the numbers are pretty amazing.

This is actually a very smart idea by SOE; it doesn't look like the market is going to die-down anytime soon, so why not control it to some degree.

there are a LOT of ani-ebayers, but the market does exist, and it is almost impossible to not see someone jump in. There probably have been a lot of ppl apposed to a lot of real-world markets, but they still thrive (porn industry, weapon industry, the list goes on and on). As long as there are buyers, and this is not seen as an illegal activity (or if it is), then the market will thrive. Hey, if i can stay at home all day, do something i really enjoy, and make 35k ... i don't think i'll just say no to something like that.

ANd like Over said, its nice to see some 'reward,' in a sence, for the time played. If I were to stop playing a game after x-years, i would rather gain something from quiting, instead of letting my character, and all that hard work go down the drain.

Originally posted by ciid

This is like trying to put a pretty face on the drug trade.Lots of people smoke crack so why not just put it in a vending machine on every corner?

Your sig certainly does you justice.  To compare buying gold to buying drugs borders on if not completely exceeds idiocracy.

Your sig sums up my feelings on your comment nicely...

read personal view >>Only people that don't give a damn about gaming will buy or sell ingame items for real money in rl . And by showing these results, as if they are good?, showed me that SOE doesn't really give a damn about their own games but it is all about the money, you might say every busines is made to make money, and that is absolutly true, but remember good business sells itself without the need for a secondary market or repack it with a different name and call it Station Exchange. But we have to face the truth and see we are living in a selfish me me me world that lost the understanding of respect and in general lost the meaning of what things should mean. Comming forward and say " Hey sorry you know what this game just takes to much time therefor i quitte" is almost it seems a impossible task for some gamers. Its businesses like the secondary market that will continue to ruine it for real gamers. Really why should a game company be worried to keep a game full of content if he already knows that even tho they don't like the secondary market they already know you keep playing their game regardless the awefull grind they have put in their game cause you are stupid enough to buy the items so that you eventualy stay in the game. If people got alittle bit more mature and began to really stop playing a game the moment it becomes a grind/raid contest or whatever reason may popup in your mind thinking to buy the item, game companys would be forced to really think about the overall content of their game instead of the mainly being foccused on Epic and high cost items required at end game mostly. That statement about accepting dissapointment is soooooo true, cause to me it seems that all those people willing to buy the ingame items with real cash can not get over the dissappointment of not being able to get the item/gear/character the way ment to get it. All of this is my personal view on the subject its nice if my view is shared among others but i understand that there will be others against my views. Good thing out all of this is to see alott of different people having all sorts of different views, damn what would this world be boring if we all had the same view, wouldn't it ?

But as long as there is a market, you will see this. Even if all of the legit players leave in a protest, there will sill be those "buyers and sellers" still playing. And i Don't think SOE is greedy...well maybe they are, but others just let this stuff go on, at least SOE took some initiative and decided to put some control on the market.

Originally posted by Ecranomical
But as long as there is a market, you will see this. Even if all of the legit players leave in a protest, there will sill be those "buyers and sellers" still playing. And i Don't think SOE is greedy...well maybe they are, but others just let this stuff go on, at least SOE took some initiative and decided to put some control on the market.

True what YOU said about SOE  , i let meself  get carried away by emotion of frustration about the subject abit

Now if only SOE would auction off Star Wars Galaxies so that another company could do it justice.

Originally posted by Thony

Just curious..what was the topic " General : Casual Play: Happy Anniversary...Belated " about ?? or maybe try to make this sort of way more populair by showing us numbers.

 • 34-year-olds were the biggest buyers of virtual goods, i'm among the 30+ but never once thought to buy something for real currency for some onlinegame.

Must agree that is was a very smart move of SOE to do it their way cause the numbers show that people really bought into it. Good job for SOE  Bad job for the gaming community  atleast for those that game the game. It really makes me sad that people find all sorts of exuses they can think of to justify them buying ingame items/characters for rl currency from saying they have no time blaming others that do seem to have time cause they probebly unemploy'd (i don't know about this but is there a timelimit in mmorpgs??and there can be tons of reasons why someone can put in more hours of play then some narrowminded people think) What happend to patients, working/gaming/playing towards a goal. Is it really that fullfilling to buy stuff instead of experiancing the adventure and disappointment when not achieved what you wanted, knowing when something is just beyond your reach and accepting that.

A game is a structured or semi-structured activity, usually undertaken for enjoyment and sometimes also used as educational tools. (The term "game" is also used to describe simulation of various activities e.g., for the purposes of training, analysis or prediction, etc., see "Game (simulation)".) Games are generally distinct from work, which is usually carried out for remuneration, and from art, which is more concerned with the expression of ideas. However, the distinction is not clear-cut, and many games may also be considered work and/or art. Key components of games are goals, rules, challenge, and interactivity. Games generally involve mental or physical stimulation, and sometimes both. Many games help develop practical skills, serve as a form of exercise, or otherwise perform an educational, simulational or psychological role. 

It's really quite simple and I'll use your own definition.  I find playing the game to be enjoyable, but there are some aspects I found horrible such as the immense grind in some games required to buy a horse/vehicle.  I don't like that job it is boring, tedious, monotonous and repetitive work.  Your definition states a game is for enjoyment, since I don't enjoy that activity I will bypass it if I can so I can continue to do the things I do enjoy.   Simple.

Venge Sunsoar

Yes because comparing a game people is a lot like a chemically addicting, dangerous and lethal substance.

Venge Sunsoar

Originally posted by ciid

This is like trying to put a pretty face on the drug trade.Lots of people smoke crack so why not just put it in a vending machine on every corner?

 

 

I am not too sure about the RL market.



Personally I don't want to take part in it. I am already paying 15 dollars a month so why add two or three dollars to buy the items anyways?  it all adds up in the end. And In a way It seams like cheating to me I suppose. I am not for it I guess. I can't justify paying more than I have to to just enjoy the game. For example I play Galaxies, and If I need money I go to a bunker, shoot for green or blue level enemies and get Plenty of cash there. (+6000 kinetic/+5000 energy, yay armor!) and that works for me. I came off a quest the other day, and after hitting up the junk dealer, and the credits I looted it came to about 200,000. so for me RL market aint a big thing. I'll stick to my in Game experiance.


well thats my $.02

Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

It's really quite simple and I'll use your own definition.  I find playing the game to be enjoyable, but there are some aspects I found horrible such as the immense grind in some games required to buy a horse/vehicle.  I don't like that job it is boring, tedious, monotonous and repetitive work.  Your definition states a game is for enjoyment, since I don't enjoy that activity I will bypass it if I can so I can continue to do the things I do enjoy.   Simple.

Venge Sunsoar

You are right it is quite simple and with your way the developers never know that you hate that immense grind cause you keep playing their game cause you found way's around it . So ask your self honostly , if someone is playing your game and really got tired of all that so-called grind, but you notice hey' this guy keeps playing my game because he found way's around it eventho you feel its bad he found way's you would be happy that he is still playing your game, so why change anything when people still will continue to play it ??

When a game is not enjoying you anymore be mature and have the guts to say, i quit cause i do not like this kind of gameplay, that will in time send a clear message to developers, if the fun parts of a game can only be reached by bypassing it why the hell even play such game. I played many games some i already knew that it would end up grinding but you know what i stopped the sec. i felt it comm'n

Its everyone o0wn business if they use it or not ,its just a shame not many like playing games, as bypassing things in a game has nothing to do with playing a game, its just being lazy and spoiled, but then again aslong people keep playing mmorpg like FPS online games this trend will never change :(

Instant gratification to achieve a goal faster is an option for many that can afford it.  Economies may go to hell, but I say if you've got the funds to back it, then go for it.  It's your money.  And a secure site selling virtual MMO anything is better than the blackmarket sites that will get you permabanned. 

I got sucked into playing SWG for over 2 years (still my all time fav. game).  At no time did I ever buy virtual property.  I built it up and was gratified doing it.  Then I went to WoW where EVERYTHING was a grind and there was NO crafter market.  Getting anywhere in that game was repetitive, boring and tedious.  There was no way to obtain items you want other than endless, hours long dungeons where you MIGHT get to roll on an item.  Yeah.  I bought WoW gold.  And was gratified being able to pick up a few items that made me feel better playing it. Least until another "worthy" MMO came out.  Oh yeah, and I sold that tier 3 priest on Ebay for a nice chunk of $ and I don't give a damn who knows it.

Now that Vanguard is out, I feel all warm & squishy that there is a crafter market with potential in game money making and houses you can put vendors in. Vanguard may just become my new all time fav MMO.  Virtual item buying is not an option in that game (we're all noobs anyway, since it just recently released) and the race is on to be the first to success the hard way. Would I buy coins for that game if they were available? Likely.  I want to put my city down that much faster than my rivals. 

Originally posted by Aazgaroth

Instant gratification to achieve a goal faster is an option for many that can afford it.  Economies may go to hell, but I say if you've got the funds to back it, then go for it.  It's your money.  And a secure site selling virtual MMO anything is better than the blackmarket sites that will get you permabanned. 

I got sucked into playing SWG for over 2 years (still my all time fav. game).  At no time did I ever buy virtual property.  I built it up and was gratified doing it.  Then I went to WoW where EVERYTHING was a grind and there was NO crafter market.  Getting anywhere in that game was repetitive, boring and tedious.  There was no way to obtain items you want other than endless, hours long dungeons where you MIGHT get to roll on an item.  Yeah.  I bought WoW gold.  And was gratified being able to pick up a few items that made me feel better playing it. Least until another "worthy" MMO came out.  Oh yeah, and I sold that tier 3 priest on Ebay for a nice chunk of $ and I don't give a damn who knows it.

Now that Vanguard is out, I feel all warm & squishy that there is a crafter market with potential in game money making and houses you can put vendors in. Vanguard may just become my new all time fav MMO.  Virtual item buying is not an option in that game (we're all noobs anyway, since it just recently released) and the race is on to be the first to success the hard way. Would I buy coins for that game if they were available? Likely.  I want to put my city down that much faster than my rivals. 

Yeah if you can afford it DO IT !! Let there be much more games like WOW ..Hip Hip...HOORAY !! If people can afford to buy those items anyway so they keep playing the game they find grind, no crafter market, endless hours long dungeons why not . Soon i hope  we can all buy gold in Vanguard and be the first to say we made a city with our rl cash in mmorpg YAY! YAY! real gamers we are and we don't give a #$#%^

/sarcasm off

 

Why have i been so stupid to take driving lessons while i already could afford a car long before i took those lessons

 

Originally posted by Thony

Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

It's really quite simple and I'll use your own definition.  I find playing the game to be enjoyable, but there are some aspects I found horrible such as the immense grind in some games required to buy a horse/vehicle.  I don't like that job it is boring, tedious, monotonous and repetitive work.  Your definition states a game is for enjoyment, since I don't enjoy that activity I will bypass it if I can so I can continue to do the things I do enjoy.   Simple.

Venge Sunsoar

You are right it is quite simple and with your way the developers never know that you hate that immense grind cause you keep playing their game cause you found way's around it . So ask your self honostly , if someone is playing your game and really got tired of all that so-called grind, but you notice hey' this guy keeps playing my game because he found way's around it eventho you feel its bad he found way's you would be happy that he is still playing your game, so why change anything when people still will continue to play it ??

When a game is not enjoying you anymore be mature and have the guts to say, i quit cause i do not like this kind of gameplay, that will in time send a clear message to developers, if the fun parts of a game can only be reached by bypassing it why the hell even play such game. I played many games some i already knew that it would end up grinding but you know what i stopped the sec. i felt it comm'n

Its everyone o0wn business if they use it or not ,its just a shame not many like playing games, as bypassing things in a game has nothing to do with playing a game, its just being lazy and spoiled, but then again aslong people keep playing mmorpg like FPS online games this trend will never change :(

Don't twist my words around.  I never said I do not enjoy the game, nor did I say I bypass a game.  I said I do not enjoy some aspects of the a game, specifically pointless grinding.  Now grinding is strictly in the mind of the person doing it, and same with pointless.  If I do not enjoy a game I stop playing.  However if I do enjoy the overall game but not one aspect, then that is:

1.  Not a reason to cancel a game, IMO

2.  Not a reason to get all up in arms and have the developer change it to fit my particular playstyle

and bypassing some parts is not being lazy and spoiled it is choosing your priorities and being efficient. 

You can never eliminate grind.  It is impossible because Grind is mental and depends completely on your point of view.  What some people view as grind other people enjoy.  I choose to play a game for enjoyment, therefore I will only play till I stop enjoying the overall game.

Originally posted by Reklaw

Originally posted by Aazgaroth

Instant gratification to achieve a goal faster is an option for many that can afford it.  Economies may go to hell, but I say if you've got the funds to back it, then go for it.  It's your money.  And a secure site selling virtual MMO anything is better than the blackmarket sites that will get you permabanned. 

I got sucked into playing SWG for over 2 years (still my all time fav. game).  At no time did I ever buy virtual property.  I built it up and was gratified doing it.  Then I went to WoW where EVERYTHING was a grind and there was NO crafter market.  Getting anywhere in that game was repetitive, boring and tedious.  There was no way to obtain items you want other than endless, hours long dungeons where you MIGHT get to roll on an item.  Yeah.  I bought WoW gold.  And was gratified being able to pick up a few items that made me feel better playing it. Least until another "worthy" MMO came out.  Oh yeah, and I sold that tier 3 priest on Ebay for a nice chunk of $ and I don't give a damn who knows it.

Now that Vanguard is out, I feel all warm & squishy that there is a crafter market with potential in game money making and houses you can put vendors in. Vanguard may just become my new all time fav MMO.  Virtual item buying is not an option in that game (we're all noobs anyway, since it just recently released) and the race is on to be the first to success the hard way. Would I buy coins for that game if they were available? Likely.  I want to put my city down that much faster than my rivals. 

Yeah if you can afford it DO IT !! Let there be much more games like WOW ..Hip Hip...HOORAY !! If people can afford to buy those items anyway so they keep playing the game they find grind, no crafter market, endless hours long dungeons why not . Soon i hope  we can all buy gold in Vanguard and be the first to say we made a city with our rl cash in mmorpg YAY! YAY! real gamers we are and we don't give a #$#%^

/sarcasm off

 

Why have i been so stupid to take driving lessons while i already could afford a car long before i took those lessons

 

 

Well lets see even if you cannot afford it, earn minimum wage, it still makes sense economically.  You make $7.25 per hour (minimum wage here in B.C), and say buying things cost 85 dollars for 100,000 plat (using everquest) well then that means I spent 11 hours of time to earn that money.  But earning 100,000 plat when starting from scratch would cost take approximately 1000 hours of RL time even at the most efficient (again from scratch you haven't mastered a trade yet and even then would still take considerably more than 11 hours). 

Now what ended up costing you more.  In the thousand hours I spent wasting time doing an annoying part part of a game, you could have earned much, much more money andenjoyed your game again.

 

Venge Sunsoar

The way I see it, there are three sides on this issue:

First you have the hard-core, power-gamer type. Not defined by the hours played, but by their enormous ego, usually a result of an offline personality disorder or deficiency in life. They may be over-competitive and have to always be the best, low self-esteem, or the may have a disappointing career, love life, social life, family life, etc., and only feel empowered when they are "teh uber best" in an online game. These players are threatened by the prospect of virtual items sold on the marketplace because they strive to grind their life away in a virtual realm where people will point at their armor and look at their level and go "Ooooh! Ahhhhh!". These players are usually the most vocal on community bulletin boards and are the cause of the boring grind in games. As such, they've unknowingly created the market they decry so much.

Second, you have the casual, power-gamer type. Not defined by the hours played, but by their enormous ego, usually a result of an offline personality disorder or deficiency in life. They may be over-competitive and have to always be the best, low self-esteem, or the may have a disappointing career, love life, social life, family life, etc., and only feel empowered when they are "teh uber best" in an online game. These players are too lazy or impatient to grind away their life away in a virtual realm and would rather buy a pre-made character or rare items so that they can get by "all that BS grind" and jump straight to the end game. Since they've bypassed the built-in learning curve in the game, they give everyone who would like to participate in a market a bad name as they totally fail in the end game content.

Finally,  there are the normal folk, who really don't care if people buy characters, gold or items. These are normally healthy, well-adjusted persons that group with their friends, guild, and the occasional non-spaz pickup, that measure progress in the game by their enjoyment (aquisition, exploration, or killing the biggest meany in the game). These players usually end up laughing the the first two, because who in their right mind would spend tens, if not hundreds, or game hours grinding the same dungeons, mobs, etc for a chance at a piece of  "teh uber best" equipment in the game or spending tens, if not hundreds of real currency for "teh uber best" equipment in the game.

There are all three posting on this thread, I believe. Which one are you?

There's really nothing new in what SOE is doing here. The MMO privateers have been openly marketing gear and gold from various online games and will no doubt continue. However, if you what to witness the extreme madness that some MMO developers are willing to go then check out this news article: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4421496.stm. The future of this kind of "Second Life" industry remains bright, SOE is more than likely just trying legitimize it or to make it a little less insideous by adding there name to it. Good luck with that Big Sony Man! So save your gold, gils, creds, peds, lindies or whatever for ingame auctioned gear and breakout the Visa or M/C for the all important tweeking your weak ass toons need. LOL!! The bottom line though has nothing to do with SOEs or any other devs bottom line, it has to do with what you will enjoy and if forking over some real cash for virtual real estate or that top notch gear does it for you then have fun. ;-)

P.S. Thony, I could tell from your original reply where your thoughts ended and the wikipedia definition began. Not only was the spelling and grammar much improved but it went even further off the topic. Let me be the first to inform you clearly once and forever that NO GAME IS MEANT TO BE 100% FUN. They are all work with the hope of meeting and exceeding obstacles and challenges for the sole purpose of victory, be it professional sports, a chess match, MMOs or playing cribbage with Gramps. It's because there is always a loser that no game can ever be completely fun. But deep down inside, (he whispers) "I think you know that."

 

Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

Originally posted by Thony

Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

It's really quite simple and I'll use your own definition.  I find playing the game to be enjoyable, but there are some aspects I found horrible such as the immense grind in some games required to buy a horse/vehicle.  I don't like that job it is boring, tedious, monotonous and repetitive work.  Your definition states a game is for enjoyment, since I don't enjoy that activity I will bypass it if I can so I can continue to do the things I do enjoy.   Simple.

Venge Sunsoar

You are right it is quite simple and with your way the developers never know that you hate that immense grind cause you keep playing their game cause you found way's around it . So ask your self honostly , if someone is playing your game and really got tired of all that so-called grind, but you notice hey' this guy keeps playing my game because he found way's around it eventho you feel its bad he found way's you would be happy that he is still playing your game, so why change anything when people still will continue to play it ??

When a game is not enjoying you anymore be mature and have the guts to say, i quit cause i do not like this kind of gameplay, that will in time send a clear message to developers, if the fun parts of a game can only be reached by bypassing it why the hell even play such game. I played many games some i already knew that it would end up grinding but you know what i stopped the sec. i felt it comm'n

Its everyone o0wn business if they use it or not ,its just a shame not many like playing games, as bypassing things in a game has nothing to do with playing a game, its just being lazy and spoiled, but then again aslong people keep playing mmorpg like FPS online games this trend will never change :(

Don't twist my words around.  I never said I do not enjoy the game, nor did I say I bypass a game.  I said I do not enjoy some aspects of the a game, specifically pointless grinding.  Now grinding is strictly in the mind of the person doing it, and same with pointless.  If I do not enjoy a game I stop playing.  However if I do enjoy the overall game but not one aspect, then that is:

1.  Not a reason to cancel a game, IMO

2.  Not a reason to get all up in arms and have the developer change it to fit my particular playstyle

and bypassing some parts is not being lazy and spoiled it is choosing your priorities and being efficient. 

You can never eliminate grind.  It is impossible because Grind is mental and depends completely on your point of view.  What some people view as grind other people enjoy.  I choose to play a game for enjoyment, therefore I will only play till I stop enjoying the overall game.

Sorry m8 but i have not twisted your words as i said  "when a game is not enjoying you anymore" also the bypass word was nothing i said you said. it was just me who used that term trying to explain that i see it as a sort of by-pass in a game.

I'm fully with you with your view on "what some people view as grind some can enjoy" i'm like that and don't see stuff in games really as a grind but  as a part of that characters life we choose to play. And you made a point and i agree with you on choosing priorities en being efficient but only when a game allows it the legit way like in the Station Exchange, i do dis-agree to call it choosing priority's and being efficient if the game doesn't actualy allow that type of thng in its game.Personaly when i need to buy something ingame to contineu to have fun is basicly the point where it stops being fun to me. Rather put that money in a slotmachine with hoopes their might drop more out then i put in. But like i said each his own, but next time make sure i really have twisted your words other then that discussions are good and give different perspectives :)

Originally posted by Gonodil

Originally posted by Thony

accepting something that is beyond your reach makes you a loser ?? It will make a person  stronger to face new challenges but then again by reading your comments you must be living with a very narrowminded mind.

. And btw a alittle bit of advise to you, when you play a game and you feel it is just a bunch of generic grinding , don't play it, i can do it, maybe you could too.

So admiting defeat in a game will make a person stronger and want to face new challenges? How deep up your ass did you have to reach to pull out that little gem?

And some games are actualy interesting at high levels, like DAoC, so if you skip the grinding and money farming needed to be good at lvl 50, then why play another game?

 

 

Because you really think that the things you do in a game defines what you are in life ?!?

Before buying in game stuff you better save some money for a brain.

---

John Smedley, President, Sony Online Entertainment - "...Some of our Station Exchange players are literally paying for their subscription to EQII, while others are making significant money."

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Lol, ya gotta wonder what goes on in his head. I wonder how he found out that "players are literally paying for their subscriptions"? I'm pretty sure paying is a requirement. lol

Originally posted by Thony

Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

Originally posted by Thony

Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

It's really quite simple and I'll use your own definition.  I find playing the game to be enjoyable, but there are some aspects I found horrible such as the immense grind in some games required to buy a horse/vehicle.  I don't like that job it is boring, tedious, monotonous and repetitive work.  Your definition states a game is for enjoyment, since I don't enjoy that activity I will bypass it if I can so I can continue to do the things I do enjoy.   Simple.

Venge Sunsoar

You are right it is quite simple and with your way the developers never know that you hate that immense grind cause you keep playing their game cause you found way's around it . So ask your self honostly , if someone is playing your game and really got tired of all that so-called grind, but you notice hey' this guy keeps playing my game because he found way's around it eventho you feel its bad he found way's you would be happy that he is still playing your game, so why change anything when people still will continue to play it ??

When a game is not enjoying you anymore be mature and have the guts to say, i quit cause i do not like this kind of gameplay, that will in time send a clear message to developers, if the fun parts of a game can only be reached by bypassing it why the hell even play such game. I played many games some i already knew that it would end up grinding but you know what i stopped the sec. i felt it comm'n

Its everyone o0wn business if they use it or not ,its just a shame not many like playing games, as bypassing things in a game has nothing to do with playing a game, its just being lazy and spoiled, but then again aslong people keep playing mmorpg like FPS online games this trend will never change :(

Don't twist my words around.  I never said I do not enjoy the game, nor did I say I bypass a game.  I said I do not enjoy some aspects of the a game, specifically pointless grinding.  Now grinding is strictly in the mind of the person doing it, and same with pointless.  If I do not enjoy a game I stop playing.  However if I do enjoy the overall game but not one aspect, then that is:

1.  Not a reason to cancel a game, IMO

2.  Not a reason to get all up in arms and have the developer change it to fit my particular playstyle

and bypassing some parts is not being lazy and spoiled it is choosing your priorities and being efficient. 

You can never eliminate grind.  It is impossible because Grind is mental and depends completely on your point of view.  What some people view as grind other people enjoy.  I choose to play a game for enjoyment, therefore I will only play till I stop enjoying the overall game.

Sorry m8 but i have not twisted your words as i said  "when a game is not enjoying you anymore" also the bypass word was nothing i said you said. it was just me who used that term trying to explain that i see it as a sort of by-pass in a game.

I'm fully with you with your view on "what some people view as grind some can enjoy" i'm like that and don't see stuff in games really as a grind but  as a part of that characters life we choose to play. And you made a point and i agree with you on choosing priorities en being efficient but only when a game allows it the legit way like in the Station Exchange, i do dis-agree to call it choosing priority's and being efficient if the game doesn't actualy allow that type of thng in its game.Personaly when i need to buy something ingame to contineu to have fun is basicly the point where it stops being fun to me. Rather put that money in a slotmachine with hoopes their might drop more out then i put in. But like i said each his own, but next time make sure i really have twisted your words other then that discussions are good and give different perspectives :)

Allright I apologize and agree that when a game becomes boring I quit, absolutely.  However I will not quit when I like the game but dislike one part (normally anyway unless the whole game becomes about that part).

Venge Sunsoar