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  Gameloading

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1/20/07 3:54:33 PM#21

NVM - wrong thread

  Cymdai

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It''s my job to be objective, it''s my right to have an opinion.

1/20/07 7:46:03 PM#22
Originally posted by Drumwiz
You kidding me? They didn't even mention Vanguard for Most anticipated? comon, have they even looked at their own forums, the VG forums are hopping like frogs...screw Warhammer, who needs another WoW just made by different people? lame...

I think if the awards happened 2 months back, Vanguard would have been mentioned as the most anticipated.

However, a lot of people have played the beta, and now, well, let's just say a lot of people have seen that there wasn't much to be excited about...
  parmenion

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Joined: 10/02/04
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1/22/07 11:54:34 AM#23
Still baffled why GuildWars is in this category, it's just as much an MMO as Diablo2 was, i.e. not even remotely. Next the chat servers and game servers of Halflife or UT will qualify as a MMO aswell?
  uncletoma

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Joined: 7/28/03
Posts: 112

1/22/07 5:37:30 PM#24
Biggest story: ok, marriage about EA and Mythic can be cool but if EA wanna that WAR become a stupid and "nuwbieslike" (idiot proof) game as WoW... have u never seen an highlander mercenary that kill EA bosses? Expansion of the Yar: I love the damned Faes!!!!!
Most anticipated game: WAR is ok, but...Gods and Heroes? OMG!!! Can be seems another stupid historical MMORPG. And no one of them, till now, is a good or nice game. They are boring, with a lot of hystorical errors. Vanguard SoH or Chronicles of Spellborn are most valuable than Gods and Heroes (and i think that SoE has found the new SW:G. Another futile game!)
Best game: it's a fake, isn't it? Because GW (btw a nice game) is not a MMORPOG! Can be a fantasy MMOG, can have one of the best PvP system never seens but is not a MMORPG. Poeple can prefer WoW or EQ2 or EVE-Online or RF Online (me ) but... Guid War...
  SimplyMichae

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1/22/07 6:09:02 PM#25


Originally posted by Treesong
Is anyone on the Internet *really* interested in these Editorial Awards, let alone the one by Mmorpg.com?

Well, I clicked the link and read the article, so I suppose you could say I was interested.

I mean, I wasn't drooling or quivering in anticipation or anything, but it was worth a couple of minutes of my day.

~ Michael

  uncletoma

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1/22/07 6:18:07 PM#26
Originally posted by Cymdai
Originally posted by Drumwiz
You kidding me? They didn't even mention Vanguard for Most anticipated? comon, have they even looked at their own forums, the VG forums are hopping like frogs...screw Warhammer, who needs another WoW just made by different people? lame...

I think if the awards happened 2 months back, Vanguard would have been mentioned as the most anticipated.

However, a lot of people have played the beta, and now, well, let's just say a lot of people have seen that there wasn't much to be excited about...
BTW, during EQ2 beta i was tired from that game. Horrible, with lotta problems and so no. But now is a very cool game.
Sometime SoE games start not so well and become great time after time. The same thing can happen to Vanguard, too ;)
(and, yes, i think that now is only a nice game. Now. Can become fantastic? I think yes... but my 2007 game is Warhammer Online )
  Ahotare

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Joined: 7/22/06
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My hatred burns as brightly as a star, to guide me through rough seas on moonless nights.

1/22/07 6:53:42 PM#27
Originally posted by Treesong

Is anyone on the Internet *really* interested in these Editorial Awards, let alone the one by Mmorpg.com?  I mean, we all love threads like "Name the 5 best games of your life" but that's because it allows us to talk about our own loved games at length and discuss likes and dislikes. Editorial Awards are like 1 guy talking about his own "Best games evah!" but nobody can join in.


Reading the above made me wince...

Anyhow, it's not the article by itself, but the community expanding on the ideas within it that make it worth reading.  Several interesting points were brought up:

1)  The CCP/WW merger was unexpected and a potentially huge influence on the development of EVE

2)  While the MMORPG qualification for GW is a moot one, what can't be denied is that their business practices are successful and innovative and thus worth notice by players and industry reps alike.

3)  Vanguard is certainly controversial, as evidenced in this thread, let along in the VSoH forum.

Edit for confusion on facts :(
  Rexfelis

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1/22/07 11:21:55 PM#28


Originally posted by parmenion
Still baffled why GuildWars is in this category, it's just as much an MMO as Diablo2 was, i.e. not even remotely. Next the chat servers and game servers of Halflife or UT will qualify as a MMO aswell?

Some companies are trying to do something different from the traditional EQ or WoW model, and the differences can be large enough that they are Not MMOs, at least by the same standard as earlier well-established MMO games.

I personally think that MMO means: the main game-play includes interaction with a large population of players that are not on your team of 6 people, or whatever. Thus I decline to call an MMO any game like GW or DDO or Diablo 2 that makes heavy use of instancing and you only ever adventure with your group, and never interact with other group that is also adventuring. City of Heroes is an MMO because they do have shared world space where lots of players can have their characters interact, even though CoH also has instanced missions without this MMO interaction.

  EricDanie

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Posts: 2127

1/23/07 10:16:38 PM#29

In your face. Guild Wars got recognized.

Why is Guild Wars considered a MMORPG while its developers consider it a CORPG? Simply because of the fact it would be unique to the genre. But nevertheless it's still a MMORPG, because any contest would have to include "BEST CORPG OF THE YEAR" award. You don't want that, do you? Most of you won't want anything that cannot be awarded to EVE or WoW anyway. Most understand though, that Guild Wars is closer to a MMORPG-genre than a RTS, FPS, etc.

Sorry if this was a bit too harsh, but you will have to survive the fact that Guild Wars is a good game and deserves its award. Yep, no EVE or WoW for this one. The Editors have their own opinions as these awards are not based on popularity, but instead on an active game, with excellent gameplay and graphics, a respectable following, and contributed to the genre. You can't say Guild Wars isn't one of the most innovative games of 2005/2006 (considering their chapters, too).

  therave

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Joined: 1/24/07
Posts: 2

1/24/07 8:27:15 AM#30

I thought people might find this information useful:

The creators of Guild Wars class it as a CORPG, a "Competitive/Cooperative On-line Role-Playing Game". Some might say that this is not a MMORPG, and you would be partly correct, but also partly incorrect.

Lets look at the definition of a CORPG:


competitive/cooperative online role-playing game (commonly abbreviated CORPG) is an online genre of computer and video games centered around the creation and development of an avatar with the intent of competing with and against others in a global competition or cooperating together in a private instance of the game world. It is considered a sub-category of massively multi-player on-line role player games.

I would like to direct your attention to the last sentence of this definition:
"It is considered a sub-category of massively multi-player on-line role player games."

Therefore it has every right to be part of a MMORPG website/competition/rating system.

  brownspank

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1/08/08 10:03:03 PM#31

"Show me your hatred for Guild Wars, and I will tell you how far you got through playing it (if at all)."

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