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Terranah Elite Member Joined: 7/03/04 Posts: 3073	11/02/06 12:50:49 AM#21 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Thanks for those examples. Laughed when I read the initial posters comment. People, at one time folks would have thought it would be impossible for a computer performing the simple funcion of calculater to be smaller than a wharehouse. What is impossible one day is possible the next, thanks to huge strides forward in technology and software. But there are ALREADY several games that allow you to customize with equipment and play around with avatar creation.
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ghettochilde Novice Member Joined: 11/15/05 Posts: 50	11/02/06 1:51:56 AM#22 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by jswish From what I've been able to learn about this game is that it is a sandbox type of game. While you may max your level, there are still plenty of things to do to help build the community (as in SWG pre-cu). I for one have been dying for a good sandbox to come out since NGE hit in SWG. I play WOW and quite frankly am getting sick to death of kill... loot... repeat type of quests with nothing else to do as a distraction. When I heard that SoH had not only a decent crafting system but also had a diplomat system, I got very excited about playing it. I really don't mind a game that is complicated to become good at and has a time sink as long as there is a reward for all the effort put forth. Even if the reward is a good feeling of accomplishment. I'm not a PvP'er and never will be. That end really doesn't concern me. I suppose if I were, I'd probably be looking forward to Warhammer. I for one can't wait till the realease of this game. Just my $.02 You sound like me and my entire guild :) The sandbox feature is really the one that stands out. I would be happier if SoH was skill-based, and class based systems just annoy me to no end, but as an MMO refugee without a home, I'll take what I can get. Oh, to the OP thanks for the review. Don't let the haters get to ya. I haven't been waiting for this game half as long as most, and even at that I'm getting frustrated waiting for information...just make sure to keep us updated :)
Anageth Novice Member Joined: 3/15/05 Posts: 2214	11/02/06 5:29:10 AM#23 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by hbosman My first MMO was WoW. I enjoyed it alot untill I really got bored about the static world. I tried the trial of EQ2 but when I saw the NPC's standing around I quickly quit the game. Something I really hope that quests will make a difference and change the world a little and NPC do their thing rather than stand/sit at one place. Lets see if Vanguard is really the next-gen MMO. Of course, since the trial = the full game - right? Leave the island of refuge in EQ2, go to Qeynos or Freeport and see for yourself what the NPCs are like. I personally don't think they are static, at all. No longer visiting MMORPG.com.
metalcore Apprentice Member Joined: 9/19/04 Posts: 795	11/02/06 5:50:39 AM#24 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Mrbloodworth I would have enjoyd a little more depth into why you said some of this things you said in your article. Like mabye how many options you DID have, and what was missing, even if it is beta.. Mabye expanded alittle more on why you said you enjoyed the card game. ETC.. It feels and reads like you were holding somthing back. Anyway, good read. Game is still under an NDA so its no surprise they are holding back. Know doubt it had to be approved by Sigil before being published. Now playing: Nothing Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
User Deleted	11/02/06 7:22:13 AM#25 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Stradden This article isn't and wasn't meant to be an in-depth analysis of the game, but rather just a quick article with my initial responses to playing it. It's a First Look Preview. I haven't had enough time to really sit down with the game and do a full-on preview full of details. Once I've put enough hours into the game, we'll run a full preview. I'm still learning a lot of the systems in the game, just like any new player would have to. I tried to give a breif overview of what I've done and experienced so far. I'm sorry if that's not enough. Cheers Jon Wood Jon - i'd be interested to hear what sort of machine the game was running on when you played it. Initial reports suggest that you need one hell of a machine (2 gig of DDR2, nvidia 7950 - sli preferred, high end dual core CPU) to run it properly. anything but a full high end specced machine, will not currently be able to run the game in anything but medium to low settings with lots of additional stuff turned off. So if you say it looks graphically good, then i'd be curious to find out what machine you were playing on.
Cyphorgraph Novice Member Joined: 8/07/06 Posts: 4	11/02/06 8:00:53 AM#26 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) the politician say somthing but nothing at all type of double speak, id also like to know if you still have to trapse after you corpse, an idiotic hold over from eq days, boring annoying and useless or was this issue addressed.
dorobu Novice Member Joined: 8/03/03 Posts: 80 "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell." -Aldous Huxley	11/02/06 11:07:49 AM#27 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) No raid server? No corpse runs? Find a different game to troll because I seriously doubt VG is going to appeal to you at all. -doro
jwshaw88 Novice Member Joined: 5/12/04 Posts: 149	11/02/06 12:21:29 PM#28 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) __________________________________________________________________________________________ Originally posted by ZeGerman1942: Jon - i'd be interested to hear what sort of machine the game was running on when you played it. Initial reports suggest that you need one hell of a machine (2 gig of DDR2, nvidia 7950 - sli preferred, high end dual core CPU) to run it properly. anything but a full high end specced machine, will not currently be able to run the game in anything but medium to low settings with lots of additional stuff turned off. So if you say it looks graphically good, then i'd be curious to find out what machine you were playing on. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ If the game requires that much hardware to run, i seriously doubt Sigil/SOE could make any money of the sale of it since they would alienate all but the highly elite players. Since they don't seem to be whole heartedly targeting that group and most gamers grumble over being forced to upgrade hardware just for one game, i highly doubt that the requirements will be that high, however since graphics settings are a personal choice issue and i personally won't sacrifice performance for eye candy, my ideal vanguard system may be much lower end than the next guys.
User Deleted	11/02/06 12:30:21 PM#29 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) odd, that one picture looks a lot like a hobbit hole from middle earth.... otherwise, interesting preview, i think i will definetly try the game.
reavo Novice Member Joined: 8/04/04 Posts: 2166 Loquendum Ut Vulgus, Sentiendum Ut Sapientes	11/02/06 1:25:17 PM#30 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by hbosman My first MMO was WoW. I enjoyed it alot untill I really got bored about the static world. I tried the trial of EQ2 but when I saw the NPC's standing around I quickly quit the game. Something I really hope that quests will make a difference and change the world a little and NPC do their thing rather than stand/sit at one place. Lets see if Vanguard is really the next-gen MMO. I think people would get tired of that really quick. They wouldn't want to search around for an NPC wondering when he's going to wander back to an area. I understand you're looking for more immersiveness in the world, but roaming NPC's would just turn into a burdensome hunt after a while.
dragonace Novice Member Joined: 4/18/06 Posts: 1201 "This is the Master-Ring, the One Ring to rule them all."	11/02/06 1:59:47 PM#31 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Stradden This article isn't and wasn't meant to be an in-depth analysis of the game, but rather just a quick article with my initial responses to playing it. It's a First Look Preview. I haven't had enough time to really sit down with the game and do a full-on preview full of details. Once I've put enough hours into the game, we'll run a full preview. I'm still learning a lot of the systems in the game, just like any new player would have to. I tried to give a breif overview of what I've done and experienced so far. I'm sorry if that's not enough. Cheers Jon Wood Thanks for clearing that up Jon. At first I was pretty disappointed with the article, then I saw this post by you. I guess I was expecting something closer to the one done by Ten-Ton-Hammer, but I think that reviewer has been playing longer. Looking forward to your follow-up full preview.
greymann Novice Member Joined: 4/04/06 Posts: 775	11/02/06 3:29:22 PM#32 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) How utterly gross. The animal heads on chars is enough to kill anything else they might do well but then those flat textures and ugly little icons. It's sad how only 2-3 devopers in the world make worthy games and only one has made a decent mmo. Somebody give me amnesia so I can go back and enjoy WoW again.
dorobu Novice Member Joined: 8/03/03 Posts: 80 "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell." -Aldous Huxley	11/02/06 9:19:39 PM#33 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by greymann How utterly gross. The animal heads on chars is enough to kill anything else they might do well but then those flat textures and ugly little icons. It's sad how only 2-3 devopers in the world make worthy games and only one has made a decent mmo. Somebody give me amnesia so I can go back and enjoy WoW again. I just had to quote that post because it made me laugh. But back to someone else's comment about upgrading your computer for ONE game. If you really think that next year, Vanguard is going to be the only game you're going to need to upgrade your computer for, you live in a box. Have you tried the new Neverwinter Nights yet? or perhaps GRAW? even Dark Messaiah or Oblivion? Have you seen what UT2k7 is going to require? I'm sorry, but to think that way would be like saying that no one is going to buy a game each following year because the computer requires are going up up up. They go up every generation of games and this is not any different. -doro
User Deleted	11/03/06 4:16:31 AM#34 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by dorobu I just had to quote that post because it made me laugh. But back to someone else's comment about upgrading your computer for ONE game. If you really think that next year, Vanguard is going to be the only game you're going to need to upgrade your computer for, you live in a box. Have you tried the new Neverwinter Nights yet? or perhaps GRAW? even Dark Messaiah or Oblivion? Have you seen what UT2k7 is going to require? I'm sorry, but to think that way would be like saying that no one is going to buy a game each following year because the computer requires are going up up up. They go up every generation of games and this is not any different. I am currently playing Dark Messiah on my machine in the highest graphic settings no problem. With the same setting i would not be able to play Vanguard in medium settings. Yes games will need upgrades and Vanguard is not the only one that will require it, but at the moment you are looking at a 2.000 to 3.000 USD worth of computer in order to play Vanguard in semi decent graphcis and maintain a framerate. and thats a bit rich.
Balisidar Novice Member Joined: 10/19/06 Posts: 166	11/03/06 7:35:20 AM#35 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I am currently playing Dark Messiah on my machine in the highest graphic settings no problem. With the same setting i would not be able to play Vanguard in medium settings. Yes games will need upgrades and Vanguard is not the only one that will require it, but at the moment you are looking at a 2.000 to 3.000 USD worth of computer in order to play Vanguard in semi decent graphcis and maintain a framerate. and thats a bit rich. QFT. If Vanguard indeed goes the same route as EQ2 and requires a top end machine then I think they'll be seriously surprised when no one but the power gamers buy it. I'll be looking into this game and seeing what it offers if there is a free trial. Free trial=good thing. If they do it better than EQ2 did their "Trial of the Isle" then I might be interested enough to stay. However if the game does'nt play well on my computer (2.4 Gig CPU, 1 gig memory, Raytheon 9600, DSL connection)....well, that's what free trials are for right? Never be afraid of choices. More choices are always good things.
User Deleted	11/03/06 7:40:07 AM#36 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Balisidar with your system specs you will probably play in low settings, have to tweak various settings and ini files and you'll get around 20fps ;)
dorobu Novice Member Joined: 8/03/03 Posts: 80 "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell." -Aldous Huxley	11/03/06 9:32:56 AM#37 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by ZeGerman1942 Yes games will need upgrades and Vanguard is not the only one that will require it, but at the moment you are looking at a 2.000 to 3.000 USD worth of computer in order to play Vanguard in semi decent graphcis and maintain a framerate. and thats a bit rich. I am currently playing Dark Messiah on my machine in the highest graphic settings no problem. With the same setting i would not be able to play Vanguard in medium settings. Oh. So then you know what the game is going to take? You've played it? Or perhaps you're just speculating and giving a scarey worst case scenario because that's what's most fun to do about a game you dont like. Give me a break. -doro
User Deleted	11/03/06 9:47:34 AM#38 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) lets say that if i was actually playing the game, then i would not really be allowed to talk about it.
Holyavenger1 Apprentice Member Joined: 1/23/06 Posts: 174 Your mom.	11/03/06 9:59:09 AM#39 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by ZeGerman1942 Balisidar with your system specs you will probably play in low settings, have to tweak various settings and ini files and you'll get around 20fps ;) Most probably, yeah. But 20 fps, for me, in an MMO, is ok. As long as it doesn't drops below that during gameplay. BTW (in reference to another post you did up here), you don't need to turn the graphics all the way up for the game to look good. I've seen screenies taken in native low-rez and let me tell you that while a lot of the effects were off and viewing distance not as far as in other screenies, the game still looked great. I wish I could find the link to those now :( I think they were on FOH's board. That being said, you will still be able to enjoy the game on a lower-end machine and not hurt your eyes doing so. Here are the tentative minimum specs that Brad posted a few weeks ago: That's pretty close to the minimum, although I am not annoucing official specs at this point. Unofficially, a 2.8, 1 gig, and an x800 or x850 (or nvidia equvalent) would be good. Unofficially, a 3.0, 2 gigs, and an x1800 or higher (or nvidia equivalent) plus pci-express and a fast FSB would be the high mark. Again, UNOFFICIAL. We have a lot of optimizing left to do and prices will continue to drop and new cards and machine configs will become available between now and release. Source: Aradune Mithara 08/12/06 Also seen somewhere else that one of the prime requirement for your vid card is to do Shader 2.0, has it has been known to run on older vid cards than the x800 series. Fyrr Deerdan - Capsuleer of all trades
User Deleted	11/03/06 10:08:02 AM#40 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) 20fps standing still. in gameplay that can drop. and i think your definition of what makes a game look good and does not is different (but thats fair enough and not meant as an insult).