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News that Nevrax, the company behind the MMOG Ryzom, had gone into recievership late last week wasa dissapointment for fans of the game. Some of those same fans are now starting a project in the hopes of purchasing the source code, artwork and intellectual property associated with Ryzom in order to continue the game as a "democratically run player project".
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11/29/06 5:16:12 PM#2
This is what makes the Ryzom community so great. I plan on donating. Playing JuxtaWorlds and Fallen Earth. |
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11/29/06 5:48:00 PM#3
This is unlikely to succeed unfortunatly. Firstly a new company could turn Ryzom into a profitable game so it is likely to attract serious offers (which would probably amount to much more than could be raised).
Secondly you have the problem of hosting the game which wouldn't be cheap with all the support associated with such a project. Thirdly if anyone was to commit a seroius amount of money then contracts would need to be drawn up which would take time which would affect the amount of money the venture could bid (you can't really bid unless you know for a fact how much you have to bid with!) It would probably be better for the game if it was sold onto a company who wanted to run the game commercially with experience in this area. |
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11/29/06 6:14:51 PM#4
It's a shame this happend. This game had allot of potental. I hope that things work out so that it can be futher developed and the players of the game can continue to enjoy it.
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11/29/06 6:46:51 PM#5
a game ranked as high as ryzom in mmorpg.com and a game that has turned so many corners to become a playable game!(not my cup of tea but playable all the same these days) will go to another game company it will deffo not just die! hence this is all fruitless..if there wasnt going to be any other offers..it may have been realistic but as it stands its a pipe dream and lets also not forget it ws the wank launch and the year after that which killed this company! not the lack of subs at present..as i have seen with my own eyes lots of ppl play this now! a fresh company without the debts can turn this game around easily! this = player bids against big company bids doomed to fail im afraid :(
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11/29/06 7:49:38 PM#6
Assuming any company on Earth could make this game profitable. This game was never very good - having 'potential' is not the same as delivering good, entertaining game play. I tried it, hardly found it playable and the art style was weak and tepid to put it politely. If this game actually was any good, it wouldn't have gone bankrupt, frankly I'm amazed it lasted this long. But if there really is a loyal fanbase out there, they certainly can't do any worse than the original company. My question is exactly how large a fan base for this mediocre game could possibily be. Creating the Ryzom Ring to generate interest from this fan base didn't seem to do much. Nonetheless, it would be an interesting experiment to watch at the very least if they pull it off. |
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11/29/06 8:27:22 PM#7
You honestly havn't the foggiest idea what you are speaking of. I beta tested this game long ago, thought it was crap and did not try it again untill about 1 month ago, I fell in love, it has come a LONG way, it is the most depth I have ever seen in any MMO since UO, so to say it is a bad game is to simply state your very limeted opinion....
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11/29/06 10:10:20 PM#8
it really shows the strength and dedication of the community.
however i believe in the long term it would be best for a company to
pick it up and not a loose conglomerate of fans.
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11/30/06 12:50:19 AM#9
I tend to agree here. Ryzom is a solid game with an excellent community. I expect that a major company will pick it up (and leave it as it is if they know what's best for the game/community). I like the idea of a community determining what happens with the game, but let's face it - there are just as many drooling, slack-jawed idiots playing MMOs as there are creative & intelligent people. I'm not comfortable with donating and leaving the future of a game up to the masses without some guarantee that there will be good quality work put into it. I'm hoping that another publisher picks it up - leaving the current dev and support teams intact. EDIT: Apparently this group made up a number of former Nevrax employees. If that's the case, maybe it could work. Still unlikely, though. |
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11/30/06 1:01:28 AM#10
So if they manage to scrape up 200.000 dollars.. and the company will sell for 500.000, do they have any obligation at all to return the money to people?
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11/30/06 2:00:55 AM#11
People donating should be given the option of stating if they want a refund or donate the money to a charity. Being gamers , one that comes to mind is http://www.childsplaycharity.org/ . Which was started by creators of Penny Arcade. Scholes |
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Rattrap
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Joined: 9/09/04
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11/30/06 2:15:26 AM#12
According to their site, they already have 53 000 Euros from donations. I would be gladly donating. But only in case of some positive reply from Nevrax.. Lets keep our fingers crossed... "Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas |
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11/30/06 3:16:30 AM#13
Won't happen.
Worst case scenario, a genious scam. Best case, all assets are purchased, everything goes smooth for 1-2 months then money runs out for servers. No new patches are released. Who says who gets access to the "official" server? Where is said server located? Who appoints gm's? A startup company takes the code, and creates a new mmo from it, who has legal claim? This is a very overseas thing, us laws can't do jack. So many variables... All leading to one conclusion, The end. |
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11/30/06 4:52:59 AM#14
God I wish the scam thing happens, thousands of voices crying out in unison is what I live on :)) It's better be hated for who you are, than loved for who you aren't. |
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Arremus
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Joined: 3/08/04
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11/30/06 5:03:45 AM#15
And I did an out loud "Haha what the fark?" at the line I quoted in green.
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11/30/06 8:03:23 AM#16
Everyone is forgetting that these are pledges and not actual cash donations in hand. Whereas any corporate bids for Ryzom would be backed by actual and not 'virtual' financing. Then there are the contracts for service (support/hosting and the like). What company is going to want to deal with a group that cannot guarantee timely payment of the bills? Plus who can be pursued if bills do not get paid? I am sure that whomever is overseeing the receivership case would take these things into account when the various bids are considered. The 'owned by the community' concept is a noble idea but does not work if you want to have fee for play. This is not a discreet piece of software that can be bought and then dumped into the public domain and be expected to survive like Blender. |
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11/30/06 8:03:38 AM#17
as someone else pointed out, I dont like the whole "donation" thing without becoming partial owner of the purchase.
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11/30/06 8:05:19 AM#18
They don't stand a chance. Ryzom was mainly a tool to sell their engine anyway. Only problem was nobody wanted their engine most people choose to purchase the rights to the unreal engines. Ryzom is a good start to a game. The community is wonderful and it has alot of potential. Unfortunately the game needs alot of work to pull in the masses and either Nevrax never understood this or they just didn't have the resources to accomplish it. In any case this game will be snapped up by a much larger entity so a group of gamers doesn't stand a chance. I'd really expect SOE or David Bowman to go after it. |
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11/30/06 8:18:56 AM#19
I think it's an interesting idea but I doubt they can make it 100% free. It will either require donations or a minimal monthly fee to cover costs. Power to the people!
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11/30/06 8:37:43 AM#20
Instead of donations why don't they form a new corporation (could even be a nonprofit) and look to players as investors instead of as donators? It would have a much better chance of success (at least being taken seriously by the creditors), and there would be less worry amongst investors of being taken advantage of.
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