I think Semp, just likes the game. And he is right to, it is a great game.  Just lacking in many areas that need fixed.  IMO mainly the economy, and crafting times.

 Who wants to throw money down a dark hole , and hope you get a return for it?  Rich folks can, but average players will not.

IMO, that and not graphics and bugs is what made people move on or quit this game.  I mean the combat is fun the crafting is in depth but everything takes too long and cost too much to be enjoyable.

Skill gains should be looked at again too. (supposed to be grind free...)

Anyways I am not bashing this game because it is a good game, (potentialy) I just hope they start looking at the facts layed out in front of them, and address them. (SOON)

Originally posted by papacapjack

Now I have played Roma-Victor since beta, and I will tell you nothing but the truth here, while there are many things and reasons I play the game there are many reasons it appears to be on a total downfall and why I would Not recomend it.

lets begin with the basics, PVP- battles of 7vs7 are damn near impossable due to lag, you have to march men across one at a time when changing boards to a new area, or you will certianly get disconnected, so generally Moving armys beyond 10 and trying to attack with a simillar number beyond 4 will lag badly no matter where you are.

the Grind, RV has one of the most boring grinds in the world, currently the new technique is stabbing a fork, you have to repeat this action with a non responding player about a million times untill your sword or spear needs repairing then come back and do it again, by the end of just one weapon mastery you feel like a monkey trained to do only one remedial task, and with the sparse and small population finding a partner becomes a chore.

AS, Actual Stupidty, now perhaps that is a litte harsh I mean the AI will kill you like a laser guided missle, but not only is this AI ushally powerfull (the lower end ai will require a mastery and about 30 out of 99 dodge) but they will often Warp to your position, use no vigour (which is basicly attack points so while you can get 12 swings or a time of running they have no such restrictions) they pass straight through walls you cant they have absolutely No pathfinding and ive even heard of them attacking after death, and unless you kill a animal you get no loot.

Factional inbalance, Romans simply have it all, they are protected from each other, can craft alot of their factional clothing unlike barbs, are packed into the arena as that is the only place you can train, they have controll of the iron mine ( you cant conquer btw) with two aux gaurds so the barb minners have to work on the fighters schedule.

Population, sometimes this really does leave me thinking is this a MMO? unable to handle any large scale combat, and the roman town will average 7-20 people lately, the barb starting village will average 0-4 people online, and the other village also will have around 0-5 people, the towns feel ghostly and are literally hours apart with boards inbetween, and Barbs being sparse and low in numbers doesnt help matters.

Elysium, you may have read the interveiw , well there is no mythical creatures you run up a hill talk to a guy and spawn at your hometown, thats about it.

Content, there have been some nice new additions to the game ill give them that like the new shields, but after all this time players still cant craft any of the stone buildings, lorica segmentas and many other stuff, in fact 90% of the population I would say runs around in their loincloths  hows that for immersion.

Working your way to the top, this is becoming increasingly difficult even if you are in a guild, very few will get far without contributing, and it isnt cheap to max profitable skills, you will go through many weapons and tools repeating the same remedial tasks to gain skill points, and even if you do manage to work your way up, there will always be that richie rich that has bought everything and controlls the market, we call him augir, he has about 4 alts, has bought all the NPCs merchants to sell things for him (theres a cap cant buy no more) and he owns about 50 houses, why? because he put aload into the verm and RB had no cap, I belive its what you call buying yourself a crown

Crashes! Crashes! and CRASHES!, Crashes will follow you everywhere in RV you will leave elysium and Rv.exe!, in the middle of combat and Rv.exe!, pretty much standing round not doing a thing you get a RV.exe, and well its been like this since beta so all the error reports in the world I doubt are gonna help now.

Devs dont deliver, they have promised so much from storylines to elysium puzzles, yet they fail to deliver on the most basic of things, they will say somethings in and it isnt, like the first patch we have listed says Pugios are now ingame, there are No pugios able to be crafted still.

 

Originally posted by papacapjack

Now I have played Roma-Victor since beta, and I will tell you nothing but the truth here, while there are many things and reasons I play the game there are many reasons it appears to be on a total downfall and why I would Not recomend it.

lets begin with the basics, PVP- battles of 7vs7 are damn near impossable due to lag, you have to march men across one at a time when changing boards to a new area, or you will certianly get disconnected, so generally Moving armys beyond 10 and trying to attack with a simillar number beyond 4 will lag badly no matter where you are.

There have been plenty of battles that were fought lagless.http://www.roma-victor.com/community/bb/viewtopic.php?p=237182#237182

the Grind, RV has one of the most boring grinds in the world, currently the new technique is stabbing a fork, you have to repeat this action with a non responding player about a million times untill your sword or spear needs repairing then come back and do it again, by the end of just one weapon mastery you feel like a monkey trained to do only one remedial task, and with the sparse and small population finding a partner becomes a chore.

You are not forced to grind all the stuff up, it's not our fault you want to be a l33T guy, although a 17s/sm/d/b/p guy may not kill much, you are not useless, unlike most of other games where you can't even play with your friends because you are 6 lvls lower...

AS, Actual Stupidty, now perhaps that is a litte harsh I mean the AI will kill you like a laser guided missle, but not only is this AI ushally powerfull (the lower end ai will require a mastery and about 30 out of 99 dodge) but they will often Warp to your position, use no vigour (which is basicly attack points so while you can get 12 swings or a time of running they have no such restrictions) they pass straight through walls you cant they have absolutely No pathfinding and ive even heard of them attacking after death, and unless you kill a animal you get no loot.

True

Factional inbalance, Romans simply have it all, they are protected from each other, can craft alot of their factional clothing unlike barbs, are packed into the arena as that is the only place you can train, they have controll of the iron mine ( you cant conquer btw) with two aux gaurds so the barb minners have to work on the fighters schedule.

There have been many debates over faction imbalance and the only real disadvantage barbarians have is their low pop. All the other points can be countered with disadvantages of the Roman Sides.

Population, sometimes this really does leave me thinking is this a MMO? unable to handle any large scale combat, and the roman town will average 7-20 people lately, the barb starting village will average 0-4 people online, and the other village also will have around 0-5 people, the towns feel ghostly and are literally hours apart with boards inbetween, and Barbs being sparse and low in numbers doesnt help matters.

I'm sorry, no teleport or cars in the Roman age. Oh, and it never takes me more than an hour to get anywhere.

Elysium, you may have read the interveiw , well there is no mythical creatures you run up a hill talk to a guy and spawn at your hometown, thats about it.

Absolutely true.

Content, there have been some nice new additions to the game ill give them that like the new shields, but after all this time players still cant craft any of the stone buildings, lorica segmentas and many other stuff, in fact 90% of the population I would say runs around in their loincloths  hows that for immersion.

Platemail is craftable, chainmail is craftable, several swordtypes including falxes and falcatas are craftable, handaxes are craftable. Daggers are craftable. Stone buildings aren't craftable; and that sucks.

Working your way to the top, this is becoming increasingly difficult even if you are in a guild, very few will get far without contributing, and it isnt cheap to max profitable skills, you will go through many weapons and tools repeating the same remedial tasks to gain skill points, and even if you do manage to work your way up, there will always be that richie rich that has bought everything and controlls the market, we call him augir, he has about 4 alts, has bought all the NPCs merchants to sell things for him (theres a cap cant buy no more) and he owns about 50 houses, why? because he put aload into the verm and RB had no cap, I belive its what you call buying yourself a crown

That is highly incorrect. Most people that are in a guild haven't spent a penny yet. >And Augir isn't that mighty, yes he has a lot of alts, so what? He can't play 12 character in the same time. Yes he has built like 20 roundhouses, so what? Yes he has a lot of indoor projects now, so yes, he can outproduce everyone else, but it's not as if it makes your actions insignificant. You don't need to be a master of xxx to be useful. Again.

Crashes! Crashes! and CRASHES!, Crashes will follow you everywhere in RV you will leave elysium and Rv.exe!, in the middle of combat and Rv.exe!, pretty much standing round not doing a thing you get a RV.exe, and well its been like this since beta so all the error reports in the world I doubt are gonna help now.

When have you last played? Have you updated your drivers as they have said 20x? Have you sent in Error Reports. I haven't crashed in weeks. They fixed the elysium crash.

Devs dont deliver, they have promised so much from storylines to elysium puzzles, yet they fail to deliver on the most basic of things, they will say somethings in and it isnt, like the first patch we have listed says Pugios are now ingame, there are No pugios able to be crafted still.

Pugios are craftable. They didn't say Pugios were in then. I don't know or you have a problem with reading, but they said 'hope to get that in, in patch 1.3.6 they would release soon'. The actual patch notes did not say Pugios were in.


Final points: I don't particulary like this game, all the clicking hurts my fingers so I hardly play it anymore. But there are hardly any games that can even match the fun I had in this one. My tips for those who want to try it out:
- Join a guild
- Read the fora
- Update your drivers
- Bookmark the wiki
- Read the beginners guide in it
- Have fun!

  I will lay it straight.  

 Sadly, even in it's poor state, this game is better than any MMO currently out.  Sad for all the other MMOS that are out and just crappy copies of WoW with fresh coat of paint.

  This game has taken a huge leap forward, far as combat and community driven content. 

 But the lack of balancing for average players has slapped them in the face, and will continue to do so untill the make the nessairy changes.  If they dont make the changes pretty soon it will be too late and the games reputation wil be completely ruined, leaving no chance for the community to bounce back.

  I stil have hope for RB to turn RV arround, may not seem that way from my posts , but I am simply stating the facts from mine and other players experiance in the game, so that they can see where they need to put their efforts.  Reguardless of wether of not they care or listen I am gratefull for the game they have put out, as it may very likley effect future games comeing out, providing me and others with a game we can enjoy down the road.

whats the population like nowadays?

any better?

Originally posted by hercules

whats the population like nowadays?

any better?

 

  Not as of 3 weeks ago.  Havent logged in in a while dont want any reason to waste the ses that I have currently untill prices are reasonable.

 I did see a few new faces tho, probably the new grass and the new weapons and armor they added, but that wont keep folks for long. We need substantial changes not cosmetic, to turn this arround.

 I am still rooting for them. believe it or not.

Originally posted by shane910

  I will lay it straight.  

 

 Sadly, even in it's poor state, this game is better than any MMO currently out.  Sad for all the other MMOS that are out and just crappy copies of WoW with fresh coat of paint.

 

  This game has taken a huge leap forward, far as combat and community driven content. 

 

 But the lack of balancing for average players has slapped them in the face, and will continue to do so untill the make the nessairy changes.  If they dont make the changes pretty soon it will be too late and the games reputation wil be completely ruined, leaving no chance for the community to bounce back.

 

  I stil have hope for RB to turn RV arround, may not seem that way from my posts , but I am simply stating the facts from mine and other players experiance in the game, so that they can see where they need to put their efforts.  Reguardless of wether of not they care or listen I am gratefull for the game they have put out, as it may very likley effect future games comeing out, providing me and others with a game we can enjoy down the road.

Originally posted by grinreaper

Originally posted by shane910

  I will lay it straight.  

 

 Sadly, even in it's poor state, this game is better than any MMO currently out.  Sad for all the other MMOS that are out and just crappy copies of WoW with fresh coat of paint.

 

  This game has taken a huge leap forward, far as combat and community driven content. 

 

 But the lack of balancing for average players has slapped them in the face, and will continue to do so untill the make the nessairy changes.  If they dont make the changes pretty soon it will be too late and the games reputation wil be completely ruined, leaving no chance for the community to bounce back.

 

  I stil have hope for RB to turn RV arround, may not seem that way from my posts , but I am simply stating the facts from mine and other players experiance in the game, so that they can see where they need to put their efforts.  Reguardless of wether of not they care or listen I am gratefull for the game they have put out, as it may very likley effect future games comeing out, providing me and others with a game we can enjoy down the road.

Well said shane...only point I dont agree on is that there is really no 'point of no return' for a MMOs rep...look at AO for gods sake, or WW2OL

This may sound silly, but the fact that there are people that care enough about the game to still post about makes me hopeful.

I don't know why, but I find the concept of the game interesting. Yes, even the main forums at http://www.roma-victor.com/ aren't too active but they're still worth checking out.

Of course I still haven't taken the leap and bought the game so what do I know.....