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  UnrealSWAT

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10/14/06 2:31:46 PM#21
Can we get a recount on the customer service, a 3 is appaling, I get my questions sorted out (the 2 i have had) within 2-3 mintues, rather then WoWs support line 

I was wondering, did you alter the registry keys or anything when you played the game, what Antialiasing was this reviewed on, I recommend playing the game on the best possible hardware for the kick@$$ experience

UnrealSWAT
  Cymdai

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10/14/06 2:43:05 PM#22
Originally, I ran the game with a PC133 motherboard, with 2 gigs of RAM, and a Geforce MX420 graphics card. It ran, but it wasn't pretty. Weather effects have to be turned off for example, and graphical lag was noticable. [For example, the green mist in the crawler's nest would rape my computer]

Then I upgraded to an ATI 9800 Pro 256mb, and ran the game at much higher resolutions, I think the highest I ran it at was still 1280 x 1024, with 2x Ani-aliasing. The game ran significantly better, weather effects didn't affect performance.

I did not alter registry keys...sorry. I don't know how to do that, unfortunately.

The Customer Support was not based solely on phone service however. I based it off of GM-call response time [Nothing like waiting 9 hours for an in-game problem to be addressed...only to be told they can't help you], billing issues [I STILL have one that hasn't been corrected...5 months later], phone support [the most prompt way to achieve service], email support [ see; useless], and live chat functions [rarely provided anything other than ''I'm sorry, but if you can go to THIS department...maybe they can help you...].

It may seem a bit harsh, but I don't think moderate phone support justifies inferior support from all other aspects. That's why I gave it a 3.

Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...

  JelloB2000

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10/14/06 4:01:25 PM#23


Originally posted by UnrealSWAT
Can we get a recount on the customer service, a 3 is appaling, I get my questions sorted out (the 2 i have had) within 2-3 mintues, rather then WoWs support line

I was wondering, did you alter the registry keys or anything when you played the game, what Antialiasing was this reviewed on, I recommend playing the game on the best possible hardware for the kick@$$ experience
UnrealSWAT



Well what was the issue that you nedeed a GM?
Also I cant help to think of when someone tried to report a gil-seller but ended up being asked by the GM to ban himself (that is, ban the one reporting the gil-seller).

Messing about in registry for a game is ALWAYS a no, one misstake & you need to use registry backup or re-install windows.
The game had average textures & models already when it was released in the west (havent played the expansion areas though) & compared to newer games it doesnt hold up.

  Cymdai

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10/14/06 4:30:34 PM#24
Well, numerous issues for the GM involved repeat botters [Everyone has at least a few on their server, and everyone knows who they are] and I can not think of a single instance where one of them was ''handled'' appropriately.

More importantly came AH issues. There were 2 seperate occasions where I purchased something off the AH, but the item did not appear in my inventory, or when an item was sent and it wouldn't appear in my deilvery box.. When I asked for my gil to be restored, or my item presented, I was greeted with a ''Sorry...we can't do that, and we're not refunding your money either''.

The billing issue which still has yet to be resolved involved being triple billed one month.

A final GM issue can be noted with harassment. A linkshell had been harassing my exp party, and we blacklisted them, and they proceeded to have their LS mates harass us further. When we asked the GM to take some action, all we got was a ''We'll look into it''. Sure enough...nothing happened. Sorry, buy telling me you'll ''look into it'' isn't enough when I can show you my chat logs right then and there. Action, not promises, are what I look for in terms of customer service.

Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...

  bhagamu

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10/15/06 12:08:34 AM#25
Is it not inherently flawed to review an MMO 4 years after its launch? The industry has evolved a lot in 4 years, and it seems disingenuous to give a rating on this MMORPG with 2006 standards.

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  Cymdai

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10/15/06 12:17:12 AM#26
That may be true...but in my opinion, things should be reviewed by the way they are currently, and not neccesarily by when they were created. For example, you couldn't rate UO's graphics in comparison to EQ2's graphics.

However, you wouldn't rate a sports team now by the way they played back in 2002 now, would you¿

I tried to keep in mind it's release date when I wrote it, while not disregarding the fact that there are standards for today as well.

Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...

  Gorukha

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10/15/06 1:03:10 AM#27
  Standards of today matter since this is a review made in the present not 3 years ago. Games age, it's obviously a fact. If they want to compete in the present they have to be compared to current games, and gaming standards.
 

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  UnrealSWAT

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10/15/06 3:06:04 AM#28

Originally posted by Cymdai
Well, numerous issues for the GM involved repeat botters [Everyone has at least a few on their server, and everyone knows who they are] and I can not think of a single instance where one of them was ''handled'' appropriately.

More importantly came AH issues. There were 2 seperate occasions where I purchased something off the AH, but the item did not appear in my delivery box. When I asked for my gil to be restored, or my item presented, I was greeted with a ''Sorry...we can't do that, and we're not refunding your money either''.

The billing issue which still has yet to be resolved involved being triple billed one month.

A final GM issue can be noted with harassment. A linkshell had been harassing my exp party, and we blacklisted them, and they proceeded to have their LS mates harass us further. When we asked the GM to take some action, all we got was a ''We'll look into it''. Sure enough...nothing happened. Sorry, buy telling me you'll ''look into it'' isn't enough when I can show you my chat logs right then and there. Action, not promises, are what I look for in terms of customer service.

When you buy something it goes straight into your inventory, not your delivery box
  Atomic_Skull

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10/15/06 4:24:47 AM#29

Originally posted by Cymdai
Originally, I ran the game with a PC133 motherboard, with 2 gigs of RAM, and a Geforce MX420 graphics card. It ran, but it wasn't pretty. Weather effects have to be turned off for example, and graphical lag was noticable. [For example, the green mist in the crawler's nest would rape my computer]

Then I upgraded to an ATI 9800 Pro 256mb, and ran the game at much higher resolutions, I think the highest I ran it at was still 1280 x 1024, with 2x Ani-aliasing. The game ran significantly better, weather effects didn't affect performance.





  FFXI renders the entire 3D scene to an offscreen buffer (render to texture) rather than directly to the framebuffer. Because of this FSAA has no effect on the game at all other than slowing it down. Multisampling FSAA is simply incompatible with render to texture and any game that uses this (usually it's done because the designers feel the improved effects are worth sacrificing FSAA) will either have graphics errors or simply won't work at all.

 There's a sort of way around this, but first a warning. If you read the following and have no idea what the hell I'm talking about then it's safe to say you shouldn't be doing this anyway so just learn to live without FSAA in FFXI. If you don't know what you are doing you could seriously mess up your windows install.

 You can do the supersampling trick. You edit FFXI's registry values so it renders the 3D graphics at 2x the screen resolution. Your graphics card will then scale the image down to fit the screen. ideally you want 2x the actual screen resolution. (though FFXI is limited to a max rendering resolution of 2048x2048)

  This is what the "background" and "overlay" settings in the game setup are about. "background" = 3D graphics and "overlay" = actual screen resolution (and menus). The config utility only allows 256x256, 512x512, and 1024x1024 but if you edit the registry settings you can set it to anything up to 2048x2048.

 Supersampling FSAA is technicly higher quality than Multisampling FSAA (it anti aliases the entire scene not just polygon edges) but it also a lot slower. Only do this if you have a fast video card.


  Azure6610

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10/15/06 11:18:53 AM#30

i started playing just before the RMT fall, prices droped down to normal, it was nice that i could buy decent amour at a decent price when i hit lv 30 on my rdm, at that point i decided to unlock ninja and use thf/ninja, im now currently lv 45, and am part of a large social linkshell, i have a friend, who is part of a major HNM linkshell, we hardally have time to hang out becuase hes always fighting genbu and the other gods, not AV yet...

this game takes alot of dedication if you want to go far, not so much to have fun, but if you want it all, you've got to play, there are still things that only 3-5 people have done (each server i mean), like getting the final wepon skill "knights of the round", it takes at least a year, and the same with the lu shang fishing rod quest, you have to fish 10,000 moat carp, and after that, you recive a fishing rod (kinda lame huh?). but apparently its worth it, yet it takes about a year also.

monsters the same lv as you arnt not easy, unless you know what you are doing, and it costs money, lots of it. solo isnt really an option on the game unless your going to do a diffacult class like beastmaster, wich can be somewhat rewarding, but partying and making friends is the ture aim for players on this game.

the game will lagg on a very busy day in a dense area, but even then not much.

Lv 45 thf/24nin/31rdm

 

  bhagamu

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10/15/06 1:13:49 PM#31

Originally posted by Cymdai
That may be true...but in my opinion, things should be reviewed by the way they are currently, and not neccesarily by when they were created. For example, you couldn't rate UO's graphics in comparison to EQ2's graphics.

However, you wouldn't rate a sports team now by the way they played back in 2002 now, would you¿

I tried to keep in mind it's release date when I wrote it, while not disregarding the fact that there are standards for today as well.


Well, by this logic, this argument applies: Shouldn't every MMORPG be re-rated every year to keep a more current standard? Are they? DAoC, for example, has an 8.4 rating; surely, according to 2006 standards, that rating should have gone down, right?

I'm just saying, if FFXI is to be compared with 2006 gaming standards, so should every MMO.

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  JelloB2000

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10/15/06 1:33:50 PM#32


Originally posted by bhagamu

Originally posted by Cymdai That may be true...but in my opinion, things should be reviewed by the way they are currently, and not neccesarily by when they were created. For example, you couldn't rate UO's graphics in comparison to EQ2's graphics.However, you wouldn't rate a sports team now by the way they played back in 2002 now, would you¿I tried to keep in mind it's release date when I wrote it, while not disregarding the fact that there are standards for today as well.



Well, by this logic, this argument applies: Shouldn't every MMORPG be re-rated every year to keep a more current standard? Are they? DAoC, for example, has an 8.4 rating; surely, according to 2006 standards, that rating should have gone down, right? I'm just saying, if FFXI is to be compared with 2006 gaming standards, so should every MMO.


From the EVE-re-review: mmorpg.com will re-review old mmorpg:s. Cant remmember if they set any time-limit though.

  Cymdai

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10/15/06 2:36:49 PM#33
UnrealSWAT, my mistake, human error. I wrote what I meant to put down. AH =/= Sending items, sorry about that.

Also, MMORPG.com has started doing re-reviews on all the games. It just takes awhile for all of them to be aired. Just give it some time.

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  Atomic_Skull

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10/15/06 6:25:34 PM#34

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by bountydog
word of warning to any body that wants to try this game. its a good year and a half to 2 years of grinding to lvl up your first 2 jobs. also make sure to look up the excepted job combos our you will never get a group. people are very very picky in this game and most of them would rather sit around and wait then go out with a job combo they think sucks.

Amen to that. I was gonna touch on that in my response (above), but figured it was negative enough :-).

Part of the rigidity and "script-like" treadmill the players have introduced is exactly what bountydog says. There are a total of 300 or so possible job combinations in FFXI. Only a relative handful are "accepted".. or, rather, "demanded".

In the same vein as trying different places to hunt and gain xp, don't dare try any job combination not on that "approved" list, you know.. to experiment, or perhaps get something more out of the game than what everyone else does and expects you to do. You will be called  "noob", you will be berated and lectured and shunned from parties and told you don't know how to play. It happens all the tme.

You might notice that 90% of my disappointment with FFXI is related to the player-base, not the game itself. With a different, less egocentric player mentality pervading it, FFXI would be a drastically different experience, and likely still the most amazing MMO I'd ever played.






  There is a reason people won't invite you if you are a NIN/THF, WAR/RNG or MNK/WHM. It is because certain job combinations work and others are simply useless.


  SeraphexFFXI

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10/15/06 9:45:16 PM#35

Hey those pics on page 3 are my pics!!!!!!

The Hume Thief and hume ninja are meeeeee!

Want proof, here.

http://www.theforcels.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1027

Name is Seraphex on the alexander server, i think MMORPG.com owes me some gil for using my pics

  Anofalye

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10/16/06 9:26:24 AM#36

Originally posted by Zyrs 


Some things I should point out:

1.  Your account is not deleted after 3 months.  Your character data is saved for a year and can be reactivated for the entire year.  This was changed during the "Return to VanaDiel" campaign.



My account was deleted and I was never even able to TRY the game.  The fact they change it doesn't correct the situation for players, like me, that just waste $70 and never where able to even play.

 

Considering it is a raid-end-game, it just save me time, still I waste $70 and all I saw was the character creation, never even able to try the game...(my computer was to weak back then and when I buy a new computer, my account was completely deleted).

 

Square Enix may change and improve, they still wrong me in the past, and I am a vindicative person on such a level.  I am glad to hear they no longer do that, but it doesn't change anything about how it WAS when I grant them some interest.

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  Antioche

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10/17/06 6:37:17 PM#37
Good review, except that I think you gave it too high of a score. I thought this game was pathetic. It introduced nothing new really to the genre, and even did some things that most mmo's don't do, such as level loss on death. I don't know if they changed that, but last I played it was still something that was very frustrating. Also, it's was a very unfriendly game for soloers.

The other issues you mentioned I didn't know about, but it sounds like this game is even worse than I had thought. If Square Enix is too lazy, or stupid to prevent players from using 3rd part apps to cheat in their game then they deserve to lose every player they have. Games like Dark Age of Camelot do a great job, mostly, of preventing such blatant issues. Aside from the occasional radar user, or people who use macro programs to level up crafting (which I personally have noting against because crafting in DAoC is a nightmare, although Mythic has finally acknowledged this and is going to be changing a lot of things) you really don't see this kind of exploiting. When it does happen the community tends to jump on it, and let Mythic know that it needs to be fixed asap. Lucky for us Mythic doesn't have their heads up their butts, most of the time, but it sounds to me like SE does. I really love the Final Fantasy series, but FFXI is a huge disappointment imo.

It is pathos we lack, and this lack of pathos makes the worlds we explore quite stale.

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  ifandbut

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10/18/06 10:36:59 AM#38

Originally posted by Jerch
 It is not a game for end-gamers. It is a game for adventurers.
Well said. Mind if I use that for my Final Fantasy Sigs?

Anyways, one of the best (read: fair) reviews of FFXI I have seen in a long time.
  Handofgod

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10/18/06 10:55:24 AM#39
I don't know if this was already said in a comment as it's late here and I  just skimmed the comments:

About the part where you mention the game deleting inactive accounts after 3 months, that's not always the case.  I know they had a Return to Vana'diel campaign a while back that allowed old players to reactivate long gone characters but I don't know if that's still active anymore.  However, I thought I quit earlier this year and left the game for 7 months.  I just returned last month to find that all my characters were right where I left them.  Whether this has to do with the above mentioned campaign, a plus of being on a slightly less-populated server, or the fact that I've been a subsciber for 3 years, I have no idea.  Some accounts are still there after 3 months, some aren't.  I don't know why.

Anyhow, I enjoyed your review of the MMORPG I love to hate and hate to love but can't stop playing no matter how hard I try.

Good job.
  Zhange

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10/23/06 11:28:01 PM#40
"Chinamen farmers" I think the writer sholuld be a little moe sensitive in his choice of words, granted that most gold farmers in many mmo's are based in China, I do not believe that calling these people "Chinamen" is  acceptable. I believe that "Chinese farmers" would be a much more acceptable term.
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