I'm looking forward to FE. It's a shame we have so little info on it.

Yeah, for a no show, that guy sure was excited talking about the game.  This game is going to top anything that has been made yet.  From the very beginning they stated that they did not want to say what was and was not going to be in the game because they didn't want the normal type of hype that some games do (dnl)  and just don't deliver.   From those clips this game definately looks like it is going to deliver. 

No vaporware here!

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Originally posted by wolfmann

"we'll release when ready"

is way better than:

"We'll release what we got and patch it all later"

How many games have lost much because of catastrophic launches and unfinished buggy gameplay?

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Originally posted by Mo0k
When have they promoted anything? I don't see any press releases. All they've done is a couple of interviews about how the game's going.

The video wasn't released by them, remember, it was MOGArmy.

I think they deserve to slack off as much as they want. If they do, then they won't get any revenue from the game, so they lose. Seeing as they haven't stated they will even release the game means that we cannot expect anything from them.

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Obviously mook has done his homework instead of trying to shock and awe the forums with incoherent ramblings.

Amen Mook, Amen

I don't have a ton faith in this game ever coming out. It's hard to get too excited about a company that can't even maintain their lackluster website or release an occasional piece of information about the game they are making. After a few really disappointing low budget MMOS, it is pretty hard to get excited about this one.

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Originally posted by Stowaway
ok bye then, thanks for stopping by. Sure you'll all come crawling back when beta is out.

There are people here who have been waiting and watching this game for literally, years.... it really bugs me when people like the ones that surface in this thread wait a couple of weeks and then moan because its not in beta or release yet.... If you want to play unfinished games, there are plenty on the market. *WE* however, want to see this one nurtured and developed properly.

Go back a few pages and see the amount of discussion about the game that took place before there was any info, back when newsletters had *gasp* CONCEPT ART (and it would be at least 4 months or more untill you got the next newsletter!)..... back before the website was redesigned with the new character designs and concepts. Back when we were looking at the same screenshots for 6 months and just talking about what we could see in them. And it wasn't anything compared to the screenies that come out now. Most of the old screenshots are said to not represent the game anymore.  Infact the majority of the talk was just dreaming and talking about what we'd want in the game......


That is why it is just silly to see people who've probably seen one video or one letter , waited a month and then moan that they haven't been given all the info about the game that will ever possibly be available. 

If you don't want to wait for it, fine? More room and oxygen in the vault for the rest of us.


*Huffs, puffs, then goes off to read the latest fresh sexy newsletter again*

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Originally posted by Stowaway
ok bye then, thanks for stopping by. Sure you'll all come crawling back when beta is out.

There are people here who have been waiting and watching this game for literally, years.... it really bugs me when people like the ones that surface in this thread wait a couple of weeks and then moan because its not in beta or release yet.... If you want to play unfinished games, there are plenty on the market. *WE* however, want to see this one nurtured and developed properly.

Go back a few pages and see the amount of discussion about the game that took place before there was any info, back when newsletters had *gasp* CONCEPT ART (and it would be at least 4 months or more untill you got the next newsletter!)..... back before the website was redesigned with the new character designs and concepts. Back when we were looking at the same screenshots for 6 months and just talking about what we could see in them. And it wasn't anything compared to the screenies that come out now. Most of the old screenshots are said to not represent the game anymore.  Infact the majority of the talk was just dreaming and talking about what we'd want in the game......


That is why it is just silly to see people who've probably seen one video or one letter , waited a month and then moan that they haven't been given all the info about the game that will ever possibly be available. 

If you don't want to wait for it, fine? More room and oxygen in the vault for the rest of us.


*Huffs, puffs, then goes off to read the latest fresh sexy newsletter again*

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Originally posted by Salvatoris

I don't have a ton faith in this game ever coming out. It's hard to get too excited about a company that can't even maintain their lackluster website or release an occasional piece of information about the game they are making. After a few really disappointing low budget MMOS, it is pretty hard to get excited about this one.

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i understand how you feel. with all the half-finished mmos out there players are becoming used to devs hyping and releasing half finished junk in the name of cash flow. i wish they would release some more info, but i guess im willing to wait if it means a finished product at launch.

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Originally posted by Stowaway
ok bye then, thanks for stopping by. Sure you'll all come crawling back when beta is out.

There are people here who have been waiting and watching this game for literally, years.... it really bugs me when people like the ones that surface in this thread wait a couple of weeks and then moan because its not in beta or release yet.... If you want to play unfinished games, there are plenty on the market. *WE* however, want to see this one nurtured and developed properly.

Go back a few pages and see the amount of discussion about the game that took place before there was any info, back when newsletters had *gasp* CONCEPT ART (and it would be at least 4 months or more untill you got the next newsletter!)..... back before the website was redesigned with the new character designs and concepts. Back when we were looking at the same screenshots for 6 months and just talking about what we could see in them. And it wasn't anything compared to the screenies that come out now. Most of the old screenshots are said to not represent the game anymore.  Infact the majority of the talk was just dreaming and talking about what we'd want in the game......


That is why it is just silly to see people who've probably seen one video or one letter , waited a month and then moan that they haven't been given all the info about the game that will ever possibly be available. 

If you don't want to wait for it, fine? More room and oxygen in the vault for the rest of us.


*Huffs, puffs, then goes off to read the latest fresh sexy newsletter again*

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Originally posted by superhero13
Well its obvious you guys love the game and are kissing a$$ to the devs. Have fun with that - i wont even try to stop you.

But even putting up a website creates expecations in a customer. You can live in your fantasy world - in the real business world things are different.

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Originally posted by Boozek

 There is a limit to how much a company can disclose. There is also a limit where the fanbase begins to erode and if said product launches it will need to do alot to attract a playerbase.

Avoiding fanbase erosion might just include lettin us know a bit of info, or just even popping your heads out and saying wtf? it's dark out here.

regardless the game has dropped from very high on my list to almost non existant. Secrecy and public relations are two different things. A simple hello folks we know yur waiting would do a hell of alot to maintain a small playerbase to begin with.

What do you want from them?  You want them to come to your house and hold your hand and say everything is ok.  We need more time to get a finish product?  Let them do their job, you'll here more info soon enough, i'm sure.

Somethings are better left unsaid.

Originally posted by suske

i understand how you feel. with all the half-finished mmos out there players are becoming used to devs hyping and releasing half finished junk in the name of cash flow. i wish they would release some more info, but i guess im willing to wait if it means a finished product at launch. 

Good point, except the Icarus devs have done nothing to hype this project. If anything they've done the exact opposite. Their website, for example, is unbelievably out of date. They haven't even added links to the last 3 newsletters. I'll happily say I think their website is appalling - but I also wouldn't be surprised if that was deliberate. After so much inactivity, I think the second they revamp that site we'll all take that as a sign of impending release. That being the case they probably won't touch it until they are just about ready to release.