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liddokun 2/14/07 8:12:20 PM
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Joined: 7/08/03 |
WoW isn't innovative at all in the technological sense, however it takes what it does best, polish it to it's utmost gleam and repackage it as something new. Blizzard does best at what it does which is to craft an immersive world rich and deep in lore. |
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noodlesan 2/14/07 8:16:12 PM
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Joined: 9/19/04 |
Millions of people don't think it's a bad game. I played both PvP and PVE aspects of the game and they were great.
However, WoW has used up it's "wow" factor and is becoming a tired game, even with the recent BC release. If you haven't exhausted the game like I have, you will get much more than your money's worth for the game. |
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ram3o 2/14/07 9:25:05 PM
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Joined: 10/04/05 |
What good pc game came out after WoW? O, yeah Best PC Game of the Year - GameSpot isnt WoW, it was Halflife 2. http://goty.gamespy.com/2004/pc/index.html |
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baff 2/15/07 1:13:39 AM
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Joined: 5/22/05 |
It boils down to a few Stereotypes for me.
The divorced gamer. I used to really enjoy WoW, but I fell out with my clan/gaming buddy. It has totally spoiled it fopr me. The magic is gone and resentment has set in.
The gamer who doesn't know when to move on. I used to enjoy WoW but now I am sick of it. I invested hundreds of hours and by the end of it all I was doing is just raiding and grinding. Raid, raid, raid, grind, grind, grind. I raided and grinded every day for a year and now I hate every inch of it.
He who was nerfed. I used to be the PvP king, now I am getting whupped. The powers that I had specialised in to great effect have been taken away from me simply because I was doing it so well. Something I really enjoyed doing has been taken away from me.
The Rebel. Big business sucks. Anything mainstream is bad. Anything that lots of people say is really good, is really bad. WoW = the MacDonalds of gaming.
He who had issues. Blizzard cancelled my account. Banned me for no reason. My computer is not compatable. All I do is lag.
The Elitist. If it's not free for all PvP it is teh suxxor. If it isn't Meridian 69 or Ultima Online it is teh noobfest.
The Social Misfit. I currently play City of Heroes. It is safe, all my friends are here. I have difficulty making new friends. It is easier to hate WoW than to move into a new social circle. WoW players are all children.
The Forum Reader. My friends call me Mr. Thotbot. I read every post in the forums. Consequently I am aware of every nerf, fault and bug. I see them all every time I play.
The Guild Wars player. Pay to play is a con. |
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baff 2/15/07 1:25:33 AM
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Hard Core Member
Joined: 5/22/05 |
Originally posted by liddokun It bloody well is. The (working) Auction house. The show item panel in the trade menu. The GUI options. The mod support. The AI. The comedy names. The seamless worlds/on the fly loading. The linking of items into the chat channel. The wardrobe function where you can see what an item will look like on you by simply clicking a hyper link. Bind on pick up. The warriors rage. The rogues stealth. The symbols for marking enemies. The scaleability of the GFX engine. Bosses with drops only placed in instances. The factional language filter.
Innovation after innovation. And yes they have also successfully copied and amalgamated a lot of great features from it's predesscors also.
It's just another RPG to be sure, but it is also a technical marvel. |
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nokturnis 2/15/07 1:30:19 AM
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Joined: 8/25/05 |
Yawnnnnnnnn. too bad end game sucks too bad pvp sucks too bad its boring. |
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satojin 2/15/07 1:52:12 AM
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Joined: 6/13/06 |
Originally posted by baff I made my arguments. WoW is in no way a technological marvel. Not to mention it's way too easy to level up to max level. |
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Nalaeph 2/15/07 3:52:05 AM
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Joined: 10/30/05 |
I wouldn't say I hate it, I played it for ~3-4 month and had a lot of fun leveling my character to 60 during that time, but after the introduction of Battlegrounds (wth, I wanted open world PvP that's actually meaningful, like taking over towns or even zones, not some retarded CtF in some confined instance that belongs into a FPS. A total immersion breaker for me.) and the prospect of running the same instances over and over and over and over as the only activities (don't really care much about alts) I left it and I haven't looked back. I'm actually not even sure why I visited this forum hehe.
WAR seems to adress the above issues, so that's the game I'm looking forward to, even though the first gameplay videos didn't exactly blow me away. |
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Novaseeker 2/15/07 8:19:24 AM
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Joined: 2/01/05 |
It's very much a case of hating the successful and popular by self-proclaimed elite gamers for bringing the unwashed masses in large numbers into their previously unpolluted refuge of MMO eliteness.
Blizzard had a vision: let's take a niche market product (MMOs, which were, pre-WoW, and despite the success of EQ, nevertheless a niche compared to the gaming market overall), drill out much of the tedium, complexity and so forth that tend to make people stay away from the product, repackage it in an accessible forum that not only runs on many systems, but which allows the average gamer to progress and have fun. That was the vision for WoW and it was executed nearly perfectly. The flaw, of course, was the level 60 end-game which was not designed for most gamers, but many people stayed anyway, working on alts, playing another faction, etc., because they found the 1-60 content a lot of fun, despite that glaring end-game inconsistency. Design-wise, the strength of the 1-60 game is what has gotten the high level of subscriptions and maintained them, despite the more hardcore end-game design (at least the one that prevailed before TBC) - and it's the strength of that design and its closeness to the core vision for the game that has made WoW a tremendous success. The "cost" of that success has been that of course WoW has created expectations among the new market of MMO gamers it's basically created itself, ranging from interface to accessibility to playability -- and the "core" gamers resent this influence, and so end up bashing Blizzard for essentially being too succesful at what they set out to do. So it's very much de rigeur to hate WoW if you're one of the more elite gaming types -- in fact, it is almost like a badge of eliteness, or evidence of a rite-of-passage to eliteness. |
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