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MaeEye Novice Member Joined: 7/18/05 Posts: 994 Astronomy, art, games, and a cup of coffee.	11/03/06 12:20:02 PM#41 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) why did company A have to be everquest though...i wish we would see at least 3 UO copies. Everquest is almost every mmo out there. I hope Darkfall does make it and is fun to play. my guess is no though :( BTW, Warcraft is 100% copy of Warhammer, in every aspect. 1999 - Current UO veteran
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boognish75 Novice Member Joined: 8/21/04 Posts: 1549 People take mmo''s way to seriously	11/03/06 12:38:40 PM#42 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by flame-man also for some reason i think wow's graphics are kinda cartoooie kinda? lol looks like a mascot for some kinda cereal called troll crunchies or something. playing eq2 and two worlds
wjrasmussen Apprentice Member Joined: 4/16/05 Posts: 1504	11/03/06 3:28:55 PM#43 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by aspalmat Gameloading, I fully undestand the gameplay differences between Darkfall and WoW. I was not talking about the gameplay, but the art/graphics. I should have been more clear I guess. Again, it's the graphics I'm talking about here. So then your point is even less impressive. :(
Distortion0 Novice Member Joined: 12/10/05 Posts: 663	11/03/06 3:32:18 PM#44 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by MaeEye why did company A have to be everquest though...i wish we would see at least 3 UO copies. Everquest is almost every mmo out there. I hope Darkfall does make it and is fun to play. my guess is no though :( BTW, Warcraft is 100% copy of Warhammer, in every aspect. I think you worded that wrong. If Warcraft was a 100% copy of Warhammer then it would be good. WC is more like the defective clone of WH.
DrSmaSh Apprentice Member Joined: 12/10/04 Posts: 410 Be yourself	11/03/06 3:54:19 PM#45 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Dammn... I lost my "I'm with stupid" smily. Every time I read your post, I die a little inside...
Archon2021 Novice Member Joined: 10/11/06 Posts: 51	11/03/06 6:21:16 PM#46 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Im sorry but its blatently obvious that you know absoloutely nothing about Warhammer. http://www.warhammer.com, look at the models bud, if you cannot see that warhammer came out before world of warcraft you my firend, are retarted. Im not going to go into detail about it, but warhammer is in it's alpha stage, chaos will be cooler than anything World of grindcraft has to offer. End of discussion. Archon @ Warhammer Alliance
Shaman64 Novice Member Joined: 8/10/06 Posts: 394 I Fight for the Hand, I''ll die for the hand.	11/03/06 6:48:24 PM#47 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I was gonna post something sarcastic and mean, but i think the author of the post already apologized and said admitted he didn't know about the product he was writing about. Alot of that can't be said of other authors of posts like this. Also, I thank anyone who posts comparative screenshots of WAR and DARKFARLL with WoW. The differences between the three can be seen.
newbinator Novice Member Joined: 10/05/04 Posts: 500	11/03/06 8:24:01 PM#48 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) 1. Warhammer Online is definitely not a WOW clone, it takes 10 minutes of researching the game to realize that. 2. Stop sucking off Blizz all day, go DIAF instead... you WOW fanboys make me ill.
Lasraik Novice Member Joined: 5/19/06 Posts: 170	11/04/06 2:13:12 AM#49 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by logangregor Originally posted by aspalmat Gameloading, I fully undestand the gameplay differences between Darkfall and WoW. I was not talking about the gameplay, but the art/graphics. I should have been more clear I guess. Again, it's the graphics I'm talking about here. Your still clueless If you're going to insult someone elses intelligence, please use correct spelling. Thank you. http://www.TheGamersAssociation.com
Linchpin Novice Member Joined: 8/12/03 Posts: 82	11/04/06 7:47:51 AM#50 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I see nothing "cloney" about that. You need to get your facts straight before you go spouting off and show everyone just how much of a blind fanboi you are. Blizzard is the unoriginal company here, who was the one to come out with orcs/humans fantasy etc? blizz or the warhammer series? you guessed it, warhammer. I plan on playing Warhammer and IMO it will be a very good game. Not to mention the pvp will rock anything blizz can pump out. I suppose everything in wow is completely original right? Like the 20 second logout? the banking system? auctioning? water/food? class names? I can count of 30 ability names that have been used in previous games. Want me to keep going? The whole industry is direct rip offs of one another, they steal, improve and resell. That is it.
MaeEye Novice Member Joined: 7/18/05 Posts: 994 Astronomy, art, games, and a cup of coffee.	11/04/06 9:39:09 AM#51 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Warhammer is going to be a better game than WoW. It probably won't beat WoW in the MMORPG battle, but it'll beat it in PvP and depth for sure. RvR for the win. This game is going to be a blast for sure. Just so some of you know. WoW was not the first MMORPG ever. You off by 8 years or so. 1999 - Current UO veteran
Steakpuncher Novice Member Joined: 9/06/04 Posts: 257	11/04/06 10:07:36 AM#52 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Everything nowadays is basically a WoW clone, and almost everything is stolen from WoW. Its a common fact people. What some people may or may not know, is that WoW was actually the original concept, it was made before everything else, but deemed illegal at the time. See what happened was the WoW travelled back in time before the launch and tried to launch the game in 1308, but Jesus intervened and said he had to protect the timeline (this was one of the only idea's blizzard took from the real world and implemented, except they changed jesus to a dragon). After realising they couldn't launch their game, they got really pissed off and sped away in their rocketship (this explains where EvE got their idea's from, it also paved the way for the starwars and startrek franchise's) While speeding away the realised they didnt have enough power to make the time space wormhole they used, so they jettisoned all their leaflets promoting WoW which explains how Blizzard started all the folklore about evles, and orcs etc. The developers took their plea to god himself, who had a quick go on the game, and saw the raptors in there (explains where dinosaurs came from, so god also ripped off WoW) however he decided he game was to ahead of its time and ordered them to open it in 2005, however he pomised that upon it launch he would provide a fanbase of ignorant morons to play the game and blindly defend it no matter what. Now you know what really happened, I think all you WoW haters owe these poor Blizzard fans an apology.
Vegetta Novice Member Joined: 5/09/06 Posts: 435	11/05/06 6:07:34 PM#53 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.)
Thunderblade Novice Member Joined: 6/12/04 Posts: 16 legionofsteel.org	11/05/06 6:13:06 PM#54 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Well, I've played WoW for a while now.. it's getting a bit old at high levels. It's not a bad game I would say, but WAR has more that I'm looking forward to since it appears that you still have options at high levels so you won't get bored. Although, Age of Conan seems to be following it's own direction and hopefully will bring a new 'feel' to MMO's due to it's unique more realtime combat system. Legion of Steel - AoC Guild
ConverseSC Apprentice Member Joined: 7/20/06 Posts: 576	11/05/06 6:47:52 PM#55 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Vegetta SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY I swear, the lack of originality WAR fans demonstrate on these forums makes me weep for what the community will be like in game.
xpowderx Novice Member Joined: 10/09/05 Posts: 3909 Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. Richard Feynman, Nobel-prize-winning physicist	11/05/06 7:19:26 PM#56 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Joliust WAR is clearly a clone, look closely Warcraft WarHammer Warhammer completely cloned the name and just switched craft with hammer. /sarcasm off Ok, enough of thisd jibberish!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! Its time for the kiddies to be SCHOOLED! First, Any MMORPG (Any of them) regardless if sci-fi or fantasy is based off a minature or paper version of a game from the early eighties. Thats any! Second. ALL MMORPGS have a base in either D&D or JRR Tolkien. Any of them! Third. Because I played Warhammer in the early eighties with my orc legion I know Warhammer was out before Blizzard was even a company! You little kids need to stay in school and learn something! Fourth. If you look at the graphics of most MMORPGs youll notice that they are similar to D&D design or JRR Tolkien design! just look at either of the books for the type. Fifth. There really is no such thing as a clone! All game designers for whichever company have the aspects that inspire them. If its a game, book, idea whichever! Im glad I can set you little WOW punks straight. Age does make a difference between talking out your arse(the WOW kiddies) or knowing and talking the facts! Now back to gaming! Success is your proof; courage is your armour; go on, go on, in my strength; & ye shall turn not back for any! — Liber AL III:46
xpowderx Novice Member Joined: 10/09/05 Posts: 3909 Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. Richard Feynman, Nobel-prize-winning physicist	11/05/06 7:23:00 PM#57 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) ohh and for you WOW kiddies, Enjoy this!! [edit] First Edition [edit] Published by Games Workshop Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (main rulebook, hardback, 1986) The Enemy Within (campaign supplement, 1986) Dungeon Rooms and Dungeon Lairs (boxed floorplan set, 1986) Character Pack 1st edition (expanded rules for character generations, 1987) Shadows over Bögenhafen (second part of the Enemy Within campaign, 1987) Death on the Reik (boxed edition, third part of the Enemy Within campaign, 1987) Warhammer City (Middenheim sourcebook, 1987) Power Behind the Throne (fourth part of the Enemy Within campaign, 1988) Death on the Reik (republished as a hardback, 1988) Warhammer Campaign (hardback collection of The Enemy Within and Shadows over Bögenhafen, 1988) Something Rotten in Kislev (fifth part of the Enemy Within Campaign, 1988) Realm of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness (joint WFRP/WFB hardback supplement, 1988) The Restless Dead (collection of scenarios previous published in White Dwarf Magazine, 1989) Warhammer Adventure (collection of the first three parts of the The Enemy Within campaign, 1989) Warhammer City of Chaos (collection of Warhammer City and Power Behind the Throne, 1989) The Empire in Flames (sixth part of the Enemy Within Campaign, 1989) Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (main rulebook republished as a softback with minor corrections, 1989) Realm of Chaos: The Lost and the Damned (joint WFRP/WFB hardback supplement, 1990) Success is your proof; courage is your armour; go on, go on, in my strength; & ye shall turn not back for any! — Liber AL III:46
Steakpuncher Novice Member Joined: 9/06/04 Posts: 257	11/05/06 7:46:36 PM#58 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I think part of this issue stems from the fact that a lot of the WoW players are new to the MMORPG scene and don't understand whats take place before and after WoW existed. My first MMORPG was "Legend of Mir 2" I was an mmorpg newb, this game was awesome, and i never understood how any game could ever beat it. However after a year or so, boredom sank in a bit, and i typed "mmorpg" into google and ended up here, and from here I quickly found Linage2 in beta. To me beta was something that let new players get better faster over normal players, so I joined in, and The scenery, the fact it was 3d and not isometric along with the differen gameplay and abundance of skills could have made me pass out lol. From Lineage2 I passed though the usual stream of half tried half baked games, and then WoW came along. The "awesome" factor between lineage2 and WoW was less astounding because 3D with nice graphics had been done, and so had the large skillsets etc. The "new" classes i hadnt seen in other games were cool, and some of the features appealed to me. Now ive moved on from WoW and there's less "awesome" factor left to experience in games. some of it still gets to you though, like the size of EvE, the idea's of upcomming developers and what not. The issues thats coming up, os the fact the "Truly original idea's" teams are now clouded behind big name developers and publishers who favour their "tried and tested" methods which give them their cash. Its the same way that movies/TV went stale, lots of boring crap on, but people put up with it because its the best. The MMORPG has hit a straight on the mountain, and it needs a decent kickstart and a hard kick in the arse, which shows like "lost" and "24" provided (well here in the UK anyway). Everygame is going to have elements of some other game in it. Most people are smart enough to know WoW developers did base some of their modelling around the original warhammer game, these people also need to be smart enough to realise WAR will probably borrow some elements of WoW seeing as WoW is unfortunately the industry leader with a sucessful platform. From what I heard the game basically plugged the cash drains for Vivendi.
hercules Advanced Member Joined: 4/21/03 Posts: 4633	11/05/06 8:33:05 PM#59 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by aspalmat Funny how we first had EQ clones, and now it's WoW clones. I'm simply amazed when I look at screenshots from Warhammer Online and Darkfall. These are such blatant WoW ripoffs it's almost sickening. I'm almost embarrased FOR these companies. Here is a link to screenshots from Warhammer: Warhammer Screens. Pay special attention to the Dwarf screenshots. Here are the screenshots from Darkfall: Darkfall Screenshots. Again, look at the dwarf screenshots. I'm hard pressed to tell if these are infact new games, or some unannounced expansion for WoW. Especially Warhammer, could they be any more obvious that they are copying WoW. The screenies are practically ripped straight from WoW. Did they hire the same art team, and all the people that worked on WoW to make their game? Take a look at the ram mounts in Darkfall, remind you of the dwarven mounts from WoW. Unbelievable! History lesson 101 WoW is an EQ 1 clone. Warhammer has been around longer then warcraft so if anything Warcraft copied warhammer. TY attend the next course history of mmorpg 102 another day.
AbsoluteDude Novice Member Joined: 11/05/06 Posts: 252 BALLLLLIN	11/05/06 8:37:42 PM#60 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) WaR Was here Way before wow came