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  User Deleted
9/27/06 5:46:36 PM#21

Originally posted by srohek

Originally posted by DX_Intruder

Originally posted by Coman
DX_Intruder I infact like the figthing style. This is how an shooter needs to be....why not? Becouse it does not look like BF2 or CS:S? I personly like the way you fight, outflanking somone does infact make an HUGE differand. If you outflank someone and manage to hit him three time in the head you have an huge head start. Also take into consideration that this game has more then combat. I'm happy we have this kind of system as it keep the average CS person out of the game and would mean that poeple would kill you at every turn. Distroying roleplay even more.


well you kind of admitted that FoMK completely obliterated stealth and tactics with this sentence.

"If you outflank someone and manage to hit him three time in the head you have an huge head start."

a ...head start?  Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds..?  If you shoot someone in the head 3 times their health should be in the negatives...  WAY in the negatives.. unless you were using a BB gun


You're stupid. If all it took was one headshot, then people could just pull out their gun and kill you instantly when you least expected. With the way the combat system currently is, it allows people with consistency, skill, and tactics to win fights.

no need to name-call.

You're still failing to prove me wrong.  You're saying if it just took one headshot to kill, people could kill you when you least expected.  Well, Yeah.  That's the POINT of stealth and tactics - To overcome your enemy through planning and intelligence instead of brute force/power (higher damage gun/most bodyarmor will win if the game is just about brute force).  A good FPS player is away of his surroundings at all times, maybe this game caters to a less tactical crowd?

You mention "consistency", "skill", and "tactics".  "consistency" is just your way of saying fights last really long.  "skill" is basically aim, which yes, of course, this is in any shooter, I agree.  But please watch that video again and explain to me where anyone uses any "tactics".  Or any video.  They're both strafing and moving exactly the same, (in random directions), and constantly shooting (or missing), at the same rate, in other words, they are completely relying on their bodyarmor and firepower, and just holding down the fire button.

If you can find me a video where actual "tactics" (like you said) are shown being used effectively in FOMK (not a guy sneaking around, trying to use stealth, shooting someone once in the back and then rushing forward into a point-blank 5 minute bullet-sprayfest, I'll admit that I was wrong and might even give the game another try. :)

The closest thing Ive seen is someone attempting to throw a grenade up onto a catwalk where enemies/teammates were all randomly shooting each other (not very smart, wouldnt he damage his teammates also?), but the thing is, the grenadier only threw the grenade because no one currently saw him... He didnt, for example, get shot at, and run behind a crate, and throw a grenade over it at the enemy.

  Rubycat

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9/27/06 10:40:26 PM#22
Foms combat IMO is its worst trait.

1. There is no recoil. even though your reticle blooms out while moving, anything in the middle of it is getting hit (watch the bullet trails)

2. Close quarters combat is a mess, with people using the drug Biphetamine(sp) thier stamina the whole time running/jumping around like a monkey will not go anywhere (this is fom combat.. people jumping around like idiots firing shots in your general direction (tactics?.. nope)

3. You use ENORMOUS(sp) ammounts of bullets/energy to take someone down (or be downed).

4. EXPLOITS!!!!.. wall exploiting (shooting others through walls /corners of walls) is rampant.

5. On top of it taking large emounts of ammo for RP's sake to make the combat slower, the guns also shoot very slow (might not be all of them though, they did a weapon revamp and kinda gave each weapon its own characteristics).. but on top of the fire times being slow, this doesnt help with the movement system and lag (friendly fire is a very comon accurance)
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Tactics can still exist though, but they are more combat tactics then shooting tactics.
  Mikey0002

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9/29/06 3:01:29 AM#23
That video only shows a quater of whats going on, besides its some noob who's playing.

FDC use a lot of tactics, including formations, and stances. We also have a mix of medics and commanders for extra support and intelligence. In combat the Commanding Officer would call on in vent who to tag and take out first, everyone would then go and attack that single person to take him down as quickly as possible. The primary targets are always the weaker (unarmour/clone warrior), since they can be just as dangerous.

Have to put something up!

  neuronomad

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10/08/06 3:24:50 AM#24
Never played FoM but that video does look a bit lacking.  But from what I gather this game is more about roleplaying than being a shooter type game.  Too bad there isn't a trial to check it out.

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  Tigge

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10/15/06 3:12:05 PM#25
Two more FoM movies if anyones interested:

http://www.tigge.se/fom/led.fdc.joint.assault.xvid-tagert.avi

http://www.tigge.se/fom/led.fdc.merc.offensive.xvid.proper-tagert.avi

Download xvid codec install if you can't view the movies:

http://tagert.trocisp.com/swg-movies/XviD-package.exe


I don't know how the gameplay is now.

But thats how it pretty much was in the FDC a couple of months back :)

  eddy051

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11/08/06 12:39:30 AM#26

Originally posted by stamgren

That's a little rude, considering how much I did for the BOS in beta and as a rank 5 in retail helping out all of the little newbies that all of the "mid class veterans" ignored. I will be back, I am thinking of coming back in february, hopefully it is fun.. If it hasn't been canceled by then.

Oh, and I will be BOS, you obviously don't know me honey, or should I say, Lord Malak. ;) 

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  stamgren

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11/08/06 11:25:00 AM#27

Oh yes it's Malak Ed. Can't really said you ever helped me. Also i saw some threads where you wrote shit about me without even knowing me as a person..And your attitude where a pain in the arse but if you decide to come back to the game you complaint about SO much before quiting then try atleast not to talk shit about me..or talk shit about the game.

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  shemO

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11/08/06 2:37:09 PM#28
Ed, as far as I am concerned, if you come back you aren't getting anywhere in BoS.

The amount of anti-FoM material you have posted has made me permanently biased against you and others. I also dislike how rude you were to me on the forum shortly before you were banned, though I must say it was amusing to watch you get ragey because I undermined your statements.

Anyway, toodles.
  eddy051

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11/08/06 11:45:04 PM#29

Originally posted by shemO
Ed, as far as I am concerned, if you come back you aren't getting anywhere in BoS.

The amount of anti-FoM material you have posted has made me permanently biased against you and others. I also dislike how rude you were to me on the forum shortly before you were banned, though I must say it was amusing to watch you get ragey because I undermined your statements.

Anyway, toodles.


Shem, your a little british 16 year old smart ass, I could care less about you, whether you are SC or not. There are other people in the faction beside you I am sorry, and I have no memory of your statements you have made towards my post in the past. Furthermore, you cannot base promotions and things in the faction based upon my FOM criticism, I will just complain to DPS, you know, you have heard the stories. Hell, they might even make me the R7, which further shows how asinine DPS is.

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  Smoker1982

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11/09/06 4:59:29 AM#30


Originally posted by eddy051
I will just complain to DPS,

Useless as you wouldnt get your rank back through that, and there is no claim for a high rank especially when you leaved for a while.



Originally posted by eddy051

Hell, they might even make me the R7

As r7 require GM status and and to become a GM it requires a clean userfile [Person Based, not account based]: i dont think so ::::01::

  shemO

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11/09/06 3:43:24 PM#31

Originally posted by eddy051

Shem, your a little british 16 year old smart ass, I could care less about you, whether you are SC or not. There are other people in the faction beside you I am sorry, and I have no memory of your statements you have made towards my post in the past. Furthermore, you cannot base promotions and things in the faction based upon my FOM criticism, I will just complain to DPS, you know, you have heard the stories. Hell, they might even make me the R7, which further shows how asinine DPS is.



You got my nationality correct, have a cookie.

You can complain to DPS all you want, as Smoker's already said, they won't do anything. I may not be able to do anything negative towards you for no good reason, though I can sure as hell stop anything positive within the faction happening.

Kind of funny how things change, I still remember that first mail you sent to me begging for help. Oh how things change.

Oh, by the way, being smart works well, you should try it.

Shem
  Coman

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11/10/06 5:12:55 PM#32

Originally posted by eddy051

Originally posted by stamgren

 I will be back, I am thinking of coming back in february, hopefully it is fun.. If it hasn't been canceled by then.

Oh, and I will be BOS, you obviously don't know me honey, or should I say, Lord Malak. ;) 


Wait....did you not started this whole thread on how crappy it is and what a waste the game was....With all do respect, but I see then the point of this thread.
  KaptainZerg

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12/10/06 5:12:01 PM#33

I've been considering FOM for a while now but there so many negative comments here in this entire section, not only this thread, that I'm not inclined to even try the game.

I watched the combat video that the OP posted a link to, and that was that was very impressive. This video showed four players in a small, enclosed area fighting with rifles and shotguns yet it took quite some time for anyone to die. Looked like lag played a part in all the missed shots which made it seem like some kind of alien race hopping dance more than anything else. A game's combat system is not the end-all for me but if it sucks I'm not going to be interersted in the rest of the game.

  Coman

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12/10/06 5:15:06 PM#34

Originally posted by KaptainZerg

I've been considering FOM for a while now but there so many negative comments here in this entire section, not only this thread, that I'm not inclined to even try the game.

I watched the combat video that the OP posted a link to, and that was that was very impressive. This video showed four players in a small, enclosed area fighting with rifles and shotguns yet it took quite some time for anyone to die. Looked like lag played a part in all the missed shots which made it seem like some kind of alien race hopping dance more than anything else. A game's combat system is not the end-all for me but if it sucks I'm not going to be interersted in the rest of the game.


The combat system is differant, but I do not think it does suck. However there is plenty of room for improvement.
  KaptainZerg

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12/10/06 5:25:20 PM#35


Originally posted by Coman
The combat system is differant, but I do not think it does suck. However there is plenty of room for improvement.


Coman,

How is the combat system "different"? I mean, I watched a video of several players in close combat and it sucked. What more do I need to know or see?

  Coman

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12/10/06 6:49:56 PM#36

Originally posted by KaptainZerg


Originally posted by Coman
The combat system is differant, but I do not think it does suck. However there is plenty of room for improvement.


Coman,

How is the combat system "different"? I mean, I watched a video of several players in close combat and it sucked. What more do I need to know or see?


It is not you standard FPS type of game. The guns do not really do that much damage and poeple can heal themselves. It really something you need to play out and see if you like it or not I can not really explain this in text.
  eddy051

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12/16/06 1:01:31 AM#37

Originally posted by Coman

Originally posted by KaptainZerg


Originally posted by Coman
The combat system is differant, but I do not think it does suck. However there is plenty of room for improvement.


Coman,

How is the combat system "different"? I mean, I watched a video of several players in close combat and it sucked. What more do I need to know or see?


It is not you standard FPS type of game. The guns do not really do that much damage and poeple can heal themselves. It really something you need to play out and see if you like it or not I can not really explain this in text.

That is the classic excuse, "It's not your standard FPS game" or my favorite: "It's not your typical MMO"

I am all for new games that are actually different and fun. This game is different, it isn't fun.

The game's combat system is similar to that of UT, Tribes; or any fast paced shooting game, the trouble is, the developers have tried to make that fast paced gameplay realistic.. duhhhh see the problem DPS?

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  savagegoose

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12/16/06 8:55:10 AM#38
if everything in this game is player made, can u make a shotgun that does like %50 hits
or a scope that makes head shots do like %90 damage
or is everything u make defined already?
  eddy051

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12/16/06 11:15:03 PM#39



Originally posted by savagegoose if everything in this game is player made, can u make a shotgun that does like %50 hitsor a scope that makes head shots do like %90 damageor is everything u make defined already?.


Everything you make is defined already, and you don't craft, you stand in front of a terminal for hours and hours watching a little bar move up and down while it takes your money.
This game is horrible.

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  Coman

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12/18/06 4:00:22 AM#40
It is definded for the simple reason that this game is not about skills. Someone who game in an hour ago can defeat someone who is playing since the start of retail. Simply becouse everyone has the same equipment.
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