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Author: Paragus1

AoC Server Merges - When Worlds Collide

Posted by Paragus1 Thursday December 4 2008 at 11:01AM
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AoC Server Merges - When Worlds Collide

When it comes to MMOs, it is the nature of the beast that a strong population is critical to the survival of a game. So what happens when the massively multiplayer turns out to be not so massive? Developers often have to make the hard decision and start offering transfers, which ultimately gets followed up with server merges.

There is no denying that Funcom's Age of Conan has had a rough going during the course of the 6 months it has been released. Funcom and their stockholders watched with horror as roughly half of their subscribers jumped ship in the first 90 days. Now after server transfers, Funcom has now entered the server merging phase to help sure up the population levels for their remaining players. Controversy is starting to brew regarding their decision to merge 2 servers of different rule-sets, the normal PvP server "Bloodspire" and an RP-PvP (Role Playing) server "Hyperborea" are about to collide into what looks to be a very interesting situation.

Now I'll be the first to admit that I have never played on an RP server in any of the MMORPG's I have played, but I do respect the option to have that playstyle choice. Now I will also be the first to admit that I have played on non-RP PvP servers in Age of Conan, and I have witnessed first hand the "culture" of these servers. It could be that some on these servers are role-playing as a mentally-unstable sociopathic teenager, but one has to wonder how the role-players will react to their new friends.

So what happens now? To the best of my knowledge, I can't recall seeing a situation like this in an MMO and we can't blame Funcom for trying foster a healthy environment for the players in terms of population. What is about to unfold will be a very interesting social experiment. I decided to take a look at some of the server forums to see the reaction from the communities, and so far it looks like a mixed bag. I don't believe that both cultures will be able to survive personally, so the question will be to see who folds.

One possible scenario is that the non-RP types might be willing to give role-playing a shot, although I suspect that this is probably not going to be the case. The other scenario could be that this officially ends the culture of role-playing in this community, and the disgruntled RP crowd tries to proceed to the nearest exit by seeking a transfer or opting out all together. Funcom has made their choice and now it is up to the players of these servers to make their own. Let's see if the players be willing to give up the RP in RPG for the MM in MMO.  I am interested to hear player's predictions on how you think this will play out.

Paragus

Co-leader of Inquisition

www.inqguild.com

Balkin31 writes:

I really dont see the big deal they are merging servers and offering a free move to another server when all is said and done. So it seems to me that all players need to do is show some patience and then move to your server of choice when the dust settles...

Thu Dec 04 2008 11:23AM Report
Cosytus writes:

I almost wish I still played this game on one of those servers just to witness this all unfold in person. It's gonna be beautiful like watching an explosion in super slo-mo.

 

And to dude above: If you're not seeing a big deal you either have no xp with the general AoC pop, or with RPer's, or just never played this game at all.

Thu Dec 04 2008 12:17PM Report
Balkin31 writes:

As I said before, all they have to do is show some patience through the transition and all will be good... Yes I played AOC on PVP server, and yes I know the RP community is rabid....

Thu Dec 04 2008 12:24PM Report
EATtheDEAD writes:

i hope theres some people commiting suicide

Thu Dec 04 2008 12:54PM Report
fuxake writes:

I just like the 'role-playing as a mentally-unstable sociopathic teenager' image lol.  It sums up almost all MMO's I've ever played.  No doubt AoC is going to go on for a while, but I doubt it's going to stay afloat for much longer as it's not worth playing really, is it now?

Thu Dec 04 2008 1:10PM Report
Mrbloodworth writes:

This is a non-issue.

Thu Dec 04 2008 1:14PM Report
Paragus1 writes:

It may be a non-issue depending on where you are, but if you look at their forums this is a heated topic of debate in their community.    There is a 50+ page thread going over there with a lot of people expressing negativity.  I'm not interested at taking shots at Funcom, they obviously had to do something.   I am more interested in the effect this will have on the culture on these servers since one community type is known for being friedly, while the other can be quite harsh.

Thu Dec 04 2008 2:01PM Report
skydragonren writes:

This is exactly what is going to happen and you can take this to the bank....

Step 1 - RPer's will be met by their immature counterparts with numerous "LMAO u r teh suk noob I pwned ur face lolz suck it."

Step 2 - RPer's will try to force themselves into "colonies" scattered through the land in an attempt to distance themselves from the bullshit that is normal ruleset.

Step 3 - Normal PvP players will then take this opportunity to brag about how they drove the thous to their doom and have them cowering in the hills.

Step 4 - RP will form an alliance to try and stand up and push back the normal pvp kids in one final stand to see who which ruleset will come out dominate on the server.

Step 5 - Since Normal PvP players do not uphold a standard on any morals of PvP combat they will beat the shit out of the RPer's followed by many more "LOL these guyz r teh suk they can't stand up to the 1337!"

Step 6 - RPer's will exile the server in mass effect either quitting AOC all together or quitting their current characters to move somewhere not so 1 3 3 7.

I think personally they will all just quit. You can't force a normal ruleset crowd to start using rp speak, it will never happen in a million years, therefore you have essentially destroyed an entire servers way of life by forcing a RP crowd to play in a normal world.

Thu Dec 04 2008 2:09PM Report
neonwire writes:

Oh dear my heart bleeds for the roleplayers. While they are typing pretend conversations that have got nothing to do with playing the game a nasty evil PKer who is busy playing the game as it has been designed to be played will come along and kill them and get rewarded some nice exp while they do it. Oh the horror of it all! How dare they do what the game practically tells them to do and kill the RPer on a PvP server! How outrageous!

Easy solution. Dont go on a PvP server or go and type pretend conversations in a yahoo chat group. No-one will disturb you there.

When will the RPers learn that mmos currently just dont cater to real roleplaying (sigh)

Thu Dec 04 2008 2:33PM Report
skydragonren writes:

See paragus, neonwire just confirmed exactly what I said was gonna happen.

Because he does not understand the Roleplay, the way of Roleplaying or the ruleset that a Roleplay server demands, they will be met with hostility just like this guys has proven.

Thu Dec 04 2008 2:44PM Report
demonic87 writes:

MMORPG= MASSIVLY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME.

Thu Dec 04 2008 3:49PM Report
Gravarg writes:

I've always played on a RP server if it's available in any game I've played (they aren't called mmoRPg for nothing!).  I feel sorry for my fellow RPers in AoC.  I left after they announced this.  I played on the aformentioned RP server, and it was rather unpopulated, but to merge it with a PvP server is just insanely dumb.  I want nothing to do with the 13 year old kids that think they're awesome because they can kill someone from behind while they're fighting 5 mobs...I could transfer to another server, but I fear soon enough my time there will be limited by another merger.  If Funcom's done it once, there's nothing to stop them from doing it again.

Thu Dec 04 2008 5:01PM Report
Letsinod writes:

"So what happens now? To the best of my knowledge, I can't recall seeing a situation like this in an MMO and we can't blame Funcom for trying foster a healthy environment for the players in terms of population"

 

Umm...see Vanguard please.  Same thing happened

Thu Dec 04 2008 11:53PM Report
craynlon writes:

 i think people have to stop victimizing us roleplayers

for me as rper in the harsh world of conan its accepting that there are murderers and thugs out there. for me the difference between the 2 servers is not the make believe conversations about beutifull flowers but the difference in saying "ill bath in your blood son of a pig" and "wth ill pwn u fragface".

so basicly there are 3 choices:
-go to a rp-pve server if non combat rping is what ur looking for
-go stay, continue to pvp in character (rp) on the pvp server
-go to another rp-pvp server if there is one

also in theory there should be no 13 year old kids on any server since the game is 18+ and age doesnt always translate to maturity of gameplay or manners

 

Fri Dec 05 2008 1:17AM Report
Loke666 writes:

Who cares. You get a free transfer anyways after all servers are merged.

Another question is off course which server that is biggest, most of the ones from the smaller will probably transfer.

Fri Dec 05 2008 7:14AM Report
slask777 writes:

Oh look, it's Barrens Chat™. This is the new breed of mmoplayers. Some fantasy-ghost in the sky have mercy upon us all oO

Fri Dec 05 2008 7:24AM Report
slask777 writes:

Seriously, this is a dickmove. Mixing the 'aim, shoot, teabag' crowd with the rp crowd is a bad idea.

Fri Dec 05 2008 7:26AM Report
Deewe writes:

What would be funny is most of the RP-PvPers get organized and pawn all L33t "hard-core PvPers".

Because contrary to most normal PvPers, the social ones know when to stick together and forget old blood feuds.

I would resub only to go on this merged server and walk around a 12+ squad of RPers cleaning the server.

You speak bad you don't RP => your name ends on the black list and you are dead on sight for any RP group ;)

Man that would be something.

Fri Dec 05 2008 7:49AM Report
Paragus1 writes:

Definitely would be interesting Deewe.  Imagine if the RP crowd not only stood their ground, but decided to travel in a large band purifying all leet speak spewing idiots.  I am not an RP guy myself, but I think you guys should go down swinging and try to take as many of them down as you can.

Fri Dec 05 2008 7:53AM Report
streea writes:

Have to agree that most of the RPers will just leave. You can't force non-RPers to RP, and vice versa. And why should they? They joined a server that was dedicated to what they wanted to do, and now it's going to change for one group or the other.

Fri Dec 05 2008 12:12PM Report
Kisstia writes:

Yet again it is an rp community that is tossed to the wind.  I can deal with being a minority on a server (because rp'ers always seem to end up the minority on "roleplay preferred" servers) it is the fact that there is always a group out to make those that do rp totally miserable when they are out in the lands actually rp-ing. 

If AoC were well established (i.e. An established gaming history with an established "feel" to the game and easily "findable" rp communities within the given server population) I might be interested in fighting through the portion of the non-rp community that seems hellbent on making rp'ers miserable because they get some "joy" out of doing so. I have done so in the past with several other games. But, being still rather "new" to AoC I just don't want to do it again.

AoC, for me, has other issues that when coupled with this "merger" of two worlds led me to the one decision that was viable for me and my gaming dollar: cancelling the account. It is one thing to stick with a game through server mergers when you have your friends on that server well established, quite the other to try to work through all of that while still trying to get your feet under you within an online community.

It's the age old way of things: AoC is a game. We play games to have fun. When it ceases to be fun we do not play them and we definitely don't pay good money to play something that ceases to be fun. I only wish I had cancelled before recently having paid for a three month subscription ... hee! :)

Fri Dec 05 2008 3:31PM Report
Paragus1 writes:

I hear you Kisstia.   I think you guys have the right to play the game the way you wanted, and have that precondition yanked this far in is understandably troubling to the RP community.   A good rule of thumb I think is never buy one of those multi-month subscription packages as your first billing cycle, because too many games now a days find themselves on bad footing quickly after release.

Fri Dec 05 2008 5:18PM Report
imbant writes:

Never played AoC, never going to as im waiting for Darkfall but i will say....

That image of the hate tells were amazing and sad at the same time.  Keep up the good work, i wish i could be in a pvp game right now mixing it up with carebears.

Sat Dec 06 2008 2:18AM Report
DaX.9 writes:

Age of Conan is going to die cause of this.

Sat Dec 06 2008 12:57PM Report
greekgeek writes:

Things missing from the article,

1. There the 2 and only oceanic servers, which has been the reason stated over and over again. The do not plan on merging any other diffrent rule set servers.

2. The game has not ofered transfers before as you state, everyone gets 1 free transfer per character after the merges are complete.

Sat Dec 06 2008 2:54PM Report
Funbuns writes:

This won't even touch AoC subs, the people left playing it are hardcore number #1.

2. I played on Hyperboria and there was a 12 year old Guardian at every corner  looking to one shot you, ( back when I played). So getting ganked is nothing new. People seem to forget that it's a rp-"PVP" server.

3. If for whatever reason people don't like it, they can always use their free xffer.

Sun Feb 22 2009 11:51PM Report

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