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Originally posted by Endemondia

thanks Lougarou

an mmo which offers what sounds like the Z-lock is DDO Stormreach (which also offers auto target option for those who prefer it). I could be wrong but maybe you could try a free trial if you are interested. I would say that DDO has the best combat system I have seen so far for an mmo - you need to aim with each ranged shot and you can roll out of the way, use shield to time blocks as well as use it as a weapon! In fact even magic attacks have to be aimed and saving thows allowed by pc and npc so more realistic combat! Of course any mmofps is good as well for much the same reason....

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actually, as soon as you select a target in DDO it auto-aims and auto-attacks by default. i believe you can turn this off, though. the rolling and blocking and such really have very little affect on whether or not you get hit. for instance, i had a level 4 thief character with a high balance skill (keeps you from getting knocked down and helps you recover quickly from KDs) and boots of balance (+3 balance). you can also tumble out of the way to avoid KD attacks. however, even with that combination, iron defenders (same level) consistently knocked me down.

the devs *attempted* to fix this. naturally, their idea of a fix was that KD attacks have fewer successes, but you are knocked down for twice as long when they do succeed - even with the high rank in balance. tumbling really became pointless as well - considering mobs hit you either way. it makes me wonder if there's any point in actually increasing skill ranks in balance and tumble...

actually, as soon as you select a target in DDO it auto-aims and auto-attacks by default. i believe you can turn this off, though. the rolling and blocking and such really have very little affect on whether or not you get hit. for instance, i had a level 4 thief character with a high balance skill (keeps you from getting knocked down and helps you recover quickly from KDs) and boots of balance (+3 balance). you can also tumble out of the way to avoid KD attacks. however, even with that combination, iron defenders (same level) consistently knocked me down.

the devs *attempted* to fix this. naturally, their idea of a fix was that KD attacks have fewer successes, but you are knocked down for twice as long when they do succeed - even with the high rank in balance. tumbling really became pointless as well - considering mobs hit you either way. it makes me wonder if there's any point in actually increasing skill ranks in balance and tumble...

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agreed - i turned auto-aimand auto-attack off for more authentic feel. No game is perfect and DDO has got many other problems. However it cannot be denied DDO offers a lot more dynamic in battle than any other mmo fantasy game I have played.

At least the devs tried to fix that problem for you which is more than many other devs would do. I just hope that Turbine learn from all thier mistakes so that LOTRO will be able to challange the WoW powerhouse!

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Originally posted by Lougarou
Endemondia> This is the MMO I was talking about : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cKiJG8BFVQ&mode=related&search=
I'd P2P this game any day. (Battle system is very similar to Zelda's).

Website (Korean) : http://www.lazeska.com/

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The battle system may be good.. but if it doesnt get translated into english it might as well not exist since it wont be apprecieated by the western market in korean.

I seen this game months ago,  i wanted to try it but i have no paitence for kssn searching.

A perfect example of a MMORPG that does not require a point and click is CoH/CoH where they have both options of either point 'n' clickin' or use the keyboard skills that was discussed earlier. You also get 2 different views - first and third. One Korean shooter/MMORPG named SpaceCowboy only uses point and click system when the pilot is inside the city, not when you are flying your ship. But gameplay with 9dragons is not distracting.

City of Villians

City of Heroes

Space Cowboy

Overall, i think they should dump the point and click system and use the traditional movement keys.

Point and Click movement >>>

'A', 'S', 'D' , 'W', 'X' , and Tab keys movement forever!!!!

I tried this game (yes its admittedly still in beta, but over the weeks I was in haven't seen any changes. Patches yes but no idea what they actually did, no notice was ever displayed, saw no changes and the "developers", translaters, whatever have no contact whatsoever with anyone in the beta that I ever saw, I wantted to make comments, but saw no way to do so), I tried to find some enjoyment somewhere in it but couldn't, really have wantted a good Martial arts type game. I wasn't able to find anything at all "fun" in this... Deeply repetitious and incredibly boring. I certainly realize you can't reasonably expect alot from a free to play game, but then if there isn't something enjoyable involved, even free you just aren't going to do it.

any fanbois who feel the need to flame, go ahead, I won't be checking back on this thread to read it

nvm.....