Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

To the OP: I could not disagree more with your entire post.  If I didn't know better, I'd think you were blatantly lying.  No, we probably just have polar opposite opinions of VG or MMOs in general.

You said, "...what angers me the most: A company that FORCES the players to upgrade their machine just to play when the graphics are NOT worth upgrading for."

The graphics and (combat) animations in VG are awesome.  Are you new to PC gaming?  If not, it should not surprise you that the newest games (just friggin released!) require the newest rigs to fully enjoy.  The game lets you turn down everything and even turned down, the game looks awesome.

Originally posted by anarchyart

Originally posted by RonnyRulz

 The character models are cartoony...

Lost me. They are not cartoony. And also admitting you're trolling, pathetic. You sir are a disgrace to the online community. Good day.

RonnyRulz your in the from forum mate try http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/forums/gameID/15/loadFeature/0/

Thanks for coming on down, now hop it.

Did you really need to create like 4 different threads today troll?

I think the graphics look good etc...but I agree with the less than stellar character models. They really bother me...I may just be too picky.

Purchased this game yesterday, and sad to say nothing but bugs / problems / flaws. I was quite excited to purchase and play this game after all of the media and reviews I had seen, but received nothing but disappointment. I would not recommend this game to anyone, and will chalk it up as a bad consumer purchase. Still beyond me as to why stores would even stock this game on shelves next to other retail games, as I would not try this game again even if it was F2P in the future. (But if you like mmorpgs with flawed game engines, choppy graphics, stiff gameplay, and a ton of bugs, then this might be the game for you.)

I think somebody needs to define bugs. I am level 13 now, for me a bug is something that stops me in what I am doing. I have not encountered ONE THING that has stoped me from doing something. EXCEPT some graphics issues that I think are from my ds3 not liking my 7950gx2.

So, about all these BUGS BUGS BUGS posts.

I dont see any? Please find them for me.

Originally posted by anarchyart

Originally posted by roadwarriors

whoever  said that you can't tell the difference between 30 fps and 60 is wrong. I can tell the difference.

It's only when nothing on screen is moving that you can't. When thing sstart moving you can tell.

You're right and thank you for pointing that out. The us air force did tests where pilots could identify an aircraft from a single frame displayed for 1/220th of a second. With todays video cards, we have verified that the human eye can see  beyond 200 frames per second. You can thank the us air force and the video game industry for that one.

Yep read that. 

That test was in the reverse of the way that your monitor works as well, dark over light.  You can pick out a bit of light at 200 fps when flashed over a dark spot, as apposed to a few dark frames flashed over many light ones.  The eye has trouble picking out the dark frames because of the after image left behind.  Those same guys wouldn't have been able to pick the dark spot out of a series of light frames moving at 1/220 of a second, same way you cant pick out the flashes of dark frames when your watching the tv even though they're there.  Yet that test didn't determine the rate at wich your eye can view images flashed across a computer monitor because it's not viewed the same.

There was a dif.

That test also only accounted for a single image flashed over many dark frames.  It's not quite the same thing as taking a constant shifting image and trying to distinguish between frames of flashing light over dark spaces. 

Alos all those test indicate that the way that you persieve the image has a lot to do with it.

GTA: San Andreas runs at 28 fps and 30 is the norm for a game.  Still think it matters?

If the character animations aren't programmed with 60 frames of animation per second but instead only have 30 frames of animation per second, do you think it matters if you are getting 60fps?

The only real benefit of 60 fps is that when it does drop 10 frames you won't notice, but at 30 frames you do.

Edit: Either the same site or another one also pointed out that if you sat and watched something like a movie moving at 120 fps you would most likely end up with a monster of a headache. 

So what the OP is realy saying "Dont buy Vanguard becuase I dont like it". Hey, maybe you can go outside the street and say "Dont buy any red cars becuase I dont like red color!" see how fast you end up in the full house.

I love when people have no idea about computers and post about crappy coding... You have a 2000$ computer... thats not High end by stretch Drop 7 grand and then come talk. And also just cause you spent 800$ on your graphics card doesn't mean your Processor Ram or Front bus aren't bottle necking the heck out of you. Also i've seen people with amazing pc's well over 2 grand still run games like balls. It could be you're running a million aps they don't even know about and their Bios is all screwed up.

Also Games run on different things. Some games are very graphic card dependent, However SOME are very processor dependent. And even OTHERS are very bios ram and FBS dependant All can create the same graphics But the way they process your information is different. Now it doesn't meen the CODING is bad it means your pc is bottlenecking in one of those areas which means you scrimped or squeezed by with a crappy part or 2.

My pc has 1 gig of ram a 3 year old graphic card and a pentium 4... i run the game better than you on Highest quality with an avg of 40 FPS...  (thanx to some ini tweaks) i wonder do you feel like you got ripped off for your 2000?

Before you blame the game for you not enjoying it and your pc having a F poor preformance doesn't meen the coders did anything wrong.

You just have to remember Games are not coded for YOUR computer like a gaming console. They're programmed one way and if YOUR PC is having difficulties doesn't meen it was coded bad it means your pc isn't optimized in one way or another... or it's just having a cinflict somewhere... CRAP HAPPENS DEAL.

And one last remark. 3dmark doesn't prove a darn thing it says my pc is above average too. thats like Saying you're an above average american... that just meens you're SLIGHTLY better than the jerry springer majority.


Oh and on the note of eye sight FPS thingy... Most console games never go over 40 so you look at xbox 360 or ps3 when it's working and tell me you need more fps.

Oh and also try buying a better sound card as the sound in this game is meant for suround sound and eats up alot of FPS if youre not actually using it.. or turn off the sound all together in game garantee a 10fps jump


Pcs are for tweakers. You have to know how to tweak options and optimize the game for yourself as every pc is different. Your can't just go out by a dell and call it a day sticking any game you want in it and it working like a dream. If thats what you want buy a console system thats what they're there for.

Sorry for the ramble