General Discussion

Originally posted by newbinator

I too was in beta, I uninstalled the game after a few days because the frame rate was unacceptable, seriously. I can play anything out there without problems, I ran EQ2 with a decent FPS and had the graphics settings up pretty high. Aside from that, here are my thoughts:

You uninstalled a game that was in beta testing because the performance was unacceptable? Duh. They are asking you to 'test' the game, not 'play' the game. Well others of us stayed in, continued to give constructive criticism and now performance is as solid as some live games with further tweaks coming before launch. This game will out perform EQ2 by miles when its live.

- Graphics: For the resources it takes up I'm really disappointed in this regard, it doesn't look that good, and it's artistically uninspired IMO... the world looks generic most of the time.

"....for the resources it takes up". Perpetuating the myth of the size of this game. Spending any time at all on the beta forums, you would know that this game is not going to be the size at launch as it is now in beta, it is big, of course but unless you have a 40gig hard drive with every other mmo on it, no one needs to worry. My HD is 80 gig and i've got CoH/CoV, EQ2, EQ, GW, DDO and WoW installed, plus the enormous Vanguard. Don't worry about the size of this game. 

 In addition, knowing that your frame rate was so unacceptable as to uninstall the game, I think it is fair to assume you weren't able to crank up the graphics to really see what the environment really looked like. Plus, having only been in Vanguard a few days, there is certainly no way you could know what even 5% of the chunks (zones) look like. Not that everyone will be able to crank it up, but I can assure you that this game is 1000 times more appealing at the highest performance settings compared to EQ2 at highest performance settings.

- Gameplay: Nothing new, been there, done that a hundred times before... only it was more fun in those other games.I really don't need to say anything else. Obviously I didn't get to experience the high end content but if they can't even make the first few levels interesting I wouldn't have high hopes for "end game" content.

In my first three days, I felt the same way sort of, of course my glass was half full and I thought, "The game mechanics are intuitive to a veteran mmo player". The basics are the same as previous games, but then the real game starts and the depth of Vanguard opens up and you realize you have more freedom then you've ever had in an mmo.

PvP: Laughable. A few weeks back they plopped up a PvP beta server and Vanguard PvP was born. It's mindless ganking with absolutely no point to it at all, so if you like PvP with even less purpose than WOW then this is your game.

I love this one....the forums made very clear (and I believe the patch notes too) that the pvp was launched WITHOUT a specific rule set. The devs wanted to gather info from testers and have internal discussions before applying a set of rules, yet still needed to begin testing pvp mechanics, for which they needed player input. It was almost as if they were 'testing' their pvp, a point lost on this guy. 

The one thing I did like is how bards can "compose"(well kinda) their own songs.

Please don't take this guy seriously, he probably shouldn't have been testing (if he really was...this almost sounds like a buddy of his was playing and he was looking over his shoulder for 5 minutes and this is what he got out of it).

Originally posted by severius

Originally posted by anarchyart

Originally posted by solareus
I played for a little while until I was kicked out of the beta.

The graphics are great , but that is about it , same old crap with 0 innovation of any kind.

I watched the dev's in interviews go on on about how the game is a miles stone in mmo's but the  fact is , it falls short of anything innovative. 

I hope Age of conan delivers or i'm going to be playing rappelz for ever lol .

 

Caravan system, fellowship system, player driven boats, flying mounts, huge world with no instancing, self bindable items, diplomacy sphere, craftable houses and ships...there are tons of innovations and I could keep going but it doesn't matter. You obviously don't care.

/shrug

Why did you get kicked out of beta?

UO - Craftable housing check

Swg - Craftable housing... check

Horizons - Craftable housing... check

Dark n Light - Flying mounts... check

Dark n Light - Huge world with no instancing... check

eq2 self binable items... check

SWG - Player made ships and transports and mounts... check

Innovations?  Not hardly unless you are just waking up out of your wow coma.

Vanguard -  game that has every one of the above mentioned features.....check

Taking formally disparate elements and creating something new is innovative. Hence Jazz music, Rock and Roll, PB&J.

Originally posted by solareus
no dice , i been banned for life , There loss :D

Originally posted by Zorgo

Originally posted by severius

UO - Craftable housing check

Swg - Craftable housing... check

Horizons - Craftable housing... check

Dark n Light - Flying mounts... check

Dark n Light - Huge world with no instancing... check

eq2 self binable items... check

SWG - Player made ships and transports and mounts... check

Innovations?  Not hardly unless you are just waking up out of your wow coma.

Vanguard -  game that has every one of the above mentioned features.....check

Taking formally disparate elements and creating something new is innovative. Hence Jazz music, Rock and Roll, PB&J.

Ah, so true innovation doesn't matter anymore. The MMORPG market has been reduced to a giant fricking salad bar. Slap a little craftable iceberg lettuce on your plate, toss on a few FFA PvP crutons and finish it off with some GIANT BOOBS brand salad dressing, and call it something totally new and inventive. And what do you know? people eat it right up and believe every word of it. No wonder they think we are idiots.

MMORPG makers have been playing that particular game for years, hell that method is a big part of what made WOW such a success. Don't call it innovative untill you can come back with something that has NOT been done two dozen times before.

Now, at this time, I do not have a comment to make on the game itself, I have not tried it as of yet, so will leave the final judgements to those who have