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Author: Pelagato

Just a game????

Posted by Pelagato Friday December 19 2008 at 12:30AM
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Sup all.. I was wondering something that bothers me...

Everytime I hear someone saying:   Is just a game!   It happens that the person saying it follow the next sentences with ideas like:

1. They dont know a scrap about games:

Did u know those games are created by people and is the job of people.. and they cost millions and in the best cases generates much more millions than their original cost... meaning one thing, THEY MOVE MONEY! thats right... games help the global economy... not to mention that entertainment is a basic need... with out it your mental and emotional stability are going to get screw....

And u say omg is just a game!!!.... next time your door security lock gets broken i will say: Is just a security lock! oh ya.. u will say.. is a lock, my safety, my family, my goods...

Too bad... i dont understand your point.. i kinda dont want to understand it so do you dont want to understand the games one....

2. Despise:

Is just a game is turning like the old "With all due Respect" quote... which only mean Kiss my ass...

They dont care about the games... if we play too much or act to real they say is just a game.. but in the end... those using this quote of is just a game are stuck watching the super bowl.. or the baseball league or NBA... or they are fans or something... or they have some strange hobby...

What are you going to say to a NBA game... Is just a game... as a matter of fact those playing there earn much more cash than the pricks saying the despise phase and have much more fun.. are physically better, have more fun and are more recognize than you!!!...

Is not the same saying OMG there is Michael Jordan, Barack Obama, Scarlett Johanson (i think she is hot), Bill Gates... than saying "Is Just a John Dow" who cares about John Dow.. no one does... so you dont care about the game...

Ask 100 kids on the street where is dad... from the ones that say at work... what can they say.. He is at work... He just have a job.. they dont give a F... about dads job...  and u dont give a F... about kid games.... maybe u do a little but not much...

What if I say "Is just a scultpture, a paint, a song, a movie" what if i say "Is just a Bethoven Simphony" or Picasso Paint" what do you think I am showing... a little brain for culture, education, and Human History, DISPISE is what you will say... you dispise talent, intelligence and good thinking... 

3. Bad parenting:

Example: I told my kids is just a game... dont port the game into RL.. and then forget about the subject with the kids.... and BOOM! their behavior is modified by the game... HELLO!!!!! games are the new modern culture, live with that, dont like it... shoot yourself...

Even leeroy jenkins had a greater impact on modern gaming culture than the "Is just a game!" preacher...  accept the fact that your kids are going to be raised in other times with other ways of life... your so called Just a game is having a greater impact on the world than your doings, unless you are a president of a big country.. and i mean big one like US, an europe nation or russia...   Angola and so on doesnt count...

4. Scared about Arguments:

Those games are violent, they drink, they murder they are sexist they talk about sex and so on...  Loot, Burn, Rape, Kill, Repeat!!! thats a song.. and the motto of that song is a cruel reality your kids should be ready for... you dont want them to play anything violent.. and see any violence.. you want them naive...

DID YOU KNOW!!!! that in nature, naive and weaklings are the first prey... yeah and i mean the human environment... what can be more easily for a sex pervert than a child who doesnt know anything about sex?.... NOTHING!!!!

Are the school and life going to be so utopic like the way you want to teach them with no games... what are you going to do when a teacher in school Draw a knife or something... u cant dont anything at the moment, after that ok, do whatever you want, but it can be too late... 

If you dont want your kids to see violence then move to utopialand... the place in i dunno where it is... otherwise they are going to see violence in school.. the street.. the tv.. even in your home when mom and dad have  a discussion, even curssing and swearing is violence... if you teach a bit of punch and kick, that can be useful later on in their dialy lives, but dont give too much violence dosis or they will explode on you ok....

Other argument I read in a forum was... they teach bad grammar... HELLO!!!! lenguages change... what is saying U alone is the new say of saying YOU! maybe one day we have utube.com if you dont like the change in pop modern culture and gaming one then learn how to speak latin.... that is original... 

Oh what about those that go to war... yeah thats right parent... WHY IN THE HELL!!!!!! u dont let your kid play and then sign up to send them to war when he is 17!!!! Screw that big piece of parenting hipocresy...

5. Fruitless

People love to construct a church, temple, mosque, synagogue to tell everyone that games are pointless, fruitless and they are a waste of time... In general it may sound games are fruitless and pointless but in the end you get entertained, feel better, have some fun with friends or alone... have a laugh and all around that can be beneficial mind

Worthless???? Dont know why... but they have the so famous $100000 dollar nvidia contest in some games, or the user created content... WHY? because this games are worth something and in the end they are art... a way of expression of the human mind, even if is violence... whatever... they are showing what they have inside... that is artistic... even if is mediocrity, it doesnt matter then what u have inside isnt so good but is something... Mozart was art, Goya was art and so on.. and now in this day they are art...

6. Outdated thinking....

HELLO!!!! parents hear me... i know you are quiet older than this new generation... and I have to admit this new generation is a bit screw up... but you cant hope for more because we are living in the worst times of human history but that is other story for other day... THE POINT HERE IS!!!! that you mature people in their 40s 50s... grow up in other times with NO GAMES!!!! NO CELL PHONES!!! NOTHING MODERN AT ALL!!!!!!! so you probably sit down used your maturity and think for a while about this new stuff but you never had them... you never growned up having them... YOU  cant understand how it feel to have this new tecnology in our hands...

Sit down for a minute and think... did your grandpas, our biggrandpas have a car??? they probably never seen a car because they didnt exist at those times... and when cars start appearing and appealing the new generation everyone was scared the hell out of those new machines... and today cars are the rule for moving around...

What about airplanes... if you was born in 1870, 1880 or even 1890 u was somewhat old when Air travel appear... the already adult people didnt like flying that much and i mean adult of 40 and 50... but the new generation was like.. OMG LETS FLY FLY AND FLY HIGHER!!!!! in the end... planes are here to stay...

What about electricity... everyone was making their minds.. like omg.. is dangerous.. they electrucute you... and such, but a 3 year old boy watch the bulb with such tranquility and the 3 year old kid never feard electricity... he learn one thing.. dont put two fingers in each hole of the plug... thats it...

To make this thing short... times are changing, we ( the young) have new games, new entertainment, we live it, love it, feel it.... that is something that unfortunatly for you dad and mom, you never had.... and arent never going to fully understand... I am a dude, and I cant tell you what it feel to give birth to a child... only the theory is what I know... parents know the theory, which isnt enough to understand the whole picture at all...

Saying is just a game!, is a stubborn way of getting behind and outdated... times are changing and the life also does... the phase of our world is moving quick... you better stay updated or the new generations will throw you a retirement castle lol.. same with you young ones.... keep up the phase of humanity or you will be behind in 20 years....

 

 

 

 

 

 

by the way this is a test.... to see if you read all of this, I dont give a sweat about grammar...  if you post a commet about grammar or even the word grammar appear in the comment I can give you the warranty that it will be deleted...!!!!

ElRenmazuo writes:

Who cares this is just a blog.

Fri Dec 19 2008 12:42AM Report
Zorlofe writes:

Lol, you sure do a lot of bashing on people that are older than you. I hope you don't really think everyone that is a parent is completely uncapable of understanding culture, entertainment  etc. For the record I have two kids, both of which have their own PC's albeit carefuly monitored but play games with me and my wife all the time. Speaking of church, I founded a gaming community right out of my church 5 years ago that's still going and have hosted LAN's that had attendee's from all over. Be careful about being so judgemental about an entire generation of people. Most people I know that use the phrase "it's just a game" use it because of the way people get bent out of shape over something little. You're going to age too and if you are already getting irate over something little in a game than you may not live very long. Stess kills and if you get that stressed over a game your in for a world of hurt.

Btw, thanks for the advice I'll make sure to remember that as my daughter opens up her game time card for Christmas because apparantly all parents are jerks.

Fri Dec 19 2008 1:42AM Report
Korhindi writes:

As one of the older generation, I find I agree with the OP.  If you read through the whole blog and don't judge; he makes some excellent points.  The OP may be a bit harsh in parts of the blog, but I can see where Pelu is coming from.

The blog's accuracy on some points are a bit off, my Great Grandpa had a car, for instance, but his message on the impact of gaming on society and our hobby's contribution to culture and art is very valid.

Btw, I don't judge on grammar, only on content and I must say, very good points.... points some of us raised 30 years ago about music, Sci-fi movies, comics, arcade games, fantasy art, and PnP RPGs... all the things the "older generations" decried as evil, or at best, a complete waste of time.

I hear you Pelu.

Fri Dec 19 2008 2:05AM Report
stayontarget writes:

yes they make alot of money some times, but Its just a game for people like you and me. No reason to get all fired up over Just a game !!

Fri Dec 19 2008 4:01AM Report
just1opinion writes:

LOL @ DaX.9. :)  Oh and to the blog poster....I'M a parent.  My "children" are all grown now.  They are 18, 19 and 21.  THEY learned to play video games from ME, their mom.  I've been playing since the days of PONG and Atari.  So while I understand your "teenage angst," you need to realize that if it wasn't for people MY age that STARTED the "gaming industry," you little tykes would have no games to PLAY.  I am still an active gamer, as a matter of fact, and of the three children I have....only ONE is very crazy about games.  The other two chose different hobbies.  And yes....they are ALL "just hobbies" and "just games."  Playing them, while having some benefits and being fun, does NOT count as community service or political activism, social entrepreneurism, or anything ELSE that "vital" to society, any more than playing golf does.  Games are meant for recreation first and foremost.  The "good" things we glean from them don't really qualify for exalting them to some lofty status of nobility.  Please.  LOL

Fri Dec 19 2008 9:15AM Report
Pelagato writes:

looks like the other boxing kitty post something here.. lol...

Fri Dec 19 2008 6:40PM Report
daltanious writes:

Well, I belong myself to parents world (45) :-) but I agree nearly on everything (if not all) you have said. For children (new) game is as much important as is (new) car for dad, (new) kitchen appliances for mum ..... etc. But interestingly, parents usually does not get it. As computer programmer a lot of times friends ask me for help for their kid to check about problems with computer saying »when you have time, nothing important, it is just for games....«. And I always try to explain that it may not be important for THEM, but for sure it is for kids. Her new washing machine or cooking appliance is i.e. like PS3 for kid. Etc. Or dumb and short minded answer to son's »would like to go to fitness« with reply »I can arrange you enough fitness around house« ... etc etc. With this kind of parents is completely logical why their kids do not goes well along with them. And it is problem with parents, not kids.

However I agree if only one computer in house is also used for job, that takes precedence (when really matters), because no job ... no money ... no games. :-) And also education is very important.

Games (speaking also from my personal experience) are very fun, many times can be also very educative (and many times not) .... So they can be very important. Remember, toy for kid is like job for adult.

Problem is when something (not only gaming) becomes addiction and interferes with daily activities or with life in negative way. I.e. if somebody only plays and does not take care also for health, enough moving, neglect school.... etc... In time becomes problem. But same can be said for nearly any activity of kids or adults.

About U and You ... I agree that world around as is changing. But you should also not forget that if you really want your »target« gets the »message«, it should be able to read it. Otherwise is waste of time and in this case could be considered your mistake. So about this argument about writing, I prefer to be as concise as possible and using »normal« grammar, so anyone (any1 :-)) can understand.

As for violence in games ... has never been proved that »creates« murderers, bullies ... Far from this. Like bloody movies does not create serial killers ... but as somebody said ... can make them more creative.:-)

And as you said ... parents that are »horrified« by »violence« in games and think they are bad for mental health of their children ...should in first place prevent their kids to watch any daily news. And we should see them protesting against war, for human rights ... etc. But do they? Of course not, because majority uses very often double morale standards.

However being animal lover (and I admit hunter hater) I never liked quests to kill animals (even those with their names in »red«) ... but killing that rabid bear or stag will for sure not translate in real life. But I must admit that I actually enjoy a lot D.E.H.T.A in Lich King:-). All my alts with appropriate level did all their quests I must say with kind of great pleasure.:-) And I never liked (and for this reason never played) games where you must become i.e. mafia boss. So I choose in every game always »good guys« side. But that is just me.

Btw, about »I admit this new generation is a bit screw up” … do not worry. EVERY new generation since eons has been a bit “screwed up”. But ok, who is (very) young … has right to learn. But what real tragedy is, that to many times ADULTS are so much “screwed up”.

Mon Dec 22 2008 7:38AM Report
Pelagato writes:

omg... wish i could post that commet too in the blog pre mar

Tue Dec 23 2008 11:28PM Report

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