This week’s Community Spotlight focuses on the thread “So why do many MMORPG gamers hate so many new MMORPG games?” by Qazz. Qazz appears frustrated by MMO gamers who seem to hate every new MMO that is announced or is coming out. Are we all just grumpy grognards or are the new crop of games, well, crap?
Qazz asserts that the highly vocal detractors possibly just don’t like MMOs at all, offering a humorous scenario to illustrate his position:
“I've seen many posts by people who say they aren't playing any MMORPG's right now because "there aren't any good games". Should people who hate on MMO's all day, but can't even say they are even playing one, just admit they don't like MMO's?
Here is an interview from the HappyVille Pie Competition to illustrate my thoughts.
Mayor Morpg: "Welcome to the HappyVille Pie Competition. Mr. Fussy McCritik will be judging today. Well Fussy...talk to me about your thoughts on the competition?"
Fussy McCritik: "All of the pies suck. They make me want to puke. They're all made so people will buy them. I can't stand any pie that is made today."
Mayor Morpg: "Well, to me it sounds like you don't like pie...do you think you really should be judging a pie contest?"
Fussy McCritik: "STFU, I know all about pies. I'm just waiting for somebody to make a good one."
Mayor Morpg: "Fussy, if there isn't a single pie that you like, then you just don't like pies. Just admit it."
Fussy McCritik: "You don't get it do you? Go back to your World of Walnut pie. I'm done with this interview."”
TrunksZ simply feels that “haters gonna hate”:
“Haters gonna hate, I know is a cliche but is true, some people just hate out of pure hate, for example WoW, we all now that theres a big part of this site community that hates WoW and if you think otherwise you are probably going to get trolled, some people hate WoW for their own personal reasons, some others just hate it because others hate it and don't have a personal opinion about it and some others hate it because thats what they do, AKA Trolls.”
Uquipo (along with several others) feel that the hate is due to the nostalgia many MMO gamers feel for their first MMO and their desire for new MMOs to recreate that:
“They fell in love with their first MMO, whether it was UO, EQ1, AC, SWG whatever.
They are trying to recapture that first blush experience. This is impossible because they are suffering from nostalgia and no game can live up to a perfect mental image.
So they sit in the forum and gripe.”
Kyleran disagrees that the hate simply stems from nostalgia:
“You continue to post this "nostalgia" theory and fail to acknowledge that today's MMO's are designed quite a bit differently from their early forebearers and for those who preferred the "old style" today's games are found wanting in terms of gameplay and features.
DAOC was my 2nd MMO and I've been looking for a replacement for quite some time. Nothing has come even remotely close, not even WAR. (the influence of WOW's success is much too strong for Dev's to ignore these days)
That said, I did find EVE many years later, and while it is quite different from DAOC, its still manages to be fun because of its unique implemenation of game play.
What isn't fun is that most other games follow the model started by EQ which reached its peak in WOW and has been poorly copied since then. Those games (outside of WOW) I dislike. (hate is too strong a word)”
Kuatosune takes the opposite argument of nostalgia, asserting that new MMOs are too much alike instead:
“The biggest reason people hate on MMOs is that going from one to another feels the same. It might have a shiny new wrapper on the outside but the core is exactly the same as the one you had left the new game for. So when you fight through the same kind of content with similar quest lines and grind it's very easy to start getting grumpy about our choices out there. As a community we've had so many great hopes on games only to have them crushed time and time again. At this point we're all waiting for the game that will give us our golden carrot so that we'll be happy. So we all get our hopes up only to have them crushed and the cycle continues.
I believe that the market has become over saturated with mediocre product meant to be cash cows for their producers. Our only hope is that the cows wither up and die so that developers might innovate a bit more.”
Me? I don’t really think there is a straight answer to this. Given the time and emotional investment (some people can play a single MMO for years on end) we all look for different things from these games, and our tastes, preferences, etc. are so diverse that I think it all just gets jumbled together when a new game is announced. The game may hit the mark for a subset of people, but not appeal at all (or outright offend) many other groups of people for any number of different reasons. Collectively, the latter group is larger and more vocal and so it would appear we just hate everything, but I really don’t think that’s the case.
On the other hand, it is true that many MMO games that have come out or are coming out are simply derivative clones and there is certainly a good deal of stagnation in the genre. I feel many MMO gamers are united in that feeling and so that can breed a lot of negativity when a game is announced that doesn’t quite offer enough new, this is especially true if the game is being developed with a licensed IP.
Why do you think there’s so much hate in the MMO genre? Let us know in the comments below!