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Author: Teala

Net Neutrality - The Internet as you know it is coming to an end.

Posted by Teala Thursday August 5 2010 at 9:29AM
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This is going to be one of my shortest blogs to date.  I am a little pissed right now.   Google said that they were for Net Neutrality...now they say they are not...why?  Because they made a backdoor deal with Verizon that would allow them to pay more to Verizon for their Internet content to get to their users faster by buying up bandwidth.   I told you in my Net Neutrality piece that if we lost it(Net Neutrality) this is what would happen.    It is happening just as I(and many others) said it would and soon you'll have to pay more for the Internet and more for the content you wish to see, because the telcom companies are going to be putting restrictions on their bandwidth and if a company cannot pay for the bandwidth - to bad - so sad.  Read the article here.

Google makes deal with Verizon  <<  clicky

Say goodbye to some of your favorite websites.  Say goodbye to some of your favorite MMORPG's.   If the FCC doesn't grow a pair soon and shut this kind of corporate control down the Internet as you and I know it will no longer exist.  It will be slower and more restrictive than ever before.

EDIT:  Another Article <<<< clicky

Googles stance on the Internet and Net Neutrality from 2006: "Today the Internet is an information highway where anybody - no matter how large or small, how traditional or unconventional - has equal access. But the phone and cable monopolies, who control almost all Internet access, want the power to choose who gets access to high-speed lanes and whose content gets seen first and fastest. They want to build a two-tiered system and block the on-ramps for those who can't pay."

That was then...back in 2006.   They have done a 180 and I for one will no longer support Google.   I, from this day forward will boycott all Google products and services, and urge as many others as I can to do the same.  If you are using a Google Tool Bar - please uninstall and in the questionaire that follows when they ask why you are uninstalling it - tell them you will no longer support a company that would help kill Net Neutrality.
 

Also... 

Here is an article on then president-elect Obama stood on Net Neutrality, and how he vowed to have laws passed to protect it - can we say another broken promise and total fail. 

Article of President Obama and Net Neutrality <<<  clicky

I am telling you.  If the US government doesn't stop this from occurring...you, I, and everyone else is going to be paying a lot more, and get less, and the Internet as we know it will be no more.

 

UPDATE!  FCC Abandons Efforts for Net Neutrality  <<< clicky

Evasia writes:

This was already in works few years back but most people sleep pay no attention and now its starting to actually happen.

I think in beginning yes it will become more expensive and even some will dissapear but i think it will not succeed.

This will affect so many people who use internet i doub they will destroy millions of users becouse some want more money for bandwith people are not fools overall.

But on other hand its all about power a few will have that and mass will bite the dust again HISTORY repeats it self.

Maybe a alternative internet will rise who knows.

I for one already be prepared to quit internet totally im not gonne pay alot more.

Then i will go without internet as i did 20years ago hehe np hehe.

Thu Aug 05 2010 10:18AM Report
Teala writes:

The one thing we can do right now that will have the biggest impact.  Boycott Google today and forever until they reverse this.   Stop using all Google products: Google Search, Gmail, YouTube, uninstall their tool bar if you use it...just stop today.   This will send a clear message that we the consumers made them who they are and we can unmake them just as fast.

Thu Aug 05 2010 10:41AM Report
Aericyn writes:
I totally agree with you Teala. I made a conscious decision to quit Google.com back in 2007. I still end up on google maps through other sites and youtube. But I never intentionally go to google.com, I don’t use gmail or their other “services”. Google has annoyed me for several years now – Apple is starting to catch up as an annoying technology business too.
 
Net neutrality is fairly new to me. I read an article awhile back and was scared of what I discovered. It’s damn frustrating, where do I get Internet if companies like Comcast and Verizon both pull the same crap? Can’t go back to Netzero like the 90s.
 
It’s not like the Internet is a drug so much as it is a lifestyle now.
Thu Aug 05 2010 11:08AM Report
Teala writes:

Aericym, good for you.  Just say no to "Google" is my new motto.  I have all ready deleted my Google account and will no longer make use of any of their services or tool.  There are others out there that I will gladly use for now if Google continues to help destroy Net Neutrality.

Thu Aug 05 2010 11:26AM Report
spookydom writes:

I was not aware of this going on either until i checked Tealas earlyer blog entry.  Interesting times ahead though by the looks of things. I think Zack de la Rocha said it best when he said

"We need a movement with a quickness
You are the witness of change
And to counteract
We gotta take the power back"

Thu Aug 05 2010 11:28AM Report
Teala writes:

Sppokydom, Google exist because we made them who they are - without us they are nothing.  You can help.   Just stop using all Google services today!  Seriously, if you use their toolbar uninstall it.  It is easy to do and then let them know why.  If you have a Google account - delete it - just delete it.   They will get the message when thousands of people stop using their services.

Thu Aug 05 2010 11:32AM Report
spookydom writes:

Way ahead of you T:)

Thu Aug 05 2010 11:35AM Report
weslubow writes:

I have a better fix Teala. We shall go to our congressmen and women. Tell them we want a new powerful mandate for the FCC to regulate the internet. Not the providers deciding how to divide up the profits. The business people have already shown us they cannot be trusted.

Thu Aug 05 2010 3:52PM Report
Varthanos1 writes: I am someone who has no problem paying for my entertainment. In a world where some guy with barely a high school education makes millions bouncing a ball around on a court entertaining people, I have no problems seeing more of the world cash moving in to IT companies. Net neutrality? For what? I may not fully understand the implications quite yet but I have no problems dropping these less then stallar F2P games and their penny pinching audience in the gutter where they slithered out of. Thu Aug 05 2010 4:27PM Report
Zyllos writes: You know, I am all up for net neutrality. But telling our government to stop them is also an issue. Really, we, the people, need to do something about it. Also, there is a legitimate use of blocking paths is security. Its a fine line between acting hastely but understanding that your being trampled on because you do not make the money another does. I think we need to reintroduce a word that our founding fathers used but we seem to be lacking today, compromise. Thu Aug 05 2010 4:41PM Report
KilorTheMeek writes:

Wow... never thought I'd say this... but it looks like I have found a political issue on which I agree with Nancy Pelosi!  

Holy crap I'm a stinkin' liberal!  AAAAHHHH!!!! :-D

All kidding aside, there is no right answer here.  This situation is a Catch 22, wrapped up in a Sophie's Choice.  If we allow the FCC sweeping control over the Internet, who's to say they won't ban certain Internet functions we now take for granted?   How do we know regulation would not end Net Neutrality as well? 

Thu Aug 05 2010 5:36PM Report
MMOExposed writes:

@Teala

how do we improve other search engines to become as good as Google?

Not trolling, just asking a simple question. Because if we boycott Google, we,like a Wiki, sould be able to improve another search engine, and email service. I was thinking about MSN and Bling. But how can we improve their service? How do we the people improve a search engine?

 

Also a question. Whats Google's involment with this scandle. in Internet terms, what does Google own that effects the net? just wondering.

 

With the lost of "Net Neutral" does that mean the gov can now block Porn and stuff like that?

Why would they block a MMORPG game? explain this to me better please

Thu Aug 05 2010 6:06PM Report
Karesh writes:

I have a facebook group on the subject called "boycott google!! [read description]. If anyone else has a FB account it would help if they joined the group and sent invites to all their friends. I figure it's a good way to get the information about what they're doing out. (assuming enough people join)

Thu Aug 05 2010 6:45PM Report
Sheista writes:

Google and Verizon have both come out and addressed the rumors and said they are false.  

Thu Aug 05 2010 6:54PM Report
Teala writes:

Sorry Sheista - they have not.  They are still in talks.   Other news sources are now confirming what NYT's reported earlier.  

Verizon and Google expect to unveil their proposal within days and hope it will provide a framework for net neutrality legislation in Congress, said several people briefed on the negotiations between the companies. They spoke on condition of anonymity because the agreement is still not final.

But according to one person close to the FCC talks, the deal also undermined the discussions taking place at the FCC and progress that had been made toward an industry-wide compromise. This person said FCC officials fear that the proposal from Google and Verizon would not do enough to prevent phone and cable companies from using their control over broadband connections to become online gatekeepers.

Thu Aug 05 2010 7:45PM Report
Teala writes:

MMOExposed - no it means that the people that provide you your Internet service can dictate what can be transmitted over their lines.   That also means they can start charging companies like Blizzard extra fees so that their game WoW will still come to you at the speed you are use to geting it...of course if this happens...that means less profit for Blizzard and that means in order to gain back that loss you might see an increase in the cost to play WoW.   This goes for all P2P games and even f2P games.  

Some of you really do not understand the severity of this.   In the coming months you will though.   When you try to get to your favorite website and you find out it has slowed to a crawl or you cannot log onto it because your Internet provider has allocated bandwidth to other companies that have paid for it and your favorite website hasn't.  Companies like Google and Facebook and such that have billions of dollars will be in control and their content will flow freely...while other websites will be stifled or cut-off.

Thu Aug 05 2010 7:52PM Report
Nifa writes:

In an interesting coincidence, since this fubar hit the news, my gmail has slowed to a crawl and been like that all day and evening.  But only my gmail (and other Google sites, as well as my Verizon account page) have been acting like this today - all other sites are as speedy as ever.

Could be an ironic coincidence, or it could be that my ISP is dictating what can and can't be transmitted over their lines...

Thu Aug 05 2010 11:19PM Report
erictlewis writes:

Well I hate verizon with a passion. I cancled my account with them 3 yeas back and with with AT&T.  The main reason was there phones are junk.  However I dont use a phone that is internet capable.  Try explaing that to a sales rep. I use my phone for calls only.  It is getting harder all the time to find just a phone.

Now google what can i say, i find yahoo search is doing a better job nowdays.

Fri Aug 06 2010 4:40AM Report
indiramourn writes:

Teala, I'm also a Google avoider.  They are just an over-blow advertising firm with a search engine--there are plenty of other great search engines to choose from--and too much money.  And this power grab and the Net Neutrality thing...sigh.  Indeed, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. :(

Fri Aug 06 2010 4:24PM Report
Scratch85 writes:

Another take on the same story: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20012703-260.html

Sat Aug 07 2010 9:57AM Report
thanto writes:

The Bloomberg Report

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-04/google-verizon-are-said-to-have-reached-deal-on-how-to-handle-web-traffic.html

States the following:

"The compromise as described would restrict Verizon from selectively slowing Internet content that travels over its wires, but wouldn’t apply such limits to Internet use on mobile phones, according to the people, who spoke yesterday and asked not to be identified before an announcement."

 

Meaning, Verizon has agreed on net neutrality for standard use, but not for mobiles (yet).  Negotiations are ongoing.

 

I don't know about you, but that sounds like a good thing to me.

Sat Aug 07 2010 1:24PM Report
Nifa writes:

Teala:

Article just posted by Computer World after an announcement by Google and Verizon:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9180464/Google_Verizon_make_Net_neutrality_proposal?taxonomyId=70

 

Summarized:

Google  and Verizon Communications have released a proposal that suggests the U.S. Federal Communications Commission should enforce network neutrality rules and fine broadband providers up to $2 million for violations.

Officials from the two companies, in an announcement today, said they hope to move the often-contentious Net neutrality debate ahead with the recommendations. Under the proposal, broadband providers could not block or degrade Web traffic, although they could provide "differentiated online" services apart from the public Internet.

The announcement comes after days of rumors and news reports that the two companies had reached an agreement on how Verizon would handle Google's traffic. But the proposal is a set of recommendations to U.S. policymakers and broadband providers, and the proposal would not allow for any prioritization of Google's traffic on the public Internet, said Ivan Seidenberg, Verizon's chairman and CEO.

Mon Aug 09 2010 1:56PM Report
Teala writes:

Evey major publication that deals with Internet issues says that what Verizon and Google have proposed would be a two-tiered Internet and not Net Neutrality.  Because their version of Net Neutrility is hidden in the reality of it.   Those that can pay get more bandwidth, those that can't get dropped to the other tier that is slower and more congested.   Go read Wired's article or CNet's.  They both say this is erroneous means of Google and Verizon to set broadband regulations to benefit them.  Games and such things as Hulu TV would be put into the top tier and cost you more to access. 

Mon Aug 09 2010 5:19PM Report
Nifa writes:

I read the articles you've mentioned, as well as a few others.  From what I gather reading them, the system doesn't strike me as being all that different from what we have now.

Example: Comcast, Time Warner and Cox (the three companies I have dealt with most recently) all offer tiered packages in which I can, if I so desire, pay more money for better and faster broadband service that gives me a priority over other customers (for example, I rarely lose connection when gaming while my friend who lives in the next building over in the apartment complex and who pays only for the basic broadband package loses connection all the time.  I should note that we use identical equipment in terms of modems, routers, and wireless and that our laptops are identical as well).  I choose to take advantage of these packages because I can afford to do so.

Granted, my choice is my own and may not be a choice that everyone has the option to take advantage of for whatever reason, but the option already exists, as does the option to allow paying customers access to content on the web that non-paying customers cannot access (it's called a subscription and thousands of respected and reputable websites - including and especially MMOs - utilize it without complaint from the masses), so I really do not understand the uproar here.

As for Hulu and other sites, much of what it available on Hulu is available on the networks' own respective sites - that started some time ago. I miss an episode of a show I like, I go to the network's website and watch it there, not on Hulu.

Mon Aug 09 2010 7:59PM Report
Reianor writes:

heh google-shmoogle... it's deeper than that ya know?

With society's current take on morals we're pretty much guaranteed to see business taking priority over people on a regular basis.

Boycott google all you want you may even stop this if you are lucky, but that's just cutting a branch off a bush - as long as the root holds another one will soon sprout.

You have something incomparably bigger to boycott if you really want to make a difference...

Tue Aug 10 2010 11:08PM Report
lordpenquin writes:

Weslubo, you SERIOUSLY want the FCC regulating the internet?!

The government has already sized control of the banks, home loans, student loans, two the three american car companies, the health care system, are working on getting control of our energy, etc.  They are destroying America and the Constitution on a daily basis and you want to give them MORE power?

Wed Aug 11 2010 3:59PM Report
Teala writes:

Lordpenquin, I think you miss understand what people actually want.  We don't want anyone entity in control, not corporations, no Governments - nobody.  Just let if do its own thing as it has done for years.  Its has been working fine without anyone meddling with it.   The last thing we need is more people trying to control our lives.   The Internet is truly the last bastion of freedom on the globe that has no one ruler.   Because of this we have had great gains in the exchange of ideals, opinions and information and that is how it should be.   The Internet is a great tool for which we the human race can reach out to one another to help foster a world community that is capable of learning beyond our own borders.  

Wed Aug 11 2010 4:40PM Report
magestone writes:

Wow.  Thanks for bringing this forward... i`m sure there will be riots all over the world if this happens.  But will the corperations care?  Nope.  Greedy SoB's.

Thu Aug 12 2010 8:55AM Report
Aericyn writes:

Here is the legislative proposal:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35599242

Basically saying net neutrality should not apply to wireless service.

So they are trying to lock down the future when more and more devices never even connect to a "landline". Then what does net neutrality matter since no one uses that form of connection...

Thu Aug 12 2010 9:37AM Report
Smikis writes:

one more reason usa blows.. long live europe why are ppl even using verizon isnt it like crap.. considering every major provider = biggest pile of shit , and smaller ones always provide better sulliution

Thu Aug 12 2010 2:49PM Report
Deathwing980 writes:

So in otherwords... Verizon and google are Shoving their big fat ****'s up our @**'s and laughing long and hard as they take more money out of our already EMPTY Pockets...

 

Grand, what else is new? The world is greedy enough as is... lets not make it worse shall we? Oh wait THEY JUST DID AGAIN!

 

FCC should have kept to its roots and told them to Fuck off or get a giant ass Ban hammer Slammed onto their faces!

 

God... i hate this world sometimes.. and now i will have to pay twice if more three times as much as i do now to go online or EVEN PLAY GAMES!

Fri Aug 13 2010 1:20AM Report
keitholi writes:

I agree with your stance on this issue. A little clarification is in order though.

Net Neutrality means that Internet service providers may not discriminate between different kinds of content and applications online. It guarantees a level playing field for all Web sites and Internet technologies. With Net Neutrality, the network's only job is to move data -- not to choose which data to privilege with higher quality service.

What companies like Google, AT&T, Verizon, Comcast and Time Warner  want to do is start charging companies that do business with them a fee to provide full bandwidth and accessibility to them. And they want to discriminate in favor of their own search engines, Internet phone services and streaming video -- while slowing down or blocking services offered by their competitors!

President Obama is all for net neutrality and tried to get Congress to bring it up last year. In August 2009, Reps. Edward Markey (D-Mass.) and Anna Eshoo (D-Calif.) introduced the Internet Freedom Preservation Act of 2009 (H.R. 3458). This landmark legislation would protect Net Neutrality under the Communications Act, safeguarding the future of the open Internet and protecting Internet users from discrimination online.  This inevitably led to Republican accusations that he was trying to take over the internet and indoctrinate our children and control our minds and (insert rediculous conspiracy theory here)! Considering they did get a lot of tough votes through this year, they decided to shelf it for now and come back to it later on or in the next session. So I would not say he failed to deliver on this one just yet.

Net Neutrality now! Call your Congresspersons and be heard.

Tue Sep 28 2010 2:22PM Report
rejad writes:

@Zyllos

"You know, I am all up for net neutrality. But telling our government to stop them is also an issue. Really, we, the people, need to do something about it."

Dude...representative democracy.  The government IS "of the people."  Granted that will be less so since Citizens United, but still.

Mon Oct 25 2010 2:34PM Report
smut writes:

lordpenquin is so full of misinformation! The government has not "siezed" control of the banks. Nor did they sieze home loans, nor did they seize student loans, nor did they seize car companies nor did they seize healthcare.

Thu Dec 02 2010 2:33PM Report
soccercleats writes:

The government gets more and more control of things. That can be a good thing or it can be a bad thing. I'm afraid one day they might be able to tell us we can't wear say,  Adipure III soccer cleats  http://www.soccercorner.com/Adidas-AdiPURE-III-TRX-FG-Soccer-Cleats-p/sm-adg13383.htm#Adipure-III

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