Originally posted by Ugottawantit

This editorial left out two major things in the expansion. Obviously the reviewer was to obssesed with reaching level 70 to even try them out. that would be the Blood Elves and the Draenai.

Both offer beautiful new starting lands and increased powers over the original characters. It will be interesting to see what happens when these characters reach outland.

There is much more to the expansion than just Outland.

Originally posted by NineSpine
Have fun with that Draeni in levels 20 - 60 of WoW original.

Originally posted by DemonOvrlord

"One thing that has changed so far, it’s very funny to see the raider vs. non-raider fights break out. I play on a PvP server and the guilds who were notorious for having a large advantage because of their item power level are now constantly being assaulted by guilds that formerly where powerless against them. Because the gear is so strong in the expansion, players in green items can beat some of the old players in their epics.

It leads me to wonder, even though it’s the same type of quests and same faction grind, it will be a lot of fun to see the new order of players rise as old guilds fall. I find this story more compelling than Illidan at the moment."

Now THAT'S funny as heck.  You have to wonder how elitist hardcore raiding guild like  WoW designer Jeff Kaplan's Fires of Heaven (One of the few WoW guilds ever allowed a FREE transfer from a PvE to PvP server) are doing now that they don't have the crutch from all their MC, AQ and Naxx grinding.  

Maybe WoW actually has a chance of becoming a little more skill based - or at least offering a more even playing field and no longer catering to hardcore raiders.   

I was really looking forward in december for BC so i ordered it and it arived last Thuesday, installed it, 2 updates, login worked perfectly, went for Draeni, pass the little intro, saw the starters area walked towards the first quest giver and really thought to meself why in earth would i contineu, first of i've been a hugh fan of WOW  (lets face it there wasn't much else that felt as stabel) but i was/am in Vanguard beta and especialy after today's update's that game is really the game i was waiting for. I had some awesome times en pleasureble experiances in WOW but i have noticed that i really like to move forward, amaze meself with new surrouding, BC might look somewhat new but it al comes at me as the same.

Afcourse  WOW will stay succesfull cause for now its still the most stabel game to be played on any type of computer system. But for everyone that keeps their system uptodate as in high-end systems they will definitly move on to the more evolved kind of mmorpg's like Vanguard and LotrO.

People that have played Vanguard after today's update really got the feel what the game will be like, those that havn't played after today's update have missed alott. (noticed that lag also really depended on wich b.server you played as Server 1 was laggy as hell when i tried as Server 3 wich i played all beta is completly lag free, so the more server the beter it will get for those that might still have some lag)

So my conclusion about BC is that it will survive aslong people don't upgrade there systems. And afcourse those that became really commited as in guild/factions will stick to their game.The tactic of Blizzard is fantastic i mean i'm sure if every mmorpg gave out a free 10 day trail for like 6 months in a year  you be sure to atleast keep some of them to sign a sub-fee after the trail. The thing what holds back i think for most people is the lack of being able to really tryout a game before you start spending money on it. And this again is something Blizzard has done with succes.

Vanguard servers closing down the 23th of Jan. to be opened the 30th of Jan. (atleast if all goes well ;) so might hopin and try to experiance BC a little  more, besides still got my Un-Epic Weak Orcy lvl 60 Shaman

Bah!  Nothing new in WoW's overly hyped expansion but I guess everyone knew it would happen although many hoped for something better, something new.  The opening poster seem to be a pro WOW gamer and he said its just a lot more of the same unimaginative...same old. 

I wanted to ask a small question to everyone?

Who is better?????????????

1. Guildwars(the three factions)
2. WoW(TBC)

I brought Guildwars(NF) and i'm thinking about WoW

is there any diffrence between GUildwars(NF) and WOW 

The expansion is unbelievably fun. I'm having a ball. All my friends love it. My guildmates love it. I haven't met a single person in game who doesn't love it.

Bottom line, if you don't like WoW the expansion won't change your mind. But if you are one of the 8 million people who do like WoW this expansion rocks!!

"It will take two years for people to get bored with this product due to lack of content."

This quote from the editorial pretty much sums up WoW as a whole; in that WoW at one point or another becomes a boring game and this expansion has merely prolonged its eventual mass decline in subscribers and players.

....."if you're one of the 8 million people who love WoW" someone wrote.

First off,  this figure of 8 million players WoW loves to over hype to the gaming world may not even be true.  With this said, even if it's true that this figure existed,  it's 8 million who have played this game at one time or other.  Not 8 million current suscribers.  Besides, with as many servers as the game currently has, do you in your wildest dreams really think it's holding 8 million players worldwide?  Pluzzeee!!!

I think just as many dislike the game and the bulk who do played it at some time or other.  These players are part of the figure WoW constantly throws around.  It's like every time someone registered the game to play it, a little bell goes off, ding!  That player gets counted as do all others who played it.   At the end they all add the final figure but that dosen't mean they all loved it,  many have already left because they don't like it for whatever the reason but they still get counted.

8 million people love WoW.../gasp* choke*, pftth!!!

Most of your article was spot on, with the exception of one very important thing.  You claim 2 years worth of material from this expansion.  :)  Ah, I remember your optimism the first time I loaded the beta client.  I was all charmed by the Burning Crusade all the way till 70.  Then, I realized I had nothing to do.  Well, not exactly nothing.  I mean, I could grind for faction.  I could grind the pvp arenas for the best pvp gear.  I could even grind the endless array of raids for bind on pickup gear which lovingly greet you at 70.  I could even take my brand spankin' new uber fast flying mount out for a ride.

But in the end, it's the same old wow.  Nothing really new, creative, or unique.  Leveling up is an absolute blast, but even the slowest player will get to 70 in six months, 3 months for normal late bloomers, 1.5 to 2 months for the "average" gamer, 2 weeks to 1 month for the stereotypical raider, and under a week for the red bull charged psychos out there.  Sure, raids are 25-man now rather then 40-man, but there's not much difference.  Even the supposed savior 10-man raid is a pure joke compared to the real raids.  Crafting has barely been expanded upon, and of the new recipes, they're either bind on pickup (Yes, you now can use your TRADEskill to make bind on pickup gear), or so worthless that you can't sell.  Heck, level 62 greens are better then level 70 crafted items.  It's real bad.

So enjoy leveling as much as you possibly can.  Besides the always stunning artistic work of Blizzard, leveling is the only real redeeming quality of this expansion.  Enjoy!!  :)

Originally posted by sololoco

....."if you're one of the 8 million people who love WoW" someone wrote.

First off,  this figure of 8 million players WoW loves to over hype to the gaming world may not even be true.  With this said, even if it's true that this figure existed,  it's 8 million who have played this game at one time or other.  Not 8 million current suscribers.  Besides, with as many servers as the game currently has, do you in your wildest dreams really think it's holding 8 million players worldwide?  Pluzzeee!!!

I think just as many dislike the game and the bulk who do played it at some time or other.  These players are part of the figure WoW constantly throws around.  It's like every time someone registered the game to play it, a little bell goes off, ding!  That player gets counted as do all others who played it.   At the end they all add the final figure but that dosen't mean they all loved it,  many have already left because they don't like it for whatever the reason but they still get counted.

8 million people love WoW.../gasp* choke*, pftth!!!

 

 

 

 

You don't read do you? In their press release they specifcally exclude cancelled and expired subscriptions from that number.

As to the servers, that's a worldwide figure. When you look at the server list, you don't see all the WoW servers. You only see the list of North American servers.

Sorry to bust your bubble Skippy, but just because you don't like the game doesn't change the math.