Originally posted by AssAssin_666
is it just me , or Do the chars in Lotro look really :/ out of proportion, Guys got the waist of a women with an eating disease .

Funny that is what I thought about Vanguard, lots of sliders on their character creators but most ly they just made the character look like a mutant.

 img267.imageshack.us/img267/2248/screenshot00059fz1.jpg

To me it just looks like these guys might spend way too much time working out, but their waists are in pretty good proportion to their hips.

BTW these are all level 1 or level 2 characters with the newbie class armor.

One of mine :) 1280*1024, everything maxed. And its what I play with. Nothing I have seen in a game can beat that view!

Originally posted by Ghostwise
I've played both games since early beta and while LOTRO is more polished and pretty decent. It isn't revolutionary. Vanguard is by far the prettiest mmorpg out and the deepest in terms of gameplay.


Vanguard screenshots.


In the middle of nowhere and it puts LOTRO to shame.


Another that just looks sick.


Yeah.....I can fly up to the top of that mountain in the background. :P

First of all those pics you posted are very, very unimpressive you could have done much better than that even though I happen to think VSoH graphics are lacking a direction and detail, the realistic model just looks the same in all games (ie EQ2)

Second of all if you are going to compare the two games please explain why LotRO is not revolutionary and VSoH is...I would absoulutely love to hear your answer....

Originally posted by AssAssin_666
is it just me , or Do the chars in Lotro look really :/ out of proportion, Guys got the waist of a women with an eating disease .

Originally posted by Ghostwise
I've played both games since early beta and while LOTRO is more polished and pretty decent. It isn't revolutionary. Vanguard is by far the prettiest mmorpg out and the deepest in terms of gameplay.


Vanguard screenshots.


In the middle of nowhere and it puts LOTRO to shame.


Another that just looks sick.


Yeah.....I can fly up to the top of that mountain in the background. :P

all taken by me

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/367391582_89056279b3_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/110/367392629_c2866b3aed_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/113/367390302_be6c16e327_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/367387081_dd0bb66041_o.png

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Originally posted by Phoenixs

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Originally posted by AssAssin_666
is it just me , or Do the chars in Lotro look really :/ out of proportion, Guys got the waist of a women with an eating disease .
Imo Vanguard has some weird proportions, LOTRO does far better in this department than Vanguard. There are some really ugly looking proportions. So far I have only found 3 races that look ok, out of all the races.

Examples of terrible looking races in Vanguard:

Kurashasa: The heads are just plain wrong. Looks quite good from the side, but from the front it is terrible.
Vulmane: Impossible to get the chest to look ok. This also applies to most races, sadly

Only ones I have found good so far are:

Orc
Goblin
Lesser Giant
The Elf's look quite good to, but they look terrible in caster gear, and their body proportions look weird no matter what you do with the sliders.

A example of how wrong it can go in Vanguard:

Originally posted by Ghostwise
I've played both games since early beta and while LOTRO is more polished and pretty decent. It isn't revolutionary. Vanguard is by far the prettiest mmorpg out and the deepest in terms of gameplay.

Vanguard screenshots.

In the middle of nowhere and it puts LOTRO to shame.

Another that just looks sick.

Yeah.....I can fly up to the top of that mountain in the background. :P

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Those two screenshots where beyond terrible If you wanna promote Vanguards graphics post some good screenshots next time.

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if you never played and do not know nothing about vanguard,
PLEASE DO NOT POST SHIT !
what you are taking are the paperdoll shots taken from a char in static position really low quality shot with a placeholder background and also scrinked char and image . . .

but now compare . . .

this from vg : http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/367391582_89056279b3_o.jpg
with this from lotr : http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2248/screenshot00059fz1.jpg

kk thanks see you my friend.

Those two screenshots where beyond terrible If you wanna promote Vanguards graphics post some good screenshots next time.

Originally posted by Mars505


This picture is realing a great one to see the emotionless  combat. Also start seeing a huge pattern in VSoH of everything is just bumpmaped in wide open terrian with little foliage , think that is why people considered it bland. Does VSoH have any jungles or Rain Forests ? I know that some classes start out in well wooded area but after you journey out , that seemed to sharply decrease....


Here is Everquest 2 screenshot, looks like better shaders and color palette in my opinion

Originally posted by Phoenixs

Originally posted by AssAssin_666
is it just me , or Do the chars in Lotro look really :/ out of proportion, Guys got the waist of a women with an eating disease .

Imo Vanguard has some weird proportions, LOTRO does far better in this department than Vanguard. There are some really ugly looking proportions. So far I have only found 3 races that look ok, out of all the races.

Examples of terrible looking races in Vanguard:

Kurashasa: The heads are just plain wrong. Looks quite good from the side, but from the front it is terrible.
Vulmane: Impossible to get the chest to look ok. This also applies to most races, sadly

Only ones I have found good so far are:

Orc
Goblin
Lesser Giant
The Elf's look quite good to, but they look terrible in caster gear, and their body proportions look weird no matter what you do with the sliders.

A example of how wrong it can go in Vanguard:

Originally posted by Ghostwise
I've played both games since early beta and while LOTRO is more polished and pretty decent. It isn't revolutionary. Vanguard is by far the prettiest mmorpg out and the deepest in terms of gameplay.


Vanguard screenshots.


In the middle of nowhere and it puts LOTRO to shame.


Another that just looks sick.


Yeah.....I can fly up to the top of that mountain in the background. :P

Those two screenshots where beyond terrible If you wanna promote Vanguards graphics post some good screenshots next time.

Ahem....

The Player is in control of the character proportions. If they look odd, it is because YOU put the sliders in an odd combination.

PS: Too bad the gameplay of LoTRO is lacking.

Originally posted by Blurr

Personally I find LOTRO to be much more bland, and "last generation" graphically. It reminds me alot of DDO's graphics (as well as other areas). The animations (for example, running and combat for my elf) left me disappointed as well.

I find I'm just not impressed with the graphics as much as I am with those I see in Vanguard. That being said, I do have the system to run both games at max settings, so I really notice the difference between the limited graphics of LOTRO and the graphics of Vanguard which can fully use my system.

However, if Lowdos is correct and the beta version is a "low-res" version, I could certainly see why LOTRO's graphics are so much worse comparitively.

Here's a screenshot from my system with Max settings on: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4913/screenshot00006qq6.jpg

They're certainly not doing themselves any favours in my book by running with a low-res client. Using the high-res client would allow us a much better feel of what the game world was going to be like, instead of the bland feeling I get from what I see above. However, I expect that they know any high-res client would also mean increased performance issues, which is why they'd be holding it back I imagine.

I'm still waiting to be impressed by LOTRO at this point, but I'll certainly give it the benefit of the doubt. I can atleast say I imagine the hardcore LOTR fans will love it either way.

"Pot meet kettle" "You're Black!" "Shut up! So are you!"

Vanguard is far from 'next generation'... in fact its like a generation backwards. The animations are terrible and the graphics are blah (yeah I ran them on max settings at 30fps and I still thought they looked crap). The bottom line is that LOTRO does more, with less. Once again goes to show that pure polygon crunching doesnt make the graphics great. Hell even guild wars looks more impressive than VGSOH.

Since they are pals with Sony again perhaps Sigil should go consult EQ2 programmers on how to have awesome graphics. The latest version of LOTR beta is looking very promising, might be what I need to tide me over until Conan.

Originally posted by swede2

Originally posted by Mars505


This picture is realing a great one to see the emotionless  combat. Also start seeing a huge pattern in VSoH of everything is just bumpmaped in wide open terrian with little foliage , think that is why people considered it bland. Does VSoH have any jungles or Rain Forests ? I know that some classes start out in well wooded area but after you journey out , that seemed to sharply decrease....


Here is Everquest 2 screenshot, looks like better shaders and color palette in my opinion

You havent even played vanguard and your trying to tell me which game's look better , your E2 screenshots looks like 1000s of others ive seen ,  nothing great but still ok . Tell you strait up i play on a top of the line computer i run the game at 1920 x1200 with every setting maxed on a dell 24 inch wide screen no game our right now even compares to vangaruds graphics

Originally posted by Tuche

 

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Originally posted by Phoenixs

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Originally posted by AssAssin_666
is it just me , or Do the chars in Lotro look really :/ out of proportion, Guys got the waist of a women with an eating disease .
Imo Vanguard has some weird proportions, LOTRO does far better in this department than Vanguard. There are some really ugly looking proportions. So far I have only found 3 races that look ok, out of all the races.

Examples of terrible looking races in Vanguard:

Kurashasa: The heads are just plain wrong. Looks quite good from the side, but from the front it is terrible.
Vulmane: Impossible to get the chest to look ok. This also applies to most races, sadly

Only ones I have found good so far are:

Orc
Goblin
Lesser Giant
The Elf's look quite good to, but they look terrible in caster gear, and their body proportions look weird no matter what you do with the sliders.

A example of how wrong it can go in Vanguard:

Originally posted by Ghostwise
I've played both games since early beta and while LOTRO is more polished and pretty decent. It isn't revolutionary. Vanguard is by far the prettiest mmorpg out and the deepest in terms of gameplay.

Vanguard screenshots.

In the middle of nowhere and it puts LOTRO to shame.

Another that just looks sick.

Yeah.....I can fly up to the top of that mountain in the background. :P

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Those two screenshots where beyond terrible If you wanna promote Vanguards graphics post some good screenshots next time.

---

if you never played and do not know nothing about vanguard,
PLEASE DO NOT POST SHIT !
what you are taking are the paperdoll shots taken from a char in static position really low quality shot with a placeholder background and also scrinked char and image . . .

but now compare . . .

this from vg : http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/367391582_89056279b3_o.jpg
with this from lotr : http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2248/screenshot00059fz1.jpg

kk thanks see you my friend.