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axyrn  12/05/06 5:36:30 PM

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CM writes >>   "All you need to do is to buy the game"

then after the 4th jan 2007 its free.

people i smell something ugly here. they let people play for free if they buy the game ? hmm.

where is the contract that this game keeps running after they sold their boxes ?

i would be careful and dont trust this company. At the end your buying the game for 30$ and they put down the servers 2 month later and this forum will be spammed with angry crybabies :)

I hope the free game includes a trial. If not be careful.


 
lovebug  12/05/06 5:48:39 PM

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umm last i looked dose guild wars not do the same thing, you buy the game and you play online free and buy xpansions when they come out and theres alot playing guild wars.
 
Gameloading  12/05/06 6:51:55 PM

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Ok, honnestly, I have no idea where this sudden distrust comes from, your the second person I hear who says that. There is absolutely NOTHING you base this on and they are completely blind assumptions. A game goes free to play with most likely an item shop, Where in heavens name does that point to the direction the servers will go down? Because you still have to buy the client in a store?

Well, I can explain that for you. Believe it or not, But ArchLord is a more expensive title then games like Silkroad and Flyff. The game spend 4 years in the making and NHN games put a lot of money into it. also, back when the game was in beta in korea, it reached 1 million beta testers. NHN games really won't "Ok, here is our license for ArchLord, go publish it wherever you want, have a great time. No, go ahead, take it, its on the house".

Cm needs to have a form of income somehow, and box sales are one of them.

You ask for a "contract", well that can be said about EVERY mmorpg, monthly fee or not. 

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JelloB2000  12/05/06 7:22:21 PM

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Originally posted by Gameloading
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You ask for a "contract", well that can be said about EVERY mmorpg, monthly fee or not.


Already is a contract of some sort, that big chunk of text when you install any kind of software (or even hardware for that matter).

The context is: they can discontinue service at any time for any reason & you forfeit any kind of claims by installing the software & at the same time you agree to follow these rules. (This applies to all software because noone wants to be responsible for possible damages).

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Gameloading  12/05/06 7:28:42 PM

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Originally posted by JelloB2000


Originally posted by Gameloading
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You ask for a "contract", well that can be said about EVERY mmorpg, monthly fee or not.


Already is a contract of some sort, that big chunk of text when you install any kind of software (or even hardware for that matter).

The context is: they can discontinue service at any time for any reason & you forfeit any kind of claims by installing the software & at the same time you agree to follow these rules. (This applies to all software because noone wants to be responsible for possible damages).


Exactly. that goes for free to play as for pay to play.

Looking forward to:
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seePyou  12/07/06 3:03:09 AM

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If you go and read the Free To Play FAQ you quickly realise that this is an experiment by CM. The experiment is on this basis:

Will out income from game cards be enough to support this game?

You see, ArchLord will allow players to buy one of the ingame currencies by using game time cards. In other words, this game will become, the players that pay for ingame currency will be able to have more than one that just plays for free.

This will break what remains of the game, imho...

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Ake_Gamer  12/07/06 9:20:44 AM

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Originally posted by seePyou
If you go and read the Free To Play FAQ you quickly realise that this is an experiment by CM. The experiment is on this basis:

Will out income from game cards be enough to support this game?

You see, ArchLord will allow players to buy one of the ingame currencies by using game time cards. In other words, this game will become, the players that pay for ingame currency will be able to have more than one that just plays for free.

This will break what remains of the game, imho...


It's not an experiment, it's a return to the way the developers envisioned the distribution of the game. Both Korea and China are F2P with an item shop. The Publisher in the US/EU markets, CM, did a good job listening to their beta testers and meant well with their move to P2P, but it was shortsighted.

In F2P games, everyone gets monthly access to the servers at no cost. The publisher generates income from the sale of items in game for real life currency. This is not a new model and is extremely successful in Asian markets.

It is true that people with more disposable real life currecy will have more opportunity to purchase enhancement items for their character, but they still need to invest time in the game. They can't buy levels, gear, skills etc. What it allows the more casual player to do is keep up with the hard core player who has more disposable time. The person that plays 100 hours a week and buys the minimal # credits will outlevel the person who plays 30 hours a week and spends more real life currency on credits. Where balance comes into play is when you compare someone who plays 30 hours a week and can buy credits with someone who can play 40 hours a week and doesn't buy credits. There will be less of a difference in levels, given they have identical play styles.

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soponyai  12/09/06 5:46:48 AM

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I think the idea of making it F2P is great. This way more people can play it, even those who do not have a lot of money. Also the part about the buying ingame stuff is good. That way Cm will be able to run the servers since they will have the money for it
This should have been the original idea after all. I played the beta, and I thought it is an ok game, but not that good to pay for it monthly. I think I will give it a go again. When I have time. :)

ste2000  12/16/06 11:16:33 AM

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Seriously, are u doubting about Codemasters?

Codemasters is the Second game publisher in Europe after Ubisoft, they are not any dodgy company.
They are not running away with your money, they have their reputation to safekeep and British jails are not very confortable.

Do espect to pay to get uber items in game though (that's the hidden deal) ;)
 
Gameloading  12/16/06 4:33:04 PM