I figured hey, I want PvP and I am totally bored of pretty much everything out. I figure why not try out Monster play on LotR. I am playing on vista, I played the game with max settings until I hit level 10 and went into monster play. When 60 people where on the screen, damn the game bogged down fast. SO, after setting everything to super low, i still got some skipping, im sure this is fixable. Bar this problem, here is my take on Monster Play.
To be honest I was pretty excited about the idea of being a monster. So right of the bat I ignored the Orc choices due to them feeling to humanoid. I went straight for the warg and later tried out the spider. Just so ya know there are, orc reaver, orc black arrow, orc warleader, spider, and warg.
As I walk around in my new wolf body, I am digging it. I like the warg look and I love the inhuman feel. This is until I realize a wolf runs the same speed as everyone else. Hmm. I get passed that. Then I realize that I have bags and can use potions. Uhh. Ok, i ignore that to. I figure out the few abilities that I begin with pretty fast, set up my UI, and head outside right into.... 30+ freeps attacking Gram. Im like ok, lets do this. I stealth. I sneak around the back and find a Loremaster pretty far behind the group all by himself. I commence the gankage. He must be afk, man this aint fun. He is at half health. He finally moves and CC's me. He takes his time, he summons some pets, he drinks some potions, he reads a book, he masturbates... All this time and I am still in that 1 CC. Then he pretty much owns me easily.
Ok, so I am thinking I need to get some rank and destiny points. I gotta upgrade I guess or I wont be able to kill anyone. So I figure I will do some quests, then I realize what Turbine has done, it hits me. This aspect of the game is about creeps doing quests while the freeps gank you. Heh. Ok, so I wont do quests, I figure the only way to get some rank is to get in a raid and leech. This gets boring real fast as a warg. I have no ranged abilities so I try to stealth around and get a couple quick hits and run. This works for a bit til one person lands a stun and im blinked dead.
Hmm, so this aint going so well. So I figure I will try to get in a small group and go gank some solo targets. Sweet, we find one and get the kill, there are 9 of us vs 1 guy. It takes us a couple minutes to kill him. To be fair we were all green, but 9 rank 0 vs 1 guy, damn. Laff. By this time I am like, nevermind. They seriously do not want creeps to have a chance.
So in conclusion, I love the idea of roleplaying a monster. I love the concept of being the bad guy. I just wish companies like turbine would use some logic when they try and mold these concepts into a fun and interactive game.
Not trying to sound like a prick, why should a Rank 0 creep, even if its 9 of you, be able to kill a Level 50 player that has taken more time to get to that point than a L10 player?
Wed Feb 20 2008 1:02AMWell, I am of the opinion that - they should have let you level up as a monster from the getgo... I played the beta and we put a ton of ideas to make it more dynamic. Monsters fall behind the better the gear the player gets and cannot keep up... You group as a monster and swarm down the players or you get killed... Intentionally setup in good guy favor by a ton... Badly done imo...
I loved the idea of playing as a monster but it is cheaply and poorly implemented imo.
Wed Feb 20 2008 2:30AMCmon guys, Turbine only got PvP right once .... and that was a pure fluke (Asheron's Call - Darktide). Strangely enough they have completely distanced themselves from implementing anything that is remotely similar to anything that can be found in this, still shining example of how player vs player can really work.
Wed Feb 20 2008 6:53AMABRaquel wrote:
Not trying to sound like a prick, why should a Rank 0 creep, even if its 9 of you, be able to kill a Level 50 player that has taken more time to get to that point than a L10 player?
Time invested = fun to be had? I've never been a fan of that equation. Oh well. Narrow-mindedness ftl.
It could have been a new style of play for the freeps, increasing the level of challenge that the game otherwise does not have (AI is always stupid compared to a human opponent). Instead, from start to finish, it is an unbalanced mess that takes away the challenge and possibility of excitement for both sides. Of course, some people resent a challenge and strive for big meaningless numbers that were gained by killing a stupid, albeit sometimes tough, opponent (we'll call these people Raiders).
I suggest t0nyd stick with Guild Wars for now and look forward to AoC and WAR for the possible PvP fix that he desires. Obviously, Turbine has not taken PvP seriously. Although, you have to admit that playing such a weak character against an overpowered foe is quite the challenge. If you're a masochist.
- LC
Wed Feb 20 2008 12:34PMthis game is horrable lol
Wed Feb 20 2008 2:10PMpvpers really should stay away from LOTRO. They didnt even try to get our population. I respect Turbine for sticking to their vision and their niche. But yeah, I knew no way monster play could give us a pvp fix
just go buy Savage 2. I have vista, etc it seems to play fine. Fun Game. much better for PVP then LOTRO anyday I'm sure
Wed Feb 20 2008 11:04PMYea, i might as well pick up savage 2. I played the trial version a bit and enjoyed it.
Thu Feb 21 2008 7:06AMMMORPG.com writes:
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