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Hudson's Hideout

Ramblings of a MMO player and Miniature wargamer

Author: pvthudson01

Warhammer end game IS there, console rants

Posted by pvthudson01 Tuesday August 12 2008 at 8:28AM
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Today is a good day to rant I think, simply because I am crabby and I don’t have any plans tonight and this makes Hudson angry.

The first thing I want to talk about is Tobold’s latest post on his blog. While he is right about many of the things he is saying, I want to make it perfectly clear that there are people beta testing high end stuff. That is all I will say. People need to remember that. The older testers are seeing the high end content and working through it so YES it is there. While Tobold is not doing this, other people that are spouting off about WAR compared to WoW’s end game need to stop. I mean of course WAR wont have 4 years of end game content when it releases, but it has a huge amount right now and you better believe it is in better shape than most the MMO’s we have seen launch since probably Lord of the Rings. Ok enough of that.

Next I want to talk about the XBOX 360 and why people like shooters on this damn console. Seriously, who in their right mind would prefer a right thumbstick and left thumbstick over a mouse and keyboard? How anyone plays like that simply boggles my mind. Not only do these punks play like that, they KICK MY ASS. This is mainly the reason I stay off of XBOX Live and avoid shooters on the console. You put me behind TF2 or CoD 4 on the PC and I will end you, but on the console I just cannot grasp the controls. The thumbstick is not precise enough. CoD4 I can tolerate because it does have a nice “kind of” auto aim system with the left trigger and a zoom in. Other games however like Perfect Dark Zero and Bad Company I spray bullets all over and hit everything BUT my target. Yes I have tried to adjust the speed of the thumbstick and all that garbage, but some games don’t even feature that. I figure in order to get good at these games I will have to UNlearn my old habits and completely get this thumbstick thing down after years of keyboard and mouse indoctrination. Folks, I just don't have time for that. After about the 18th time I take a head shot from some douche bag sitting on the roof of a barn half way across the map I am out.

Other than shooters I spent most the week playing Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Lost Odyssey (holy crap the Japanese RPG'ers sure like their cut scenes and dialogue), and Dead Rising. The XBOX is getting a total pounding lately and it is earning it's money. I am glad for that, for a while there I almost got rid of it. And nope, I still have NOT finished Gears of War 1.

So now last week I also realized that I should never ever ever buy stealth games. PC or console. I stink at them and have no patience to play them. I do not want to kill my enemies with great secrecy and avoid detection. I want to blow the largest hole in them I can then spin around and toss grenades everywhere to kill everyone that noticed it. Hence I have traded in Assassin’s Creed and gotten some other game, it was just not for me. Also it was a little drab. I also sold Splinter Cell Chaos Theory on EBAY a while back. The stealth games are not up my alley. The only one I was able to handle was Hitman, because you did have the option to go balls out if you wanted to. And he was bald, which was kind of cool. Just don’t watch the movie, it is terrible.

BlackWatch writes:


Console shooters = clown shoes.  I was wicked @ Quake III when it launched.  I dominated LAN parties and was very good online.  I remember picking up Quake III for PS/PS2... I played it for all of 5 minutes.  It sucked.  It was a bad enough experience that it reallly p#ssed me off... like, put on my favorite pair of golf shoes and walk through a room full of puppies type of p#ssed off.  Controls were foreign and gimped, and trying to aim... it was worse than trying to land your F-14 after your missions in Top Gun (for NES). 

As for WAR... it's going to be just fine.  As long as it doesn't launch with a bunch of bugs and performance issues, then I think that's a huge step in the right direction.  A solid, working, and 'on target' launch... a nice change of pace from what we saw from Vanguard or AoC. 

Tue Aug 12 2008 8:54AM Report
SSJGotenx268 writes:

I will somewhat agree with the shooters portion of this rant. i play Halo 3 and CoD4. I think im one of the better players for consle systems, but computer is better by far. I played CS:S and Halo2 for PC and I obliterate people. It's much easier to play on PC than consle, but for some reason I keep going back to consle. I guess it's just up to peoples opinions in this case.

Tue Aug 12 2008 8:56AM Report
HumbleHobo writes: WAR is going to be perfectly fine. And unlike AoC's pathetic attempt, I've heard that WAR delivers on it's promises from every beta tester I've talked to. 1. WAR didn't promise the moon. 2. They bring at least three GOOD ideas to the table that stand apart from the mainstream. 3. They offer a WoW-quality game, but PvP and RvR focused. WAR has nothing to fear. Unless the launch is horriffic, I'm guessing they can hit that 1 million subscriber "glass ceiling" that no game seems to be able to penetrate. Tue Aug 12 2008 9:37AM Report
Kagutsuchi47 writes:

I have heard from multiple testers that the game is rubbish. Two of them I know personally and they said it isn't entertaining and is a bore. I play AoC and don't think it was a total flop but I do agree with the broken promises rant. Now on to the beta testing, AoC seem to be having the same type of beta testing stuff going on here. AoC at least in beta did what they were asked and fullfilled they're promises. It was a real annoying experience to see AoC go back to where it was in its Beta stages because the Devs didn't keep what we had fixed in the game. Im sure WAR will have the same problems. WoW did at its launch, every patch broke something else. Classes were OP, its nature. So I won't be amazed if WAR has the same problems and people start crying about that. All I will says is, "Sad impatient children go back to WoW since its so perfect AFTER 3 DAMN YEARS." I don't think WoW is perfect the in anyway shape of form, AoC is a trash heap currently but it will get better so i think Im gonna stick it out. WAR I would get if it was the 40k universe I don't like the old Warhammer board game that much, though 40k I played religiously. I think the game that is being the underdog here is SGW (Stargate Worlds). Then after that we will be hearing and seeing the new KOTOR/Star Wars MMO.

Tue Aug 12 2008 10:41AM Report
Psymyn writes:

Is it just me, or when you meet somone and they go pfffff... "i just beat the new Black Ops on ULTRA MEGA HARD MODE the second day i got it with my new XBOX 860". First you laugh not cuz he just said Xbox 860, but because he also just thought he was the coolest kid in town, cuz  he's such a hardcore gamer! I mean WTF, Its one of those, smile cheesely, turn the head, and crack a snicker kind of.... "was this kid serious?" laughs.

 I mean i my self have been playing FPS's since Doom and Doom 2, and on to quake ,and i can truly thank my dad for that! But from that moment on, the competition has heated every year the next quake or UT came out, and it gets more intense with every new FPS that hits my PC. Where does this guy get off talking like that...  I just cant wait to see more windows live shooters so we can all have our laugh at that kid that thought he oWnZ n003Z on his new XboX 860, when him and his L33T team speakers got schooled  100- 0...


Tue Aug 12 2008 11:23AM Report
Cotillion99 writes:

I personally prefer shooters on consoles.  I feel like shooters on the computer are too easy.  (especially for sniping.)  In consoles i feel like sniping especially is harder and since i prefer to be closer rather than farther when i splatter someones brains on the wall, that works for me just fine.

Tue Aug 12 2008 2:26PM Report
Sanctus17 writes:

 I only play shooters because when I stop, it feels so good!   I can only stay awake for about an hour when playing a shooter on any platform.  Some shooters are mildly entertaining, but quickly become boring.  Little kids love shooters and they are in every online shooting game on the 360.  I'm not hatin' or anything.  If you like shooters, great!  Personally, I'd rather read a book, but that's just me.

Mon Sep 15 2008 2:35PM Report writes:
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