The OP's comments are appropriate for his tastes.

Yes, the combat is like other traditional MMOGs.  So it's similar to WoW, EQ2, EQ1, DAoC, and many other successful titles.  The OP prefers a different style, something very active.  Personally I think a more standard system is appropriate for LOTRO.

The graphics are spectacular.  They are not a translation of the movies, and they're not intended to be.  Ditto sounds.  I like them, I *do* think they're in line with Middle-Earth, but Howard Shore wasn't involved.  This is not Lord of the Rings - The Movies - Online.  If you were hoping for shield-surfing elves and comic-relief dwarves, you may be disappointed. 

Originally posted by Mars505
Sorry gameloading but so does a lot mmo's.  G.E. Has instances as well but yet you fail to mention that.
And What is the huge difference between what your doing and anyone else, not a damn thing , you are pushing your G.E. just like the rest of the trolls. 

My personal Opnion , I like instances , It creates smooth game play , as well as making areas become your own level to do your quest without outside interference from gankers. But it is obvious you love gankers , when your at the last part o your quest and get killed by the leet pwnzor. 

Look at the difference in object models , shaders , and art direction. LotRO is a real game and it just makes you annoyed that G.E will get burried under its wake.

Originally posted by CleffyII

Basing a games style on how they interpret it from the book is just lazyness if you ask me.  The majority of thier potential player base isn't going to be the people who have read the entire middle-earth chronicle.  Its gonna be people who loved the movie.  When they get in the game and play it won't feel like Lord of the Rings mainly due to the color scheme.  In the movie scenes were softer and blends well together, however in the game they went with what everyone last gen chooses as a color scheme Split-Complimentary which creates a harsh contrast.

 

Sorry to ruin your best, but thoroughly inaccurate, arguement.  It has nothing to do with laziness. Turbine does not have the license to copy the movies. Period. End of story. In fact, they have to purposefully steer away from movie iconography. In alpha, they had a hill jokingly named after Orlando Bloom (though disguised as Sindarin Elvish). They've since taken that out.

You think the style is bland.  Take a look at the Hildebrandt brothers interpretation of Middle Earth, and I think you'll see where Turbine artists got a lot of their inspiration.  Peter Jackson used Allen Lee, and Turbine (my unofficial opinion) used Hildebrandt.  Rich, saturated colors. A bit more hyper-real or surreal than Allen Lee's minimalistic realist approach.

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Mars505
Sorry gameloading but so does a lot mmo's.  G.E. Has instances as well but yet you fail to mention that.
And What is the huge difference between what your doing and anyone else, not a damn thing , you are pushing your G.E. just like the rest of the trolls. 

My personal Opnion , I like instances , It creates smooth game play , as well as making areas become your own level to do your quest without outside interference from gankers. But it is obvious you love gankers , when your at the last part o your quest and get killed by the leet pwnzor. 

Look at the difference in object models , shaders , and art direction. LotRO is a real game and it just makes you annoyed that G.E will get burried under its wake.

Why do you even attack a game that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject? I didn't mention G.E because GE is a complete diffrent game that has just about as much in common with LOTRO as potatoes with cars. Lord of the rings online can be compared to WoW because they are simply very much alike.

Where did I push G.E in this thread? Did you even READ my post?

But fine, I'll take your bait. Granado Espada is already more successfull then Lord of the rings online will ever be, simple as that. To "attack" a game like GE, you will have to hit the asian market, because that is the most important market. The NA/EU markets are small fry. and unfortunatly for you, Nobody in asia gives a damn about the Lord of the rings. in fact, Turbine won't even release the game in asia, knowing it will bomb there.

Just to give you a small example. Granado Espada had 100k beta sign ups in Japan.......



in just 7 hours.

GL, your ability to turn any topic into Asian vs Western is truely frightening.

I like them both.

(OMG, there must be something wrong with my brain!!!!! I enjoyed WoW, I played and Loved Lineage2, LotRs is awsome, I've been playing it for 4 months, DAoC was the bomb back in the day, AC was my first love in MMOs, Grando Espada is really fun to play, I'm looking forward to Conan AND Aion.........or could it be that I judge and rate games on their own individual merit? I have superior and diverse gameskillz, I guess lol call me 1337 because I can do P&C AND WASD, I'm da man!!!!)

PH34R MY 31337 SK177Z

Originally posted by Cerion

Originally posted by CleffyII

Basing a games style on how they interpret it from the book is just lazyness if you ask me.  The majority of thier potential player base isn't going to be the people who have read the entire middle-earth chronicle.  Its gonna be people who loved the movie.  When they get in the game and play it won't feel like Lord of the Rings mainly due to the color scheme.  In the movie scenes were softer and blends well together, however in the game they went with what everyone last gen chooses as a color scheme Split-Complimentary which creates a harsh contrast.

 

Sorry to ruin your best, but thoroughly inaccurate, arguement.  It has nothing to do with laziness. Turbine does not have the license to copy the movies. Period. End of story. In fact, they have to purposefully steer away from movie iconography. In alpha, they had a hill jokingly named after Orlando Bloom (though disguised as Sindarin Elvish). They've since taken that out.

You think the style is bland.  Take a look at the Hildebrandt brothers interpretation of Middle Earth, and I think you'll see where Turbine artists got a lot of their inspiration.  Peter Jackson used Allen Lee, and Turbine (my unofficial opinion) used Hildebrandt.  Rich, saturated colors. A bit more hyper-real or surreal than Allen Lee's minimalistic realist approach.

QFT

Pointless review, I doubt the OP made it past level ten, doubt they participated in the PvP, there was not much to be said about it was there? Not much to be said about the game really except that it is apparently a "dubbed down WoW clone", is that what I read? Nice try Cleffy, enjoy GE while it lasts, great game tbh but just doesn't hold my interest for more than 30 minutes. Tell me I am not playing it properly, I will just laugh out loud.

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Originally posted by christwarior
this review is bull! LotRO is NOT a dubbed down WoW clone! it has monster play, a much better story, and the instanced quests r very well played out. and plus, WoW is an EQ clone so stfu about WoW clone WoW clone WoW clone WoW clone well guess what WOW IS AN EVERQUEST CLONE GET THE F^&% OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh and GE sucks just like all the other crappy korean MMOs out there

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So you defend the game you play and bash another? Very prespective, that just earned you no points and no one will take you seriously, because to everyone else you just titled yourself a fanboi for LoTRO. Everyone is going to refer to WoW for one reason, it is the most successful MMORPG to this date with out 8million subscribers, it doesn't matter how long you played MMORPGs and what you know about the golden days of MMORPGing. It will always be refrence to WoW because of it's success. With that said, this is the exact impression I had when I played CB, it felt, looked and controled just like WoW.

But, I gave it a chance and kept playing, moving on to the new lands and change of landscapes. In the end it wasn't what I was hoping for, it didn't feel at all like being shoved in a LoTR world. It felt like just walking around an undiscovered, unnamed, bland fantasy world and it was just that. The combat was biggest let down in the game, slow amd repeative, I had a sequence where all I had to do was push the 3 sames buttons ever battle and boom the mob was dead, new skills didn't seem new at all, just rehashed versions of the old ones with bigger output damage. The quests, ugly, kill x mobs, or bring this thing to x at x town. This was LoTR one of biggest fantasy settings in the world of lands unexplored and long adventures, yet I was killing x of something in a cave or grove or field. I never felt like I had a part in the world or what I'd ever do in game mattered. With the age of technology this game takes a breather on interactivity, sure the graphics but that doesn't make up for the dull gameplay and lack of evolving world.

Oh yes and before I forgot, "warrior" is spelled with two r's.

Originally posted by Cerion

Originally posted by CleffyII

Basing a games style on how they interpret it from the book is just lazyness if you ask me.  The majority of thier potential player base isn't going to be the people who have read the entire middle-earth chronicle.  Its gonna be people who loved the movie.  When they get in the game and play it won't feel like Lord of the Rings mainly due to the color scheme.  In the movie scenes were softer and blends well together, however in the game they went with what everyone last gen chooses as a color scheme Split-Complimentary which creates a harsh contrast.

 

Sorry to ruin your best, but thoroughly inaccurate, arguement.  It has nothing to do with laziness. Turbine does not have the license to copy the movies. Period. End of story. In fact, they have to purposefully steer away from movie iconography. In alpha, they had a hill jokingly named after Orlando Bloom (though disguised as Sindarin Elvish). They've since taken that out.

You think the style is bland.  Take a look at the Hildebrandt brothers interpretation of Middle Earth, and I think you'll see where Turbine artists got a lot of their inspiration.  Peter Jackson used Allen Lee, and Turbine (my unofficial opinion) used Hildebrandt.  Rich, saturated colors. A bit more hyper-real or surreal than Allen Lee's minimalistic realist approach.

Great response, there aren't that many people on these forums who go into detail about art direction.  I still think that the style could have been mimiced without treading water on the Movie copyrights.  There are still the base attributes of the style that are universal.  The analgous color scheme, and the way the light spreads across the surface.  I know that replicating Rivendall from LotR's movie would put them in serious shit, but no one will notice following the color scheme.

I still think my argument holds true.  People are expecting it, and any game made about Lord of the Rings since 2001 should feel like the movie since it is so universal and most of the people who would play come from movie fans.

Originally posted by CleffyII

I still think my argument holds true.  People are expecting it, and any game made about Lord of the Rings since 2001 should feel like the movie since it is so universal and most of the people who would play come from movie fans.

Most people think the game is pretty darn gorgeous just the way it is. That plus the fact it plays well on pretty much any computer sold off the shelf in the few years is all that 99.99999 % of the people who enjoy it care about.

The game is based on the books - end of story. To many fans the movies were a knife in the back. ( I liked the movies)

Again, game is in beta still and IMO is a fantastic game, graphics are great (Turbine is awesome in that area.) I guess WoW can be compared to almost any game as it copied from everybody and then put together a mix to feed the masses -and it worked (not for me, hate WoW) so people will compare LoTRO to WoW . As far as comparing to DDO - maybe graphic quality, but that is it. Fighting is totally different in each game, and DDO is all instanced, LoTRO is not, and has a large world to explore, cool crafting and farming etc..The OP 's title said it all "Flame bait"  -

Originally posted by quietwolf
After playing around with it in beta, LOTR just reminds me of a polished version of DDO.

QFT

Originally posted by Torak

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Mars505
Sorry gameloading but so does a lot mmo's.  G.E. Has instances as well but yet you fail to mention that.
And What is the huge difference between what your doing and anyone else, not a damn thing , you are pushing your G.E. just like the rest of the trolls. 

My personal Opnion , I like instances , It creates smooth game play , as well as making areas become your own level to do your quest without outside interference from gankers. But it is obvious you love gankers , when your at the last part o your quest and get killed by the leet pwnzor. 

Look at the difference in object models , shaders , and art direction. LotRO is a real game and it just makes you annoyed that G.E will get burried under its wake.

Why do you even attack a game that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject? I didn't mention G.E because GE is a complete diffrent game that has just about as much in common with LOTRO as potatoes with cars. Lord of the rings online can be compared to WoW because they are simply very much alike.

Where did I push G.E in this thread? Did you even READ my post?

But fine, I'll take your bait. Granado Espada is already more successfull then Lord of the rings online will ever be, simple as that. To "attack" a game like GE, you will have to hit the asian market, because that is the most important market. The NA/EU markets are small fry. and unfortunatly for you, Nobody in asia gives a damn about the Lord of the rings. in fact, Turbine won't even release the game in asia, knowing it will bomb there.

Just to give you a small example. Granado Espada had 100k beta sign ups in Japan.......



in just 7 hours.

 

GL, your ability to turn any topic into Asian vs Western is truely frightening.

I like them both.

(OMG, there must be something wrong with my brain!!!!! I enjoyed WoW, I played and Loved Lineage2, LotRs is awsome, I've been playing it for 4 months, DAoC was the bomb back in the day, AC was my first love in MMOs, Grando Espada is really fun to play, I'm looking forward to Conan AND Aion.........or could it be that I judge and rate games on their own individual merit? I have superior and diverse gameskillz, I guess lol call me 1337 because I can do P&C AND WASD, I'm da man!!!!)

PH34R MY 31337 SK177Z

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Torak

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Mars505
Sorry gameloading but so does a lot mmo's.  G.E. Has instances as well but yet you fail to mention that.
And What is the huge difference between what your doing and anyone else, not a damn thing , you are pushing your G.E. just like the rest of the trolls. 

My personal Opnion , I like instances , It creates smooth game play , as well as making areas become your own level to do your quest without outside interference from gankers. But it is obvious you love gankers , when your at the last part o your quest and get killed by the leet pwnzor. 

Look at the difference in object models , shaders , and art direction. LotRO is a real game and it just makes you annoyed that G.E will get burried under its wake.

Why do you even attack a game that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject? I didn't mention G.E because GE is a complete diffrent game that has just about as much in common with LOTRO as potatoes with cars. Lord of the rings online can be compared to WoW because they are simply very much alike.

Where did I push G.E in this thread? Did you even READ my post?

But fine, I'll take your bait. Granado Espada is already more successfull then Lord of the rings online will ever be, simple as that. To "attack" a game like GE, you will have to hit the asian market, because that is the most important market. The NA/EU markets are small fry. and unfortunatly for you, Nobody in asia gives a damn about the Lord of the rings. in fact, Turbine won't even release the game in asia, knowing it will bomb there.

Just to give you a small example. Granado Espada had 100k beta sign ups in Japan.......



in just 7 hours.

 

GL, your ability to turn any topic into Asian vs Western is truely frightening.

I like them both.

(OMG, there must be something wrong with my brain!!!!! I enjoyed WoW, I played and Loved Lineage2, LotRs is awsome, I've been playing it for 4 months, DAoC was the bomb back in the day, AC was my first love in MMOs, Grando Espada is really fun to play, I'm looking forward to Conan AND Aion.........or could it be that I judge and rate games on their own individual merit? I have superior and diverse gameskillz, I guess lol call me 1337 because I can do P&C AND WASD, I'm da man!!!!)

PH34R MY 31337 SK177Z

I didn't turn it into an asian vs western thread, I just completely fail to see why people are attacking G.E. in this thread.

Just yanking your chain bro  You gotta admit....it does seem to follow you...lol 

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Mars505
Sorry gameloading but so does a lot mmo's.  G.E. Has instances as well but yet you fail to mention that.
And What is the huge difference between what your doing and anyone else, not a damn thing , you are pushing your G.E. just like the rest of the trolls. 

My personal Opnion , I like instances , It creates smooth game play , as well as making areas become your own level to do your quest without outside interference from gankers. But it is obvious you love gankers , when your at the last part o your quest and get killed by the leet pwnzor. 

Look at the difference in object models , shaders , and art direction. LotRO is a real game and it just makes you annoyed that G.E will get burried under its wake.

Why do you even attack a game that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject? I didn't mention G.E because GE is a complete diffrent game that has just about as much in common with LOTRO as potatoes with cars. Lord of the rings online can be compared to WoW because they are simply very much alike.

Where did I push G.E in this thread? Did you even READ my post?

But fine, I'll take your bait. Granado Espada is already more successfull then Lord of the rings online will ever be, simple as that. To "attack" a game like GE, you will have to hit the asian market, because that is the most important market. The NA/EU markets are small fry. and unfortunatly for you, Nobody in asia gives a damn about the Lord of the rings. in fact, Turbine won't even release the game in asia, knowing it will bomb there.

Just to give you a small example. Granado Espada had 100k beta sign ups in Japan.......



in just 7 hours.

Originally posted by Mars505

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Mars505
Sorry gameloading but so does a lot mmo's.  G.E. Has instances as well but yet you fail to mention that.
And What is the huge difference between what your doing and anyone else, not a damn thing , you are pushing your G.E. just like the rest of the trolls. 

My personal Opnion , I like instances , It creates smooth game play , as well as making areas become your own level to do your quest without outside interference from gankers. But it is obvious you love gankers , when your at the last part o your quest and get killed by the leet pwnzor. 

Look at the difference in object models , shaders , and art direction. LotRO is a real game and it just makes you annoyed that G.E will get burried under its wake.

Why do you even attack a game that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject? I didn't mention G.E because GE is a complete diffrent game that has just about as much in common with LOTRO as potatoes with cars. Lord of the rings online can be compared to WoW because they are simply very much alike.

Where did I push G.E in this thread? Did you even READ my post?

But fine, I'll take your bait. Granado Espada is already more successfull then Lord of the rings online will ever be, simple as that. To "attack" a game like GE, you will have to hit the asian market, because that is the most important market. The NA/EU markets are small fry. and unfortunatly for you, Nobody in asia gives a damn about the Lord of the rings. in fact, Turbine won't even release the game in asia, knowing it will bomb there.

Just to give you a small example. Granado Espada had 100k beta sign ups in Japan.......



in just 7 hours.

G.E is a wow clone , it uses instances.

 I am not worried about how successful LotRo is , I'm worried about having fun inside a game., and i'm having more fun then any game i've played in the last 5 years.  You want to go back to the cultural indifferences between asian and western gamers ,again? I'm from America and really don't care what obsessive compulsive eastern gamers flavor of the month is ...

Originally posted by Mars505

Originally posted by Gameloading

G.E is a wow clone , it uses instances.

 I am not worried about how successful LotRo is , I'm worried about having fun inside a game., and i'm having more fun then any game i've played in the last 5 years.  You want to go back to the cultural indifferences between asian and western gamers ,again? I'm from America and really don't care what obsessive compulsive eastern gamers flavor of the month is ...

Originally posted by Mars505
I said that is because that is how I interrupted gameloafding intial comment , that any game that uses instancing is a wow clone . Sarcasm

Ah....

Lately, every forum you go on there is someone, no matter what game, hooting that its a WoW clone.

I am in the camp UO is a WoW clone now.

Battlefield 2 is also a WoW clone, there are battlefields and capture the flag. The Sims is also a WoW clone. I can't think of a reason why right now but it is damn it!

Originally posted by Torak

Originally posted by Mars505
I said that is because that is how I interrupted gameloafding intial comment , that any game that uses instancing is a wow clone . Sarcasm

Ah....

Lately, every forum you go on there is someone, no matter what game, hooting that its a WoW clone.

I am in the camp UO is a WoW clone now.

Battlefield 2 is also a WoW clone, there are battlefields and capture the flag. The Sims is also a WoW clone. I can't think of a reason why right now but it is damn it!

Originally posted by Torak

Originally posted by Mars505
I said that is because that is how I interrupted gameloafding intial comment , that any game that uses instancing is a wow clone . Sarcasm

Ah....

Lately, every forum you go on there is someone, no matter what game, hooting that its a WoW clone.

I am in the camp UO is a WoW clone now.

Battlefield 2 is also a WoW clone, there are battlefields and capture the flag. The Sims is also a WoW clone. I can't think of a reason why right now but it is damn it!