westernizing" is to be seen :)

Kind regards,
LD

Originally posted by LordDevil

Rha-El, thats absolut crazy what you say.. I would put my head on the table that this game has nothing to do with the chinese theft... you dont even need to be a programmer to see that the PW engine itselve couldnt use ANY kind of l2 sources... and gameload is right... the theft was a problem because of running illegal l2 servers... also you cant port some code from an unreal engine or even another game simply into another game (I am programmer myselve...). Thats just plain stupid and its TOTALLY sad that you destroyed just a nice and informative thread with those assumption even so I just told you that I can assure you it has nothing to do with it... (just play it for 5 min and then tell me again that the engine or ANY model or ANY texture is the same...), but I guess it doesnt matter what I explain to you... you don't belive me anyway, as I see... but well then just live with your assumption and good luck...

Kind regards,
LD

lol thats ridiculous, I never said they ported Lineage 2 code into anything.  I said Perfect World's base code IS the Lineage 2 base code.  get it?  That means its a direct rip off.  I hope I got that clear to you.

cheers!

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Originally posted by Rha-EL

First of all if you ever played Lineage 2 you'd know right off that the models in this game looks like a direct rip from Lineage 2 + the terrain looks almost identical.

Not to mention it was the chinese who hacked into NCSOFT Korea's server and stole some of the original server for Lineage 2, thus all the Private Server Lineage 2 out there in the world today.

Anyone who's ever played Lineage 2 can see that this is a clone of Lineage 2.  Hell I wouldn't even be surprised if NCSOFT went after these guys for copyright infringement..but hey in China copyright means squat.  After all they seem to steal/copy most of their stuff anyway and try to repackage it.

Sorry to sound harsh but it is what it is.

Its amazing how you can already declare something a clone you never even PLAYED yet.  also, what does it matters it were chinese who hacked the ncsoft server? Nice attempt to bring the topic off-topic.

Off topic?  Aren't  you the one resorting to flaming here in this post?  How is it off-topic when it IS a fact that the Chinese DID hack into NCSOFT Korea servers and stole the base code for Lineage 2?  How is it also off-topic when after seeing the you-tube videos that are posted in this thread, the uncanny resemblance to terrain and character models are virtual clones of those that currently exist in Lineage 2?  Are YOU blind?

eh, maybe because this topic is about Perfect World and is not in any way related to source code stolen from NCsoft? Also go look up what the word flaming actually means. Also, the chinese stole the server code, which is used to create the server information.

oh really?  Then why is Lineage 2 mentioned in the post's title?  I guess you just happened not to read that part of it yes?  How quaint.  This topic is about Perfect World in COMPARISON to other games.  In that spirit, I can qualify the fact that the chinese did indeed steal Lineage 2's base code and could have possibly incorporated that into this game, since it resembles and looks like a damn clone.  Again are you blind?

The base code? The chinese stole the server code, the code to run servers, which was used to run private servers! that has NOTHING to do with how the game looks or even plays! its completely off-topic!

Seriously are you just stupid?  Do you even qualify this as a response?  When I said they stole Lineage 2's server code, that means the WHOLE damn game, get it?  I don't know if you have ever written a piece of code in your life but if you had a clue you'd shove a boot into your mouth before you sound even more stupid by saying something like this.  You steal server code, that means the server version of Lineage 2, which is the whole damn game but the server version....get it?

Not really, the server sends information to the client, as in, the power of items,status of characters, and handles connection of players things like that. it doesn't host things like "Graphics" or "Textures", which are the only thing that could possible be stolen. those are stored client side.

And why do you think the client can even "talk" to the server?  Let me educate you on client-server programming.  The server is a beefed up version of the client.  The server has ALL the code that the client has, and then some.  Get it now?

No it doesn't. In the past, I used to host (and play) Ragnarok Online pirate servers, and the software used to run the server didn't cointain any client code. It merely contained the information required to handle the clients.

Maybe you should actually read what I've posted?

We are talking about this game in relation to specific games that have been listed in this topic's title.  One of which is SPECIFICALLY Lineage 2.  If you deny that you can't see how exactly similar the two games are in look and feel than maybe its time you go for an eye exam.

Newsflash: Just because graphics look the same does not mean the game is a clone. that is absolutely rediculous.

Newsflash:  You are aware of copyright laws aren't you?  I guess if I cloned you and programmed you to talk and act differently you wouldn't mind?  Please don't make stupid assumptions like this.  I know your smarter.

You do know that a graphic style can not be copyrighted, right? Perfect World didn't copy any of the textures,animations, or anything else for that matter. It merely uses the same graphic style as Lineage 2, and possible the same Unreal engine. i

lol and how the hell do you know that?  Because they said so?  Using my eyes alone i can see that its a clone of Lineage 2 with the same art style.  Hell most of those character models looks like they copied Lineage 2 models and modified a face style or whatever.  I didn't say they copyright art style.  I said they copyright the art and the use of it and sure looks like they are reusing existing art and textures that already existed in Lineage 2 before this game even was conceived.

Actually, as I said countless of times, they did not stole anything, they merely used the same kind of style. None of the textures are "Stolen".

lol are you part of the programming staff over at Perfect World?  You sure talk with an absolute amount of certainty for something you have absolutely no clue over.  At least *I* have a basis for why I say what I have.  Just watching the gameplay movies, I can see that the models ARE virtual clones of Lineage 2 models.  Where do you base *your* assumptions from?

wow, now THAT is a truly reliable source, you have no technical data, you can't even say for sure if the game runs on the same engine, but you looked at youtube videos and screenshots, absolutely hilarious.

Also, it is a huge concern of mine that China has continually brushed off international copyright laws and acts like they couldn't care less of other people's intellectual rights.  Why do you think foreign companies are now doing a double take on going into China at all?  It is STILL a communist state.  Don't forget that.

again, total off-topic and unrelated to the game.

It is a part of the topic because this IS a chinese game.  Why don't you start living in the real world?

except for the fact that no copyright violations have been made, so its completely off-topic.

Again, here you go with your assumption.  How the hell do you know?  Just because it wasn't made in CHINA who doesnt care a shit for copyright in general?  You must be kidding me.  Are you serious?

Eh, your ENTIRE POINT IS ASSUMPTION sherlock.

Sherlock?  How unoriginal.  Did you get that from a recent book you just read and thought it was a smart quip?  If my entire point as been assumption "sherlock" exactly what is *YOUR* point then?  Think that over.

My point has been to prove out you have no evidence whatsoever, and that it is pointless speculation. if PerfectWorld truly had stolen software from NCsoft, they would have been sued already, especialy after the huge success of perfect world. weird eh? Perfect World is not the only one that looks familiar to Lineage 2, there are many other MMO's that look like L2, and none of them stole anything from NCsoft. If you want to convince other Perfect World indeed stole software from NCsoft, then you better bring some damn good evidence, and saying "I looked at the screenshots and they almost look the same!" is not going to cut it.